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Bomb Threats Via Twitter Partly Shut Down Atlanta's Hartsfield Airport

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that "Credible" bomb threats were made Saturday against two flights bound for Atlanta, an airport spokesman said. The flights landed safely after being escorted into Atlanta by military fighter jets. Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport spokesman Reese McCrainie told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution at 3 p.m. that both flights — Delta 1156 and Southwest 2492 — had landed and were sitting on a taxiway waiting to be swept by the Atlanta police Bomb Squad. ... Witnesses reported seeing multiple emergency vehicles on the tarmac, and the Federal Aviation Administration said just before 3 p.m. that departing flights were experiencing gate holds and delays of up to 30 minutes due to a bomb threat. USA Today says that the flights were on their way to Atlanta from, respectively, Portland, Oregon and Milwaukee, and adds that "NORAD Media Relations Specialist Preston Schlachter confirmed that two F-16 jets launched from McIntire Air Force Base in South Carolina as a precautionary measure."

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  1. Prudient action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But this kind of thing could have us chasing our tails.

    1. Re: Prudient action by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      It's a good thing Americans don't have tails or they'd usually be seen with them tucked between their legs, anytime air security is involved.

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  2. Re:Credible? by Slashjones · · Score: 5, Funny

    If there's even a 0.0000000001% chance that something is a credible threat, you can't take any chances. That's why you never see anyone get in a car; it's too dangerous.

  3. Other than the obligatory security theatre... by rnturn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... just what would the fighter escort hope to accomplish? Are we really ready to order fighter pilots to shoot down airliners over a phoned-in threat? I guess all it'll take now to spook passengers and completely disrupt air travel in the U.S. is a few bozos with bunch of pre-paid or stolen cellphones.

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    1. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      ... just what would the fighter escort hope to accomplish?

      About the only thing I can think of would be to escort the plane along it's new route.

      I assume that the plane was rerouted on a pretty much direct route from where they were to Atlanta. They'd want to make sure that the airplane stayed over relatively unpopulated areas in the event of an explosion.

    2. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Aside from the few hundred lives vs. a few thousand lives if the plane was actually hijacked and attempted another 9/11 style crash into a metropolitan area there is another reason you might want a chase aircraft - obtaining camera footage of the plane should the threat prove genuine and the plane is blown up. I would imagine such data might prove quite useful to the resultant investigation in terms of narrowing down where the bomb was located, how powerful it was, whether it was carried on or checked, and potentially even narrow down who might have got the bomb onboard.

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    3. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by gweihir · · Score: 3

      The first thing is bogus. Nobody competent enough to hijack a plane for this purpose will be stupid enough to advertise their intention. The existence of fighter planes is not really a secret.

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    4. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And to give the appearance of "doing something" in a situation where realistically, nothing can be done. It is very important for governments to always give the appearance to be in control and that they know what they are doing, even when any halfway smart person knows neither is true most of the time.

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    5. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

      Jets are scrambled to provide 'eyes on'. Whatever happens, there is a couple pairs of eyes, and probably cameras, to see exactly what happens.
      And if things really go pear shaped...shoot it down.

      What else would you put up there to see what is happening?

    6. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by kylemonger · · Score: 2

      Yes, I really do think they would shoot it down. If the plane strays then it means the pilot is either not in control or not obeying instructions from the air traffic control. Either one of those conditions will tighten enough sphincters on the ground that the kill order will be given if they fail to repsond to enough radio hails. They scrambled a couple of fighters to deal with a float plane in restricted airspace back in 2010. I'd heard military jets howling overhead many times, but I'd never heard a sonic boom (except on TV) before that day. http://www.komonews.com/news/l...

    7. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Depends on the situation.

      F-16: "Flight 17, you are off course. Come to heading 271."
      Jet: "Oops. Sorry. A little stressed up here."

      On the other hand...

      F-16: "Flight 17, you are off course. Come to heading 271."
      Jet: "Kiss my ass, yankee imperialist swine! We're blowin' up Tallahassee!"

      will probably get you shot down.

    8. Re:Other than the obligatory security theatre... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      "Kiss my ass, yankee imperialist swine! We're blowin' up Tallahassee!"

      will probably get you shot down.

      Most Yankees would consider blowing up Tallahassee to be a good thing.

  4. Re:Credible? by Livius · · Score: 2

    Someone saying something on the Internet is now somehow "credible?"

    It worked, didn't it?

  5. its worth remembering that terrorism is effective. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Terrorism in its general form is designed to undermine the state through fear. Its designed to paralyze, and restrict an otherwise free society through random small, infrequent acts of highly publicized violence and mayhem. It works because it exploits guerrilla tactics, something which no government can ever formally protect anyone against.

    the solution to the US terror problem seems simple. stop treating third world countries like they're children. quit overthrowing elected leaders and installing dictators, stop propping up nation states with a history of violence, and start treating the people who live in these regions as more than "hearts and minds" that you have to "win." Understand and respect cultural differences, drop the 'world-police' shit and start realizing that just because you've moved on from $x war does not in fact mean the people living in that nation have forgiven or forgotten what you did. And if theyre living under one of your dismissive regimes, theyre likely to form their own regional extremist government predicated on the polar opposite of what they endured. For bonus points, knock off the axis of evil shit.

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  6. What is credible in this context? by Threni · · Score: 2

    They spelt "bomb" correctly?

    1. Re:What is credible in this context? by Livius · · Score: 2

      A 'credible' real threat is not a threat to public safety, it's a threat can persuade gullible journalists that the public needs to be afraid in spite of the absence of actual threats to public safety..

  7. Re:we don't do credible here by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    Yeah. If you make threats on Slashdot you get picked up by men in white coats instead of black helicopters.

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  8. Re:its worth remembering that terrorism is effecti by gweihir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is a losing strategy for the US administration. A population in fear is a great thing from an incompetent government (as they all are): People in fear are not rational anymore and look to somebody "strong" to "protect" them. If they actually where effective against terrorism (impossible), drugs (impossible), etc. they might be facing uncomfortable questions about real problems. This way, they can pretend there is some kind of state of war and everybody needs to support them.

    This strategy if "governing" is really old and was perfected in the 3rd Reich. Of course it makes a country far more vulnerable to internal and external threats and hence is completely and utterly morally corrupt.

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  9. After flying Delta nearly every week for two years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    my money is on a disgrunted passenger. Their employees are so angry and hateful that by the end of the flight, you want to bomb them. I just love six hours flights without even a snack. I've gotten free upgrades to first class a few times with my miles, and I think if I had just stomped someone's puppy to death in front of them they would have been less hostle than the last flight attendant I had in first class. Two flights before that there was vomit on the seat and the seat back in front of me that wasn't cleaned-up. I couldn't change seats because the flight was full, and I had to argue to get napkins. Fortunately a new mother near me had some wetwipes she let me have.

  10. That makes sense! by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    Bringing a fighter jet to a bomb threat. That makes sense!

  11. Credible, Really??? by Chris453 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TFA states that the guy posted to a twitter account stating that he put a bomb on a plane in Portland, and then posted again saying he placed one on a plane in Milwaukee. How the hell is that credible? He can be in two places at once? That didn't raise any flags about it being bogus? Airport spokesman Reese McCranie said "We believe the threats to be credible". Wow, just wow.

    1. Re:Credible, Really??? by Jeremi · · Score: 2

      Would you want to be the guy who ignored the bomb threat, after a plane (or two) blew up?

      Put it this way: following procedure (when it later turned out it wasn't actually necessary to do so) won't end your career. Failing to follow procedure (when the threat turned out to be valid) almost certainly will. "But the bomb threat didn't really make sense, because (reasons)" will probably not be seen as a valid defense.

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    2. Re:Credible, Really??? by Chris453 · · Score: 2

      I think common sense should prevail in situations like this. Some random twitter loser says he put bombs on two separate planes at the same time in different parts of the country? Not remotely credible. Are we going to shut down every airport in the country because he claims to have hidden a bomb "somewhere" in an airport? You get a random threat and you start looking more critically, but you don't shut down the runway for hours on end and detain hundreds of people (which is exactly what they did since the people on the planes were kept there for hours after they should have disembarked).

      I agree that the guy was basically covering his ass, but he should be fired for being such a gullible idiot.

    3. Re:Credible, Really??? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Funny

      He can be in two places at once?

      When he's not anywhere at all?

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    4. Re:Credible, Really??? by Jeremi · · Score: 2

      Some random twitter loser says he put bombs on two separate planes at the same time in different parts of the country? Not remotely credible.

      It is quite possible, if he had an accomplice.

      I agree that the guy was basically covering his ass, but he should be fired for being such a gullible idiot.

      If he was correctly following the procedures that were set up, it's hard to justify firing him because the procedures aren't to your liking. A more rational response would be to change the procedures.

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  12. Re:What is there on a fighter that could help? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    What is there on a fighter jet that could possibly help?

    Eyeballs, and a brain.

  13. Re:After flying Delta nearly every week for two ye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This might have been harassment targeting one of the passengers.

    That Finnish kid in lizardsquad grounded a plan with a Sony executive by making a false bomb threat.

  14. Re:Credible? by Your.Master · · Score: 2

    What does the medium of the threat have to do with its credibility?

  15. Update; No Bombs Found on Plane by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
    Law enforcement officials found no bombs on two planes at Atlanta's main airport after authorities received what they considered credible threats, FBI spokesman Stephen Emmett said.

    The threats were originally posted to Twitter by @kingZortic. At about 3:51 p.m. the account, which had earlier challenged the FBI, CIA and NSA, posted an address on the 4500 block of West Schubert Avenue in Chicago and issued another challenge to "come get me I got guns, COME AT ME."

    Chicago Police went to the address listed on social media and determined that the person behind the threats did not actually reside at that address, said News Affairs Officer Bari Lemmon. Police did not find any weapons and did not arrest or detain anyone, Lemmon said.

    The threats targeted Southwest Airlines Flight 2492, which arrived at Atlanta from Milwaukee, and Delta Air Lines Flight 1156, which arrived from Portland, Oregon, said Reese McCranie, a spokesman for Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. Both planes landed safely.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/...

    1. Re:Update; No Bombs Found on Plane by ShaunC · · Score: 4, Funny

      So he made bomb threats and swatted someone? Fucktard trifecta is in play.

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  16. Yup by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    If they think the threat is designed to secure passenger/crew compliance for another 9/11 style attack, yeah, I think they would shoot down a civilian aircraft if it didn't respond to their orders. Of course, passengers and crew these days expect any such threat to result in another 9/11 style attack and have proven repeatedly that they will beat the shit out of and quite possibly kill anyone trying to pull shit on their airplane. So the fighter jet is still just multi-million-dollar dick waving. It's probably more to let terrorist organizations know that we will shoot a plane down if we have to, rather than because we expect that we'd actually have to.

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