Police Stations Increasingly Offer Safe Haven For Craigslist Transactions

HughPickens.com writes: Lily Hay Newman reports at Future Tense that the police department in Columbia, Missouri recently announced its lobby will be open 24/7 for people making Craigslist transactions or any type of exchange facilitated by Internet services. This follows a trend begun by police stations in Virginia Beach, East Chicago and Boca Raton. Internet listings like Craigslist are, of course, a quick and convenient way to buy, sell, barter, and generally deal with junk. But tales of Craigslist-related assaults, robberies, and murders where victims are lured to locations with the promise of a sale, aren't uncommon. Also, an item being sold could be broken or fake, and the money being used to buy it could be counterfeit.

"Transactions should not be conducted in secluded parking lots, behind a building, in a dark location especially when you're dealing with strangers. Someone you've never met before – you have no idea what their intentions are – whether they have evil intent or the best of intentions," says Officer James Cason Jr. With surveillance cameras running 24 hours a day, plus the obvious bonus of a constant police presence, meeting in the lobby of the police department can help weed out people trying to rip others off. "People with stolen items may not want to meet at the police department," says Bryana Maupin.

Comments

How is this not good for citizens?

[Anonymous Coward]

If I'm the one buying, I ask the other dude to meet me at the police station to complete the sale. Three reasons:

1) Minimizes the chances I'll be raped, murdered, robbed, or otherwise harmed.
2) Maximizes the chances that the goods are not stolen, counterfeit, or in some way defective.
3) People with outstanding warrants or otherwise sketchy pasts will not want to meet there, and of course I don't want to do business with them because of the risks of 1 and 2, but also because I don't want to support, for instance, a drug dealer.

Of course the police benefit from having one or two absolute morons come in and sell drugs or something like that, but the public benefits hugely from this as well.

Craigslist Killers

[Peachy]

Great idea. Working through my backlog of WIRED magazines and was only reading about the bizarre case of the Craiglist Killers last night.

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazin...

Re:So what's the real story here?

[dissy]

If the seller doesn't agree to meet at the stationhouse, isn't that a person the police should be investigating?

I certainly hope not!

Before seeing this article, I personally would have assumed meeting at the station house would put ourselves in the way of police officers with other important things to do, perhaps even things like saving lives, for what basically boils down to a simple craigslist purchase.

If someone else would have suggested it I would certainly be offering up other safe options to go with first, only choosing this one if literally no other options were available to not meet alone, and even then I would still feel bad for being in the way.

Now sure if I was to shoot down ALL suggestions for safe meetings, then that would and probably should be seen as shady as hell. But offering tried and true alternatives first is not something I feel should earn deeper investigation by the police or any other government agency.

"Do you have a friend or three that can come along? How about we meet at the Cinibun in blahblah mall? Or anywhere else closer to you that's in public and has a lot of people and cameras around? The police probably have lives to save and stuff, would you at least three-way call them first and ask if it's OK?"

Personally I see offering multiple ways to help reassure the other party, while also having my only one request for similar reassurance being denied, as the questionable act. Still not "investigated by the police or feds" level of questionable of course, but enough to raise my "I don't want to deal with an overly demanding buyer" counter, especially if there are other buyers in line.

Sold my car on Craigslist

[gatkinso]

Had the buyer meet me in the lobby of my bank, transaction was in cash. Called my insurance agency before the guy test drove the car and had him leave the money with me. When the deal was done I deposited the cash, sent a CYA email to the insurance agency cancelling as of that time and date, went out, pulled the tags, tossed the dude the keys. Sketchily, he whipped out some Delaware tags (we were not in Delaware and he said he was from a different state but this was not my problem) and drove away. Seemed like a pretty safe way to do business.

Re:So what's the real story here?

[lgw]

First, their job is to make life safer for everyone and to prevent crime. They do that.

WTF? Someone actually believes this? *boggle*

I used to deliver pizza for a living. Sometimes you get mugged. Once as I returned to the store, battered and bleeding, there was a cop right there in the store, getting some free pizza.

He seemed annoyed that we interrupted his free-pizza-getting by asking him to at least write an incident report. He outright rejected the notion that the police should make the area safer, and instead chastised us for doing business in such a dangerous neighborhood. He also wrote me a ticket for something about my car. Presumably the only reason he didn't shake me down for the money I had on me was that someone else had already stole that.

0 interest in policing. 0 interest in making things safer. 0 interest in preventing crime in any way that required effort on his part. They don't do that. They take your money and extort businesses for free stuff. That's what the police do.