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Facebook Will Soon Be Able To ID You In Any Photo

sciencehabit writes Appear in a photo taken at a protest march, a gay bar, or an abortion clinic, and your friends might recognize you. But a machine probably won't — at least for now. Unless a computer has been tasked to look for you, has trained on dozens of photos of your face, and has high-quality images to examine, your anonymity is safe. Nor is it yet possible for a computer to scour the Internet and find you in random, uncaptioned photos. But within the walled garden of Facebook, which contains by far the largest collection of personal photographs in the world, the technology for doing all that is beginning to blossom.

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  1. I don't think this is really true. by eexaa · · Score: 2

    Postgrad students at our faculty were developing face-recognition stuff that can easily and percisely tag almost all photos we were able to stuff in it. In microseconds. I guess it would be really weird if facebook didn't have this technology available long time ago (it isn't really that hard either).

    1. Re:I don't think this is really true. by Brulath · · Score: 2

      Were these rather generous photographs or partially obscured faces wearing hats in a crowd? Was the database of potential people in the billions? Identifying the subject of a selfie at your university might not be the most difficult task, but identifying everyone in an arbitrary crowd is going to be a lot more involved. The process could probably benefit from being able to map relationships to narrow partial matches down, hence Facebook.

    2. Re:I don't think this is really true. by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've got facial recognition software running on my netbook. It really is not that difficult to get hold of some very sophisticated shit. It even has the capability of reducing any face to a photofit string.

      If you're thinking "Bullshit!", let me throw some titles past you that a: I use for facial recognition features and b: I consider worth mentioning because they actually work (for some metric of "work" which for me is "enough to differentiate between 60 million individuals").

      Windows Live Photo Gallery
      Google Picasa
      DigiKam
      Adobe Photoshop Elements
      Sony Picture Motion Browser
      AmCap
      IrfanView
      OpenCV
      EvoFIT
      E-FIT
      Faces LE (Law Enforcement edition)

      (those last three are compositors, I do use them to reduce found faces to photofit strings - they're much easier to index that way).

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  2. Re:Good think I don't use Facebook by siddesu · · Score: 2

    Even if you don't use it, they probably have your shadow account, managed by the very same kind of machine learning algorithms that automatically tag your pictures, even when you choose 'do not tag'. http://www.digitaltrends.com/s...

  3. Show me my doppelgangers! by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like to be able to ask Facebook:

    "Out of all the hundreds of millions of Facebook users, which ones look the most like me?"

    Wouldn't that be cool?

    1. Re:Show me my doppelgangers! by pz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd like to be able to ask Facebook:

      "Out of all the hundreds of millions of Facebook users, which ones look the most like me?"

      I'd rather ask, out of all those people which ones look like Mark Zuckerberg enough to pass for him at the corporate headquarters? Just to make a point.

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  4. soon? by sahuxley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, that mean the NSA has been able to do this for a decade or so?

  5. Re:What's the problem? by Sir_Substance · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, I didn't.

    Other people have been uploading and tagging me whether I like it or not, despite my not having an account.

    So fuck you it's not been my decision, but I'll be copping the consequences. If I could burn down every data center facebook owned I'd do it in a second, no hesitation.

  6. Re:Good think I don't use Facebook by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's no "probably" about it.

    And that shadow account garbage was why I quit Facebook, for all the good it does. I have no illusions that they have any less of my data now than they did when I was a member... but at least I'm one fewer set of eyes to count as an impression on their auto-playing video ads.

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  7. Re:What's the problem? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No problem. You see that nice girl in the street, take pic and immediately FB gives you her address and phone number. Cool. The next day you step on the foot of this unsympathetic guy in the train. He takes a pic of you and during the week-end your house is burned to the ground. Everybody knows everyone, that's great!

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  8. Re:Like increasingly often, the real question begs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The possibility is neat technologically, but do we want to put up with the consequences?

    There. I fixed it for you.

    The possibility is neat technologically, but do *they* care about the consequences when can get a profit?

  9. Cross-Dressers are people, too by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a suggestion you may not have considered.

    Your "secret" life? Don't post it to social media.

    So because someone is socially different they have to forego socializing and connecting with others?

    One good thing about the internet is that it allows people to be who they really want to be - by actions, words, and accomplishments - without it threatening their personal welfare. One bad thing about the internet is that it allows many people to put undue pressure on the few who stand out.

    If Facebook bridges that gap, so that our anonymous personae are always connected to our real selves, then we all become subject to enormous societal pressure. It'll be the equivalent of the "old boys club" everywhere and in everything we do. You mist be the right type, have the right behaviour or you won't succeed.

    It will be impossible for (for example) a secret cross-dresser to hold down a job. I know lots of people in the scene who would absolutely be fired if their employers found out, and they take great pains to keep their private lives separate from their public ones. I know people who play LARP who are in the same boat; for example, a Connecticut supreme court judge and at least 2 policemen.

    One only needs to go back 30 years (some of us can actually do that) and note how society dealt with homosexuals, non-violent deviancy, even communism and long hair. Even further back was how we (the US) dealt with the Japanese, although Islamics are probably in that position right now. If someone wanted to be heard without being identified as Islamic, shouldn't they be allowed to do that?

    On the flip side, is it possible to create a program that replaces faces in images with other faces? If such a program existed, and if there was enough interest we might create a movement to make facial recognition unreliable. Sort of like how "AdBlock" extensions fought against advertizing, we could have a Facebook app that grabs random faces off of other pictures and pastes them into the "gay bar" image mentioned in the summary.

    This is a troubling development. I'm not a big fan of government regulation, but I think there's a clear need for delineating the privacy of people who *want* to keep themselves private.

    People who do not have an account shouldn't have to deal with Facebook's particular brand of evil.

    1. Re: Cross-Dressers are people, too by ihtoit · · Score: 2

      uh... nope. EvoFIT can literally see through makeup. One of its sorting algorithms is based on a genetic evolutionary algorithm, which means it's fucking clever.

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    2. Re:Cross-Dressers are people, too by Megol · · Score: 2

      Eh... most American communists weren't Soviet ideologists. While they probably wanted a dictatorship it would be one of the proletariat. Which mostly equals direct democracy.
      And the treatment was not only wrong it was extremely so. Even a rumor that one once associated with someone that was (probably falsely) accused of being a communist was enough to make one unemployable. Witch hunt is the proper term for such behavior.

  10. not only have Facebook been doing this for a while by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Informative

    but Google have also recently taken to autotagging faces in photos you upload to G+.

    Incidentally, a 2013 report from the ITC says that you are 6 times more likely to have your bank account emptied by an identity thief via data taken from Facebook than you are to be the victim of a house burglary. http://blog.identitytheftcounc...

    I hate it when I'm right. AGAIN.

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  11. Re:What's the problem? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's what SHE said.

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  12. Facebook = The devil incarnate by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Facebook consists of the single largest privacy invasion ever invented. And they offer nothing that is not free elsewhere on the Internet, if not linked up under one password.

    If the government asked people to do what Facebook asks, there'd be another revolution. But offer them minor services that they could do themselves and they willingly throw away everything Thomas Jefferson fought so hard to give them.

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  13. Re:Like increasingly often, the real question begs by radl33t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    facebook probably can't generate sufficient profits off an activity like this. since their IPO they have essentially been squandering equity in all directions, including this one, to chase potential revenue. their growth targets are probably impossible (by a factor of 10 or more) without a massive change in revenue model. And so they chase whats app, flying drones, and spy tech. Its an impossible, hilarious, and economically inefficient circus, that is now playing out for the second time in 20 years, with mostly the same people involved. And these are the prized achievements of a system for which most here even express ideological preference.

  14. I heard of something by Gonoff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A while back, I read an article about this. Someone suggested "database poisoning".
    It sounds illegal but I am not so sure. All that everyone needs to do is to tag other people as you and vice versa. If enough people did that, it would mess up such a system.

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    1. Re:I heard of something by GeekZilla · · Score: 2

      When I still had my FB account, I did something similar. I began uploading random images of different people, mythological creatures and inanimate objects and tagging myself in them.

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  15. Re:What's the problem? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    ACs can do that you know. The rest of us, not so much.

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  16. Re:What's the problem? by markass530 · · Score: 2, Informative

    you are very, very confused about how facebook and its tagging system works