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Swatting 19-Year-Old Arrested in Las Vegas

Ars Technica reports that a Las Vegas teenager is in custody for multiple instances of swatting: Brandon Wilson, who goes by the online handle "Famed God," was arrested Thursday in Nevada and faces an extradition hearing to determine whether he should be sent to face hacking and other charges. Illinois prosecutors said there was evidence on his computers about the July 10 swatting incident, in which he allegedly reported a murder to Naperville's emergency 911 line. The SWAT team responded, but the call was a hoax. The Chicago-Sun Times said that, in addition to the Naperville incident, the suspect's computers held evidence "of similar incidents across the country."

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  1. news ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Err. That's good, right ? Police arresting bad people ?
    Not sure why this is news.

  2. Guy allegedly does something stupid by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He gets caught and will stand trial. Isn't this how the system is supposed to work? What's the problem here?

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    1. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's the problem here?

      Who said there's a problem? Why does there have to be one for something to make the news?

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    2. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by NoKaOi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He gets caught and will stand trial. Isn't this how the system is supposed to work? What's the problem here?

      Exactly, they busted somebody who deserved to be prosecuted. The problem here that when we read a headline (before reading the details) about law enforcement busting somebody, our default reaction is no longer, "good, they busted the bad guy," but rather, "there goes law enforcement abusing their power again, they probably didn't have a warrant and the guy is probably innocent."

      That says something about the state of nation.

    3. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Note that some of these "kids" were teenagers and some of these guns were replica guns not simply toy guns. Replica guns are visually virtually indistinguishable from real guns. Its sometimes a tragic situation where the cop didn't really do anything wrong when the "kid" looks old enough and the gun looks real enough.

      I'm not saying police don't overreact in some cases. I'm just saying some people misrepresent other cases for political reasons.

    4. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by Roger+Wilcox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is that SWAT is prevalent enough that punks like the guy in the article can even pull this kind of prank. SWAT came into prominence in the 1970s, with ~500 SWAT deployments per year. Today, there are more than 50,000 SWAT deployments each year (that's more that 150 deployments every day) and mostly, they are used to round up non-violent people engaging in consensual crimes. There is no justification for using paramilitary police action on non-violent petty crime. It is ridiculous: picture an 8-man armored squad busting in on a teenager smoking weed in his parent's basement. There have been dozens of tragic incidents in which innocents have lost their lives due to this excessive use of force. I don't have a solution to this. Politicians appear to consider the issue a career-danger to themselves to address; seemingly nobody is moving anywhere fast to rectify this trend. However, it has clearly become a problem.

    5. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by Smallpond · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If police response was less drastic, there would be no swatting. The problem is that police don't just show up, knock on the door, and ask if everything's OK They show up assuming that people in the house are armed and likely to shoot at them. The swatting perpetrator is hoping that people will die and should be prosecuted for attempted murder. If USA did not have its weird belief that guns make you safer then maybe fewer people would be pulling guns out during domestic disputes and fewer would consider it a pastime to incite armed invasions.

    6. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In these cases though...the police are (maliciously) informed beforehand that the people inside are 'armed and likely to shoot'.
      There really is no other choice for them but to show up and go all out.

    7. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by murdocj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Uh... right... "excuse me, are you are crazed well armed nutjob? No? ok, great".
      See, that conversation is pretty useless.

    8. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by demonlapin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can you give an example of swat being used to apprehend a non-violent person?

      Sure. Sal Culosi. He's a long way from the only one, it's epidemic. Read pretty much anything by Radley Balko to learn more.

    9. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by meerling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I see you have a lot of replies, but the short version is that effective full body armor, such as a full compliment of Dragonscale, is insanely expensive, while a box of handgun ammo is cheap. Combine that with swaggering cowards, a zero tolerance policy, as well as a lack of actual repercussions, and you end up with police based death squads who shoot first before even identifying if it's an actual threat.

    10. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think about the last time you used a hammer to drive a nail. You could probably put a nail through fairly thick piece of plexglass or sheet metal right? Anything strong enough to stop you would be rather heavy. Now think about how much more energy a gun can produce vs your arm with a hammer. Bomb guys might wear something strong enough to repel more powerful arms but you wouldn't want to wear that kind of suit when you need to move fast.

    11. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe the correct way the call starts is "Excuse me, but are you the person who just called us to say you're heavily armed and going to kill everyone in your home?"

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    12. Re:Guy allegedly does something stupid by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You asked for one. You've been given two. My lord you are fucktard.

  3. He should have seen that coming. by Mal-2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Filing a false police report is criminal in and of itself, even if it doesn't result in an expensive, resource-wasting, and potentially injurious or deadly response from the police.

    Do it once, maybe you get away with it. Keep doing it, and you can [i]expect[/i] to get caught.

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    1. Re:He should have seen that coming. by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I find that some kids are just well protected. They never have to really deal with the consequences of their actions. We have seen some high profile cases where a kid gets to college, do some stupid thing, hacking, drinking, sex, and because they have never had to deal with consequences they fall apart, even commit suicide. In this case, who knows what other trouble he has caused and how he has been protected from consequences.

      It is unfortunate the the law has to be called in because the kid did not have the guidance or the sense to stop anti social actions on his own.

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  4. Swatting is much more serious than a "prank" by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The linked article uses the words "prank" and "prankster" multiple times. This is not ordering someone else a pizza; this is ordering someone else a large group of hair-trigger people carrying deadly weapons and expecting violence. People like this should be restrained or executed, not so much for what they have done, as for being the sort of people who would do it.

    1. Re:Swatting is much more serious than a "prank" by arth1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The linked article uses the words "prank" and "prankster" multiple times. This is not ordering someone else a pizza; this is ordering someone else a large group of hair-trigger people carrying deadly weapons and expecting violence. People like this should be restrained or executed, not so much for what they have done, as for being the sort of people who would do it.

      By "people like this", I hope you mean the adrenaline crazed goons who slime their pants kicking in doors looking for someone to shoot.

  5. Re:Jail forever by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed. Some things you don't fuck with. Like pulling the fire alarm for kicks or calling the cops on innocent people.

  6. Re:Attempted murder by proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I disagree. If the SWAT team are so badly trained, they shouldn't be there in the first place. They are responsible for all their actions, and if they're relying on a civilian stranger's report, they should assume it's as likely to be bullshit as true.

    That doesn't mean the "prankster" wasn't committing a very serious crime, ofc. But not attempted murder. The state must always be held fully responsible for its actions, no matter how good or bad the information on which it acts.

  7. Re:"computer hacking" the convenient catch-all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't care about the hacking, but he should be tortured for swatting.

  8. More importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is the question of why its so easy to get a large group of hair-triggered people carrying deadly weapons to violently storm someones house over nothing more than a single anonymous phone call.

    Really? Thats all it takes??? some teenager with a cellphone & your address?

    I think we need to do something about that.

  9. Re:Longer sentences by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is nothing short of attempted murder. He may have intended it as a prank, but putting a dozen adrenaline-fueled heavily armed cops in the house of someone who might not be expecting an armed intrusion, and who might be prepared for one, is throwing gas on a fire. People could die if any tiny little thing goes wrong.

    Nope, this is pure cowardly violence. Stuff this idiot in a cell for 20-25 years. Let some non-violent offenders out if you don't have room.

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  10. It's a small thing... by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ars Technica reports that a Las Vegas teenager is in custody for multiple instances of swatting.

    ... but to me a nineteen year old is not a "teenager."

  11. You also forgot the Felony Murder rule by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...

    Swatting is most likely a felony in many states. If it causes death then the offender can be charged with murder under the rule.

  12. Re:Gibson Guitar SWAT raid ... by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It answers your "Can you give an example of swat being used to apprehend a non-violent person?" question.

    Why ask for AN example if you are just going to dismiss it as irrelevant. Do you have multiple personalities or something? Or just like moving goal posts?

  13. Re:"computer hacking" the convenient catch-all by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe cops should learn some restraint in their use of force?

    Hm. That's one possible outcome of swatting. If there are a few high profile innocent deaths as a result, policy may be changed to approach more cautiously. But they'd have to be really high profile, and we (and the media) would have to really rub their noses in it. I don't see it happening.

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  14. Re:Longer sentences by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So now we know why the US has the most people in prison compared to any other country.

    To me the problem is that some kid can call in a SWAT team. And if this is the case, why would the SWAT team be that dangerous? Are they send in to be a killing team?
    If a dozen adrenaline-fueled heavily armed cops are a danger in killing innocent people, then they are badly trained.
    If these teams is like trowing gas on a fire, then they should not have been send in the first place.

    I understand that people in the US do not see it that way, but for me as a European, what I see police doing in the US would be police brutality and/or abuse of power/intimidation almost all of the time in Belgium.

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  15. Re:"computer hacking" the convenient catch-all by Skylinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your police is partially to blame as well.
    I live in Germany go try and SWAT me, good luck.

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