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Notorious 8chan Board Has History Wiped After Federal Judge's Doxing
AmiMoJo writes On Monday, imageboard site 8chan's "baphomet" subboard, an Internet destination known for hosting aggressive "doxing" posts, received a major history wipe the day after one of its users posted the personal information of a federal judge in the Silk Road case. A follow-up post by baphomet's "Board Owner" account stated that "HW," a reference to site founder Frederick "hotwheels" Brennan, deleted "the SSN posts" and told the baphomet board founder, previously identified via an associated Twitter handle as Benjamin Biddix, to "lay low." The same day baphomet's "Board Owner" announced a "doxing for hire" service due to "running low on funds."
I'm sure the guy who posted was behind 7 proxies.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Your papers, please. You thought you were living in a free country? Ha! There are too many of you serfs now. We need to keep track of you with papers, please. Papers, please.
Is it illegal to post SSNs? If not, it should be.
What's the story here?
A user of a board posted info on someone, gets the attention of law enforcement and is probably going to see jailtime in the future.
The administrator deletes and removes said offending post.
What am I missing here or is this newsworthy?
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doxing (from dox, abbreviation of documents),[1] or doxxing,[2][3] is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting personally identifiable information about an individual.[3][4][5][6] The methods employed to acquire this information include searching publicly available databases and social media websites (like Facebook), hacking, and social engineering. It is closely related to cyber-vigilantism, hacktivism and cyber-bullying.
Doxing may be carried out to aid law enforcement, business analysis, extortion, coercion, harassment, public shaming and other forms of vigilante justice.[7][8]
Post anything about anyone. That's fine. Just don't post anything about a judge. Lesson learned?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
People don't like being doxed. Judges are people too.
I always assumed 4chan means "fortune." Is that right?
So then does 8chan mean "Asian?"
I've never been to either site. Can someone please explain the logic behind #chan?
Trying to intimidate a federal judge is both a criminal act and a VERY bad idea.
They're English-language clones of 2chan, which is in Japanese.
You white noise trolls really need to step up your game. Try some #GamerGate bullshit. At least that would be relevant to 8chan.
Aw man, I thought that was toucan. Next you'll probably tell me that 10chan isn't attention. :(
Actually prior to this thread, I wasn't even aware of the existence of any #chan other than 4chan, and the only reason I knew about that is because they're famous for creating the All Your Base meme in the early 2000s.
No, 4chan was created 3 years after the music video.
Why does it matter? It's not illegal to post name, addresses, SSN, etc... and you don't have to do anything illegal to get them. There are plenty 'background checks' companies. Doxing is the crowd source version of such companies like Uber is to taxis.
I would suggest that you ask a lawyer about this as it applies to a federal judge. You might get a surprising answer, for free even.
Posting *publicly available* information of a **public servant** is illegal?
Retaliation against a sitting Federal Judge and erasing of evidence will get these silly little fucks some serious attention and a real lesson in civics and the penal system. Welcome to the big leagues morons.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
It's obvious to everyone by now that the Slashdot editors have taken a passive aggressive stance towards Gamergate stories and submissions, using every opportunity to smear gamers and generally ignoring just about every even slightly neutral or nuanced aspect of the internet's biggest ever flamewar. Holy shit, News for Nerds, if ever there was news for nerds, it was Gamergate. Holy Fuck. The least the editors could have done was joked about it all.
But this shit? This is just straight up Propaganda, with a capital P. This obvious fucking bait that even the gamers and SJWs have almost completely ignored, ending up unironically on the front page. Propaganda for the New Age Fascists who have been shitting on both gamers and the entire tech sector for the last three years and who are fucking notorious for getting their SJW cult members to pull this false flag shit to try and get sites shut down.
I don't know what disgusts me more. Slashdot, the site that stood against censorship and SOPA, coming down on the site of the Moral Panic 2.0 hipsters calling for the internet wide censorship and controls. Or Slashdot, the site made by nerds, for nerds, coming down on the side of a transparent high school clique of social justice bullies who are ripping the tech sector apart at the seams.
Because for all their hysteria and anti-intellectualism, the SJWs are at the end of the day, fakers and posers who never cared about geeks, tech, or hobbies. But you guys, Slashdot eds and the shills in these threads, you were nerds once, and somewhere behind all the shame and self-loathing you've self-indoctrinated yourselves with, you know how wrong all this is. You know how hollow and hypocritical people like Shanley and Sarkeesian are, and you know that nerds, geeks, and techies are being bullied into submission by these people. You could have simply done nothing, but instead you've sided with some of the worst, most vicious, and most destructive trolls in the history of the internet. Shame on you. Shame on you all.
Thought For The Day: A heretic may see the truth and seek redemption. He may be forgiven his past and be absolved in death. A Traitor can never be forgiven. A Traitor can never find peace in this world or the next. There is nothing as wretched or as hated in all the world as a Traitor.
8chan was basically what happened when moot (who was 4chan's admin until his retirement a few weeks ago) banned #gamergate and fucked with /pol/. (Translation: Even he got sick of the gamergaters, and the fact that none of the political whackjobs could keep their shit in the /pol/itics containment board, so he fucked with 'em for the lulz. I thought it was funny as fuck.)
tl;dr: 8ch exists because there are people for whom 4chan is too polite.
8chan is as well as dead, as are its owners, administrators and in due time everybody who posted even a single blank space on it. They pissed off a Federal Judge: the government's gloves are coming off. There will be SWAT raids, beatings, day-long interrogations, imprisonments and summary executions. A bunch of shit nerds are about to be mercilessly destroyed. This is good.
AmiMojo..... is a very naughty boy. http://www.reddit.com/user/amimojo
A nobler White Knight, Defender of Women, there has never been.
Every time. Every time these SJWs turn out to be hypocritical perverts and con artists. Every. Single. Time. Why must it be gamers fate to be shat on by these twisted fucks?!? Gamers are like the abused children of the internet at this point.
You'd know it if you were older than 14.
quite the opposite...
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
The same day baphomet's Board Owner announced a "doxing for hire" service due to "running low on funds. Visit my naugthy website indobinal.com
Its called karma prostitution.
I'm in awe!
"Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
You know this wasn't a troll how? For all anyone knows, you made both posts, so you're sticking it to Gamegate in general is lame.
If it gets posted here — or at least links to the archive.today snapshots that the Ars article claims were their proof. Do it, faggot!
The founding fathers weren't terrorists. They were rebels.
I think you mean: moot was cosying up to Gawker and his brand new SJW buddies to get some money. GamerGate was busy attacking Gawker. So moot did what he was told like a little bitch.
Google can, you fucking retard.
Yes.
This happened at the beginning of Gamergate: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/23/4chan-users-threatening-to-expose-supposed-emma-watson-private-photos-after-she-gives-feminist-speech/
Yet, while Gamergate was being aggressively removed from 4chan, permanently banning users in droves for just posting into one of the threads (often even expressing disagreement), this was allowed to continue with not even a warning from a mod.
8chan supposed to be for free speech, but then they have the proviso
"Do not post, request, or link to any content illegal in the United States of America. Do not create boards with the sole purpose of posting or spreading such content"
8chan users always castigate 4chan as halfchan, but now itself is becoming 1/4chan
Where do you think disillusioned old men come from if not young idealists with experience?
Are you?
You think censorhip is bad? We have better in store
If you think you can fuck with the nerds / geeks, let's see who'll be the last man standing
Yeah. That moot did it out of anything resembling decency, is about as likely as Adrian Lamo turning in Manning out of a sense of civic responsibility.
I have a limited supply of fucks. Why should I give one to the drama, infighting, and paranoid delusions of a bunch of script kiddies?
Chelloveck
I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
Guess the wackjobs are also on slashdot.
Although I agree with your point about moot being a hypocrite (the neo-nazi posts can stay on /pol/ but god forbid someone criticize Kotaku) the Emma Watson stuff was an admitted hoax by people with an axe to grind against 4chan. Probably a case of a couple people samefagging and everyone else telling them to fuck off.
I think trying to supress this case can only result in the netizen-dom not standing down, but becoming re-calcitrant and digging up something more totally nasty and true stain on the judge's life.
Rich and influential, power-hungry people all all pervs, that's a natural law just like E=mc2. Politicians bang teenage girls and send them on to abortion, they like to humiliate subordinates by urinating into their mouths, etc. They participate in masonic and even more occulted rituals, using famous stolen skulls like Geronimo's for masturbation collection. Copulation with animals and goat sacrifices to Lucifer at an owl-shaped altar stone are also common.
There is no person whose life is snow white and truth is absolute defence in the USA. If proof surfaces from whatever source, that the judge spends his time with such unimaginable habits, the public may feel the judge cannot be a judge any more and his prior verdicts need to be re-tried, because with such a judge at the helm, the defedants had no chance to receive a fair trial.
In short, Streisand effect squared.
8chan was basically what happened when moot (who was 4chan's admin until his retirement a few weeks ago) banned #gamergate and fucked with /pol/
No, only the /gg/ board, and later /gamergate/ board came to be as you have described. 8chan itself (or infinitechan, the 8 representing a lemniscate) started over a year ago, which was many months before gamergate, when Brennan, having seen the many other *chans sprout up over the years in the aftermath of repeated censorship on 4chan, decided to create a hybrid of Reddit and 4chan.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
We're all in some ways wackjobs here on Slashdot. Some are saner than the SJWs and sympathizers, though -- at least, more amenable to rational thought.
And the women who get their private info posted on /baphomet/ EVERY DAY don't deserve protection?
They are not "outhouses" compared to judges, they are human beings that are simply denied protection from death threats, assassination attempts, and vile harrassment. Sure, give a judge extra protection because of the danger their state-given authority involves, but people are routinely materially harmed in ways these doxxed judges have not been, and to say the material harm they went through is nothing compared to the potential harm these judges are exposed to is ridiculous.
Don't pretend you actually give a rat's behind about the people who have been driven from their homes by 8Chan's boards, don't try to hide your defense of the continued death/rape threats against people behind a transparent analogy. Just come out and say that you don't care when private citizens get harrassed, driven to suicide, and regular assassination attempts. It'll make it easier for everyone to see where you stand on this.
This is blatantly wrong. 8chan existed well before even #quinnspiracy was a thing, never mind #gamergate. The barest effort in searching will show you it launched toward the end of 2013, while gg started toward the end of 2014.
They didn't even do the doxing themselves, that info has been on the darkweb for months.
1) a world where everyone knows how to dox, teaches how to dox, and uses it all the time as appropriate.
2) a world where nobody uses doxing and doxing is frowned upon everywhere and under all circumstances
3) a world where people don't do doxing, and it is frowned upon for people, but the NSA, CIA and law enforcement uses doxing internally, and it is accepted that they should do this.
I want to live in 1) or 2), but I do not want to live in 3).
I prefer 2).
moot trashed /pol/ because they discovered his gf was cheating on him, and relentlessly made fun of him for it.
Posted AC because of the shame of still visiting 4chan.
I'd rather focus on fixing the problems with using real names than "doxing" anonymous posters, for example.
The first hint of circumstantial evidence, and [judges] wake up and put an end to it immediately.
It seems like every time a geek goes on trial he makes the same mistake.
Eyewitness testimony is direct evidence.
Circumstantial evidence is used in criminal courts to establish guilt or innocence through reasoning.
University of Michigan law professor Robert Precht [once] said, ''Circumstantial evidence can be, and often is much more powerful than direct evidence.''
The common metaphor for the strongest possible evidence in any case ---the ''smoking gun'' --- is an example of proof based on circumstantial evidence. Similarly, fingerprint evidence, videotapes, sound recordings, photographs, and many other examples of physical evidence that support the drawing of an inference, i.e., circumstantial evidence, are considered very strong possible evidence.
In practice, circumstantial evidence can have an advantage over direct evidence in that it can come from multiple sources that check and reinforce each.
Circumstantial evidence
I'd do that before I'd go around threatening a federal judge. And releasing their home address, phone numbers, social security numbers, etc. *is* threatening a federal judge. You're being incredibly naive if you think otherwise.
I'm not saying judges are or should be untouchables. Not at all. Uncover and post every academic, financial, and personal acquiantance or interaction they've had since pre-school. That's useful and necessary oversight. But you do **NOT** post how to physically find them, interfere with their identity, or directly communicate with them outside of the courthouse. That's completely undermining the judiciary system. If a judge can't throw the book at someone for fear of their own life and safety, everything can fall apart.
A judge should be documented and attacked (figuratively) in the press, in the commons, and in the courtroom. But absolutely not after they remove their robes, not unless *they* do something to undermine your safety or their professional capacity *outside* the courtroom.
And I know some of you are saying "The judges are part of this shit, the militarizing of the police force, the war on drugs, etc. They have no right to privacy, who says they even deserve a right to safety for their complicity in this shit that kills and imprisons hundreds of thousands of US citizens?" Well who do you think has the power to directly *stop* those things? Without bloodshed? Yeah, the legislature can slowly change the laws until maybe police aren't carrying assault rifles regularly and aren't breaching your house without even knocking on the door...or the judiciary could become much more hostile to approving those warrants *today*. The public opinion is very obviously turning against total criminalization of narcotics and hallucinogens, against mass incarceration and crushing legal fines, against civil forfeiture and no knock raids. A judge can see this: they're generally very smart people. Make it clear that you respect them and expect them to uphold the will of the populace. Convince a judge that no knock warrants or the war on drugs are unconstitutional and they might do everything within their power and discretion to block those things. They have *huge* discretion, too. They say "I don't think you've met the measure of this code or the 'test' for getting this type of warrant." and that's the largest possible roadblock most police forces can encounter in pulling off something sinister. Just raiding shit with no warrants still isn't that easy, and it's not something any cop can just keep doing, no matter how good the Blue Wall is in a given town.
So make your choice. Either make the judiciary fear for their lives and give them serious pause about whether to jump deep into bed with military police forces, or treat them as allies who you will protect and honor. Make them feel safe and important *yourself*, while being firmly clear you want all this bullshit to stop, and maybe they won't want to support military policing or drug warrants so much anymore. Either make them afraid, or appeal to their pride an dignity. Which one do you think has a greater upside potential here?
Prosecutor (not judge) gets an European Arrest Warrant for someone not wanted for arrest and this instigates a police manhunt and stakeout that is costing about a million pounds a week.
A case not even those supposedly raped believe was rape even today.
I don't support doxxing people, even if it isn't strictly illegal. I don't think I would allow that sort of thing to happen on my website, if I owned 8chan. But, if Freddy is going to stand up for free speech, then it makes sense for him to allow board owners to get away with as much as possible before cracking down on them. And it wasn't HW who posted the numbers or even told anyone else to do it. It was a user on his site, who is solely responsible for the content of his posts.
This obviously can put HW and 8chan into a very gray area, legally speaking. That is a dangerous position to be in. But in the end, no matter what he does about it, there will be some reason to bitch. Either he is "hosting illegal content" (which is a terrible argument to make, as that one unsightly board has next to nothing to do with the rest of the site), or he is "wiping away evidence of a crime". Should he just contact the FBI anytime someone does something that sounds illegal? What about when morally wrong things happen, or offensive posts are made, should he remove those too? There are all sorts of arguments to be made in favor of him banning/removing lots of things, but the one he is sticking to is "will this land someone in prison?", which I personally am glad is his policy.