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Time-Lapse of Pluto and Charon Produced By New Horizons

schwit1 writes: Cool images! Using New Horizons' long range camera, scientists have compiled a movie showing Charon and Pluto orbiting each other during the last week of January 2015. "Pluto and Charon were observed for an entire rotation of each body; a "day" on Pluto and Charon is 6.4 Earth days. The first of the images was taken when New Horizons was about 3 billion miles from Earth, but just 126 million miles (203 million kilometers) from Pluto — about 30% farther than Earth's distance from the Sun. The last frame came 6.5 days later, with New Horizons more than 5 million miles (8 million kilometers) closer." The wobble easily visible in Pluto's motion is due to the gravity of Charon, about one-eighth as massive as Pluto and about the size of Texas. Our view of Pluto and Charon is only going to get better as New Horizons zooms towards its July fly-by.

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  1. More than 1 AU by rossdee · · Score: 1

    Still pretty far away

    1. Re:More than 1 AU by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 0

      Still pretty far away

      Yeah. Let's hope when it gets closer, the pictures will look like what we got from Voyager-[12]. That was 35 years ago. Man, we were good at the time.

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    2. Re:More than 1 AU by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      what we have from NH is what we had in 2012 from Gemini North, Hawai'i. That's not to say "Oh, how disappointing!", what you've got to consider (and from what I'm reading down this page, not many people are) is that the GN observations will NEVER get any better because OPTICAL PHYSICS and the fact that those observations were made when Pluto was about as close as it's going to get for a good while. NH is getting closer by the day - right now it is closer to Pluto than this planet will EVER get. The images are only going to get BETTER as it approaches - providing the cameras don't fail.

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    3. Re:More than 1 AU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Impressive indeed. The Voyager cameras returned 800x800 images from a Vidicon tube with a narrow-angle resolution of about 10 microradians/px. Horizons returns 1024x1024 from a CCD with a narrow-angle resolution of 5 microradians/px. On dynamic range, Horizons not surprisingly wins: Voyager digitized the tube output to 8 bits, Horizons' CCD is 12bpp.

      Voyager also taught NASA a valuable lesson when its scan platform jammed around Saturn - that's why Horizons is a single-piece deal. The price is, Voyager could take pictures & send them back at the same time because the camera & hi-gain antenna didn't have to point the same way. Horizons will fill up its 16GB onboard memory and then commence to dump - it'll be gone from Pluto before it's done, so there'll only be one dataset from closest approach.

      Oh, and speaking of good - both voyagers are still running. Once they're unambiguously past the interstellar bow shock, they'll probably have just enough fumes left to wheeze out "Woooo! I finally made it!" before going off the air forever.

  2. July Fly-by by rossdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    It makes sense when you're going to thecoldest planet in the solar system, to arrive in summer.

    1. Re:July Fly-by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, that is unless you count, say, Eris, but as it happens, this is sort of late summer on Pluto -- the seasons are not so much caused by axial tilt as by Pluto's eccentric orbit. Midsummer fell at perihelion in 1989, midwinter will be in 2114.

    2. Re:July Fly-by by Livius · · Score: 3, Funny

      As opposed to February, which is in summer. (Note both depend on your hemisphere.)

    3. Re: July Fly-by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      February depends on the hemisphere?

  3. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    That's no moon!

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    1. Re:Ob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's no moon!

      That's no planet!

    2. Re:Ob by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      You and the IAU can take a hike. I'm looking forward to seeing up close photos of the planet Pluto.

      And yes, I have mod points, and am posting anyway.

  4. Need CSI by inflex · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should have gotten CSI on the job, need that zoom+enhance facility.

    1. Re:Need CSI by jez9999 · · Score: 1
  5. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm waiting for the close in good stuff. Nothing there we can't see with a ground based telescope. Fuzzy dot, circling other fuzzy dot.

    1. Re:Meh by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Don't complain. Resolution is at least 8 x 8.

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  6. Sigh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem of a lack of women in science has often been raised here, maybe they just don't care. I just showed these pictures to my girlfriend, pointing out that these were pictures from another world that was a staggering distance away from us. Her reaction? "So?" Sometimes I wonder why we bother.

    1. Re:Sigh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell her they've got hot sales on Louis Vuitton gear there. Every. Freaking. Month.

    2. Re:Sigh! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But don't tell her a year takes like 248 years.

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    3. Re:Sigh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it's the same exact elements as here, same electrons, same protons, same photons. Do you get excited when you see a picture of Algeria? It's far away too. How about other galaxies? They're even further away.

      Indeed, so what?

    4. Re: Sigh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because all men would agree with you on how interesting that is.

  7. Thank you Mr Norris! by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    One still notes that Charon isn't actually bigger than Texas, though it could be one of Chuck Norris' turds! Now we will find out for sure.

    Thank you NASA. Thank you American taxpayer, this is one of the most inspiring things I've seen for a long time.

    I wish NASA a long mission!!

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    1. Re:Thank you Mr Norris! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris is a religious nut, can we please stop these jokes about how tough he is. He has no sense of humor and actively sues people using his memes on joke products.

  8. We should... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... really consider putting something epic into the barycenter between Pluto and Charon, if only to prove that we can:

    - An Eiffel Tower that goes both ways
    - A retirement home for our old folks
    - The ISS; the guys currently onboard would never see it coming. It would be hilarious.
    - A big cube full of cyborgs
    - A big blinking sign that would read: "There's nothing to see here, move along!" to discourage any potential alien invasion.
    - A space station that looks like a moon, probably with lasers

  9. "That's no moon..." by jpellino · · Score: 1

    (obligatory Ep.IV quote... parenthetical added since last time some people though this was a dissertation in planetary astronomy)

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    1. Re:"That's no moon..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      parenthetical added since last time...

      Maybe it would be more simple to not post this tired reference at every opportunity.

  10. Pretty cool, but by amanaplanacanalpanam · · Score: 1

    It makes me wish they had taken (or would publish) more than a mere 7 frames. At only 1 frame per day, it reminds me more of a stop-motion than time-lapse.

  11. And what of the Earth? by xigxag · · Score: 1

    It's really amazing to see that visible wobble.

    It makes me wonder if there are any available time lapses of the Earth-Moon system from a comparable vantage point? And would they show a much smaller but still faintly perceptible wobble in the Earth?

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    1. Re:And what of the Earth? by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      You'd see a massive wobble! the center of mass of the Earth - Moon system is at 74% of the Earth's radius

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

    2. Re:And what of the Earth? by aduxorth · · Score: 1

      +1 interesting.
      Thanks for that.

  12. Interesting angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what strikes me is that the orbit or Charon looks nearly circular (allowing for the wobble and all). Is this because Charon's orbit is actually at near 90 degrees to the solar ecliptic or is it that New Horizons is just very far above or below said ecliptic? I would not have expected to see such an orbit if NH was near the plane of the solar ecliptic. I would have expected Charon to be eclipsed by Pluto or some other edge-on orbit effect.

    1. Re:Interesting angle by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      no, it's pretty much face-on to the approach. Pluto's polar tilt is something like 120 degrees (give or take a couple) to its orbit. Charon's inclination to the Plutonian equator is 0.0 and they're each tidally locked to the other: Pluto presents the same face to Charon and vice versa. The nearside of one will never see the far side of the other. As they're tidally locked and orbit an external barycentre, their common orbits in the Plutonian frame of reference are almost perfectly circular (off by fractions of a percent if that). You could tie their closest points together with a rope and that rope will never stretch or slacken.

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    2. Re:Interesting angle by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      You could tie their closest points together with a rope and that rope will never stretch or slacken.

      it would be cool to actually do this

      imho, it wouldn't "never stretch or slacken"....

      relatively speaking, yes

      but if you actually did this, you'd need at least...idk...1000 km of slack...just a guess

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    3. Re: Interesting angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So use two ropes then. Just tie them together in the middle.

    4. Re:Interesting angle by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      Giant Bungee Cord FTW!!!

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  13. Mass Effect 4 by Myria · · Score: 1

    So, what's Mass Effect 4 going to do when the premise that Charon is actually a "mass relay" is no longer usable for suspension of disbelief? =^-^=

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    1. Re:Mass Effect 4 by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      So, what's Mass Effect 4 going to do when the premise that Charon is actually a "mass relay" is no longer usable for suspension of disbelief? =^-^=

      Personally, I'm hoping that we find out that Charon is a mass relay...or at least, made out of cheese.

    2. Re:Mass Effect 4 by infolation · · Score: 1

      At minus 240 degrees C, the cheese won't be in very good condition.

    3. Re:Mass Effect 4 by vandamme · · Score: 1

      It'll be fine once you thaw it out. At least that's what my wife says.

  14. ambassador to the outer solar system by globaljustin · · Score: 2

    the IAU should grant Pluto a once-in-the-universe exception to the definition of 'planet'

    it's perfect for kids...

    why?

    because Pluto technically isn't a planet even though historically it is known as one of the planets

    why isn't it a planet?

    see...it's just a big excuse to talk about astronomy

    put an asterisk by it in the textbooks

    the IAU could bolster its reputation by doing this as well

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    1. Re:ambassador to the outer solar system by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 1

      I always loved the sound of "Pluto" at the end of the list of planets.

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    2. Re:ambassador to the outer solar system by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      the IAU should grant Pluto a once-in-the-universe exception to the definition of 'planet'

      Same as we have a term for the Classical Planets as those that could be seen with the naked eye and known though history, I suspect we'll end up with a term such as Modern Planets or Classical Modern Planets that will include Pluto simply because it was a planet for some time.

  15. Looks like a planet to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just saying.

  16. Re:Thank you NASA by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Chuck Norris is a religious nut, can we please stop these jokes about how tough he is. He has no sense of humor and actively sues people using his memes on joke products.

    Yep, I see what you mean. He's a bit of a jerk.

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