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After 30 Years of the Free Software Foundation, Where Do We Stand?

An anonymous reader writes with this interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of The Free Software Foundation. "There is a growing concern about government surveillance. At the same time, those of us who live and breathe technology do so because it provides us with a service and freedom to share our lives with others. There is a tacit assumption that once we leave the store, the device we have in our pocket, backpack, or desk is ours. We buy a computer, a tablet, a smartphone, and we use applications and apps without even thinking about who really owns the tools and whether we truly own any of it. You purchase a device, yet you are not free to modify it or the software on it in any way. It begs the question of who really owns the device and the software?"

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  1. The FSF has failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While many of the FSF goals are laudable, the real world has intervened.

    There are people out there who just want to cause trouble, mischief, or otherwise harm others and the easiest way for the masses to protect themselves from this threat is to use a walled garden like Apple has built. The masses have spoken, and after weighing the costs of the walled garden (censorship etc) vs the benefits (no viruses), the masses have opted for safety with the added benefit of stores with trained staff to help them with any troubles they do run into.

    Furthermore, the FSF shot themselves in the feet with the reactionary GPLv3 and their refusal to allow gcc be useful for third party applications (open source or otherwise).

    If Apple could have continued using gcc, then it is likely LLVM/clang would never have had the success that it has.

    If FSF had left things alone and stayed with the GPLv2, then corporations wouldn't have run away from any GPLv3 software, with the developer community following.

    IF the FSF was truly concerned about the hardware issue, then they should have gone into the hardware business instead of trying to control it via the GPL. The only way to ensure open hardware is to make it yourself, because as the GPLv3 has demonstrated when you try to control with a software license then the hardware companies suddenly find the money to invest in alternative software instead of going the easy route of using your GPL'd software.

    But then again this is the type of behavior that brought you the attempt to take over the Linux kernel by renaming GNU/Linux when they were incapable of writing their own kernel.

    1. Re:The FSF has failed by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The FSF has failed

      Have you used Linux? Did you submit your comment to a server running Linux? That's because the FSF didn't fail.

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    2. Re:The FSF has failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Have you used Linux? Did you submit your comment to a server running Linux? That's because the FSF didn't fail.

      Oh whoopdee do! Linux happens to exploit the GPL v2 in order to get "tit-for-tat" contributions, that is all and that is why Linus likes Tivoization because its not about freedom its about code contributions. The FSF and RMS continue to hang their hopes and dreams on Linux and lay claim to its success simply because it uses an early revision of their license.

      The darling project of the FSF is one who's project founder and leader doesn't stand for the ideals of free software, despises the "black and white" view of RMS and the FSF and actively promotes the "anti-freedom" Tivoization...and yet free software advocates stick their heads in the sand on this because without Linux there would be little left.

    3. Re:The FSF has failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      I disagree.

      The FSF has a set of ideals and they stick to them. They don't compromise in the face of convenience, or the ability to make a buck.

      In 30 years most people have forgotten just what the computing world used to be like. The things the FSF have created have had more impact on how people use computers today than any other organization. They are the backbone of the free software movement. They brought the likes of Microsoft, Apple, IBM, and the entire (now dead) family of unix giants to heel.

      They don't care how you or some company feels about the GPL 3 and they didn't care what the world thought 30 years ago.

      That's the burden of being right. You stick to it. You continue on in the face of a thankless world until they all begrudgingly realize the error their ways.. And then you do the next thing that makes them hate you. Over and over and over again.

  2. Failure by bug1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We where onto a good thing, but we failed to adapt.

    We failed to adapt to the commercial attacks that make closed source software the gatekeeper to software freedom.

    We lost the mobile space, Android is full of crap software running on a Free kernel that hardly anyone can use freely.

    Free software is free beer that corporations on-sell minus the libre.

  3. Re:That's because by schnell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    how about because there is no DMCA or other such legal bullshit preventing them from doing what they want with HARDWARE THEY OWN??

    Since when has "ownership" ever equated to "I can do anything I want with it?"

    • I have a car but I am not legally free to disable the seatbelt or airbags. Does that mean I don't own my car?
    • I have a house. I signed a contract when I purchased it saying I would abide by the rules of a "Home Owner's Association" which regulates what colors I can paint it, and how I can decorate it. Does that mean I don't own my house?
    • I have a book but am not legally allowed to xerox all the pages of it and sell or give those copies away to other people. Does that mean that I don't own the book?

    In no modern society has "ownership" ever had anything to do with "has no restrictions on the usage of." If you want to debate whether users have adequate freedom to do what they want with their electronics, that is absolutely an arguable topic! But please don't say it has anything to do with "ownership."

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  4. A lot better than before by sayfawa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The situation isn't ideal, but it's much better than it was before. I have a gaming computer that runs Windows. The rest of my computers (including at my traditonal 9-5 desk job) is Linux. That's undeniable progress.

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  5. Strongly copylefted free software + enforcement by jbn-o · · Score: 3, Interesting

    See Brad Kuhn's talk about the future of copyleft (mirror) for the cure to non-copylefted free software—to keep software freedom in derivative works, license with strongly copylefted free software licenses (the AGPL version 3 or later being the best choice now) and then enforce the license.