Scotland's Police Lose Data Because of Programmer's Error
Anne Thwacks writes Assistant Chief Constable Wayne Mawson told the [Scottish Police Authority] committee that a total of 20,086 records had been lost because a computer programmer pressed the wrong button between May and July last year. He added: "....they had been properly put on the system by the officers as a result of stopping and searching people, but we lost the outcome of it as a computer programming error. We have been working really hard to recover that data. I have personally overseen the sending out of several thousand emails to officers and follow-up audits. We have been working hard with HMICS to oversee everything that we do, to make sure it is done properly and I am pleased to say that the vast majority of that data, those results, are now back on the system."
What if there was people powerful enough (politicians, ...) to clean their record? No, no, cannot be, complot theory. They surely don't have any functional backup. I am a believer my overlord.
Bureaucracy in action: " I have personally overseen the sending out of several thousand emails". If there were less people at overseeing emails and more in IT the whole mess would not have happened. Perhaps they should even try reading about backups next time.
Shouldn't that be typist or data clerk?
Speaking as someone who's been following this story as it developed, it seems to me that the data that has been 'lost' is data the high heid yins of Scotland's police were very eager to lose. They'd been acting beyond their remit - and probably beyond the law - and they knew it.
So I suspect someone with scrambled egg on their hat took that programmer into a quiet room and said 'you will make an unfortunate error this afternoon, or we'll be sending the boys round'. I'm pretty sure the government suspect the same.
Heads will, I suspect, roll - and I don't think they will be the heads of programmers.
I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
At least this article admits to a level of "programmer error". However --- like most "computer error" news articles, this one misses a key point: This (like many others) is actually management error. Management failed to oversee programmers. Management failed implement test. Management failed.
I just wonder how much longer before software testing will get the respect it deserves.
The good old "DELETE FROM records WHERE 1;.... FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU----" on the production system on a Friday afternoon...
Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
It is amazing that in this day and age, a system containing police records allow certain users to delete data in an irrevocable way whether it is a button press or anything else.
Don't you know it is now both immoral and criminal to think beyond the next quarterly report?
Very convenient, and of course we all know programmers develop their code on the only copy of a live database (of which there are no backups)...
All your ghosts are just false positives.
Obligatory XKCD reference: xkcd.com/327/
Don't you know it is now both immoral and criminal to think beyond the next quarterly report?
"Programmer error" != some idiot pressing the wrong button.
If you want powerful software, you get powerful results. You also get powerful fuck-ups. Don't blame the person who coded it, blame the idiot who clicked through 4 different "are you REALLY SURE you want to do this" warnings.
"Well kids, you tried your best, and you failed. The lesson is, never try." -Homer Simpson
Is it next to the "any" key?
In your dreams. They've got plausible deniability. It would be good to come back in five years and watch the career paths of those involved, especially this 'programmer'.
Seriously, what kind of system can't recover from a backup? Why can't this system? What idiot allowed the situation to arise where backups can't be restored?
Didn't GCHQ have a backup? They have a Backup Of Everything, no?
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Actually, New Scotland Yard is the HQ of the Metropolitan Police in London and this disaster was only for Police Scotland.
Police Scotland is the recently formed amalgamation of the four or five police forces that Scotland had into a single force. The merger was to unify various systems, presumably so that something like this could affect the whole of Scotland rather than just one part.
What's even more sad is that he has most definitely not "personally overseen the sending out of several thousand emails". At best, he has sent some memo around that said something like this: "Send out emails now! That's an order! Yours sincerely, your boss. P.S.: Fuck you!"
They arrested Bobby Drop Tables?
Who ordered that?
It's Scotland Police, nothing to do with Scotland yard or Ireland. Scotland is the land where cops punch out suicide bombers while their still on fire! They don't need no stinking coding error to cover their tracks, they just have to glare at the server and it will forget everything it knows.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
ye olde 'programmer pressed the wrong button' again when the brass ignored their pleas for implementing backup systems.
Karma _is_ a bitch.
Those that can, do. Those that can't teach. Those that can't even teach end up working for the cops, either as 'forensics', trashing peoples computers, or clowns like this one.
A single key mistake from a programmer (not a user, be warned) that can delete a whole lot of data needs a specific function to be coded.
Cannot be a mistake. It's intentional. Intentional stupidity at least.
On the other side a single key error from a user is different. But still, a function that wipes data, all of them, with a single key(press) should require no less than a second key for confirmation.
My personal diagnosis:
- 95% The report is totaly nonsense trying to move responsibility on someone else.
- 5% That was a reall single key mistake
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
"Assistant Chief Constable Wayne Mawson told the [Scottish Police Authority] committee that a total of 20,086 records had been lost because a computer programmer pressed the wrong button"
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And they don't keep backups, like the most trivial ISP does, like I used to work for
Is Lois Lerner working in Scotland now?
Do you have ESP?
It is inexcusable to not have a backup of the database. Sure the programmer was stupid. Should take less than 5 minutes to restore that many records from the backup that should be in place.
...mind, is: ...why was a lowly data monkey allowed the sort of access required to "accidentally" delete official records??
It takes a special kind of negligent to permit such crass contempt for operational data. This should prompt a criminal prosecution of not only the operator but the idiot who accepted the specification as well. Hell, my personal wiki doesn't allow deletion (as is the default, it takes a deliberate effort to change this to allow even an administrator account to delete ANYTHING), because yes it does have whitelisted guest accounts, I don't trust anyone (not even myself) to not one day decide to be really fucking stupid and "accidentally" erase months if not years of accrued work. Dear Police Scotland, YOU NEED HOBBYISTS LIKE ME RATHER THAN THE TWATS YOU PAY TENS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS OF POUNDS TO, TO AT LEAST OFFER ASSURANCES THAT YOUR ORDINARY USERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO *DELETE* RECORDS!
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
You cannot lose data because of one wrong keystroke. You can only lose data as part of a persistent culture of being careless about data. Anything put into this system should be logged, and that log is the backup. Data was lost due to inadequate, incompetent design. Or, it was designed to lose data, and it was very competent.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The admission came as senior officers appeared before a Holyrood committee.
Among them was Chief Constable Sir Stephen House, who said he had apologised for giving incorrect information to the police watchdog over stop and search statistics.
This is something that can only happen in Holyrood.
Sounds like they need to get their House in order
Whatever happened to off-line backups? One mistake can't wipe you out then.
"Almost every wise saying has an opposite one, no less wise, to balance it." - George Santayana
a few neds prolly got ewey scot free like.
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I find "programmer error" credible, which should tell you how much confidence I've got in their IT. If they don't have a backup for transaction data, and they are too cheap to provide a test environment, and don't restrict the programmers' access to the production database, programmer error is completely believable.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
This news breaks the same DAY leaks of Police Scotland are discovered to have been (and continue to be) performing an undisclosed number of "consensual" stop-searches on *children* under 12?
HINT: CHILDREN UNDER 12 CANNOT LAWFULLY GIVE CONSENT IN SCOTLAND.
This while the Hollie Grieg thing is STILL ongoing despite the fact that Robert Green has been persecuted by the Scottish police and judiciary for exposing the former Lord Advocate's involvement in the cover-up of her friends' involvement, more to the point her use of public money to pursue private civil litigations against anybody who goes after her on a public forum for continuing the cover-up? Come get me, bitch. I will take you the fuck down on any public forum.
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
An event driven and event sourced system would have prevented this.