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Federal Court: Theft of Medical Records Not an 'Imminent Danger' To Victim

chicksdaddy writes: A federal court in Texas ruled last week that a massive data breach at a hospital in that state didn't put patients at imminent risk of identity theft, even when presented with evidence that suggested stolen patient information was being used in attempted fraud and identity theft schemes. According to a post over at Digital Guardian's blog Beverly Peters was one more than 400,000 patients of St. Joseph Hospital whose information was stolen by hackers in an attack that took place between December 16 and 18, 2013.

Peters alleged that her personal information had been exposed in the breach and then disseminated in the public domain, where it was being "misused by unauthorized and unknown third parties." Specifically: Peters reported that, subsequent to the breach at St. Josephs, her Discover credit card was used to make a fraudulent purchase and that hackers had tried to infiltrate her Amazon.com account — posing as her son. Also: telemarketers were using the stolen information. Peters claimed that, after the breach, she was besieged with calls and solicitations for medical products and services companies, with telemarketers asking to speak to her and with specific family members, whose contact information was part of the record stolen from St. Joseph's.

As a result, Peters argued that she faced an "imminent injury" due to "increased risk" of future identity theft and fraud because of the breach at St. Joseph, and wished to sue the hospital for violations of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA). But the court found otherwise, ruling that Peters lacked standing to bring the case in federal court under Article III of the Constitution.
That was because she hadn't been able to prove any direct damages from the attempted identity theft that occurred in the past (Discover reversed the fraudulent charge), while the threat she faced in the future was not "imminent."

As this article notes, the ruling turns on a high profile case involving government surveillance and the now-infamous FISA courts dating back to the Carter administration: Clapper v. Amnesty International USA. In that case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the human rights group and a collection of lawyers and reporters in a challenge to part of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The plaintiffs said they feared that their sources, colleagues and clients would be targets of U.S. government surveillance, and the threat would force them to take expensive security measures to keep their communications private. The High Court ruled otherwise, saying the threat of government surveillance was hypothetical, but not "certainly impending."

In his 15 page ruling (PDF), U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt said the same logic applied to Peters' suit as well. "Under Clapper, Peters must at least plausibly establish a "certainly impending" or "substantial" risk that she will be victimized," Hoyt wrote. "The allegation that risk has been increased does not transform that assertion into a cognizable injury.

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  1. Exactly! by hsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because just like a credit card number when that is lost / stolen, they can just issue you a new medical history. They can undo the fact you may have diabetes, cancer, HIV, MS, heart disease all really easily and it won't impact your life at all.

    1. Re:Exactly! by monkeyzoo · · Score: 2

      This story is so F*ed up! It makes me sad, angry, and scared!!!
      I there any further appeal going to take place, or is this it?!

    2. Re:Exactly! by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. It shows that the legal system is fundamentally broken and incapable of dealing with the problems arising in an information-based society. No surprise.

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    3. Re:Exactly! by gtall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, it shows that a judge in Texas is screwed up. Arguing from a single point to an entire set of points is generally a hard argument to make, I suggest you take Logic 101.

  2. We Are Just Serfs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, basically, it seems from now on that attempted murder is going to be dropped as a crime, because a bullet would actually have to hit you, or at least graze you, in order for there to be a risk of harm? This is just another sign that the corporatocracy that we live in is never again going to recognize and respect the rights of individuals that are bearing the brunt for sloppy security and an unwillingness to recognize -- or care about -- the danger that results from it.

  3. Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if Judge Kenneth Hoyt would be cool with hackers openly posting all of his personal info online. After all, it's not a cognizable injury or anything.

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    1. Re:Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by monkeyzoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Open call to doxx the judge? Anonymous, are you listening?
      And then if the gov't catches the hackers, they can just say, hey there was no harm!!! He said so himself!

    2. Re:Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While normally I'd say no, in this case, the only way this judge will see the light is to personally experience just exactly what it means to be hacked. He's already demonstrated a total lack of understanding with actual evidence thrown in front of him, so maybe the experience will enlighten him. Would his position be the same with the meth-addicted gun toting neighbor that shoots randomly into the neighborhood yesterday, that he's not an imminent threat today.... some people are just idiots.

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    3. Re:Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know that this is entirely fair. While a lot rides on a judge's opinion, in the end, the judges are only supposed to interpret the law and precedents from higher courts, not make things up as they go along. If there had been no precedent (ie. the Clapper decision), he may have felt more free to define a better test for "imminent threat".

      Most lower court judges work to make sure their decisions will pass muster on appeal. That requires them to respect precedents or you can be sure that those judges will be constantly overruled on appeal. And if a judge is constantly overruled on appeal, it means that more cases end up waiting on appeals and fewer cases can be heard. If the Supreme Court is constantly having to decide cases that end up in their lap on appeal, they'll have no time to ensure the most important ones get their time. If a judge becomes a passthrough to an appeal, that judge will have their reputation and possibly their career suffer.

      There is a reason that judges are appointed, sometimes for life. They're supposed to be accountable to the law, not the electorate directly. If we have a problem with definitions, we need to get legislation with the right definitions. I am not suggesting that anyone get doxxed, but if someone was to be, it needs to be legislators.

    4. Re:Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Informative

      True:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V...

      "Congress passed the VPPA after Robert Bork's video rental history was published during his Supreme Court nomination."

    5. Re:Hey, no worries. It's no big deal by wiredlogic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You don't get a free pass to throw out common sense when you enter the judiciary.

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  4. My Wallet by Akratist · · Score: 2

    So, if I dropped my wallet, I wouldn't expect that there is an imminent danger that someone will take all the cash out of it and spend it?

    1. Re:My Wallet by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      No, no, no - this is like if you dropped your wallet, and someone used the personal information inside (from your driver's licence, credit cards, etc) to steal your identity, get a credit card in your name, spend the bank's money, and leave you liable.

      I trust that, like the judge in this case, you can now see why this is not a problem at all.

      Uh...

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  5. Totallly reasonable ruling by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Imminent threat" seems to me to be the opposite of "increased risk".

    Frankly, this guy seems to be using the same definition of "imminent threat" that the CIA uses when it determines who to kill/torture.

    Which is of course a huge red flag that you have made a mistake. I mean really, thinking like the CIA?

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    1. Re:Totallly reasonable ruling by TFlan91 · · Score: 2

      "Imminent threat"

      That sounds soooooo familiar... I just can't place it...

    2. Re:Totallly reasonable ruling by penix1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To my lay eye (IANAL and all) this is enough to justify more than imminent threat but actual harm:

      subsequent to the breach at St. Josephs, her Discover credit card was used to make a fraudulent purchase and that hackers had tried to infiltrate her Amazon.com account -- posing as her son. Also: telemarketers were using the stolen information. Peters claimed that, after the breach, she was besieged with calls and solicitations for medical products and services companies, with telemarketers asking to speak to her and with specific family members, whose contact information was part of the record stolen from St. Joseph's.

      For this judge to say it is simply ignoring the actual harm done is mind blowing...

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    3. Re:Totallly reasonable ruling by penix1 · · Score: 2

      First of all, yes they are claims partially substantiated by documents (CC Statements) and in the case of Amazon, any confirmation emails (which I assume they have since they thwarted the attempt).

      Still, that, to me, is more than enough to justify not only standing but the claim of "imminent harm" wich this judge is denying.

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  6. "Standing" by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The concept of Standing has to be the most abused notions in the legal system, especially with regards to the government.

    You should not have to prove you have been specifically injured in order to make the government follow the law.

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    1. Re:"Standing" by kilfarsnar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The concept of Standing has to be the most abused notions in the legal system, especially with regards to the government.

      You should not have to prove you have been specifically injured in order to make the government follow the law.

      It's even worse nowadays, because the government does so much in secret the evidence you have been injured is classified.

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    2. Re:"Standing" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do you have any concept of what the case is about here?

      Standing requires you to have:
      1) actual injury (or imminent injury);
      2) The injury must be caused by the defendants' actions or negligence;
      3) The injury must be redressable - e.g., it must be likely that court action will remedy the situation and make the plaintiff "whole" again;

      What is alleged by the plaintiff in this case is that "I'm at heightened risk of identity theft because of this, therefore St. Joseph's is in violation of the law and should be punished for the leak." Except every injury she claims is theoretical - not imminent, and there is no way of telling from ONLY her claims whether or not these claimed injuries were caused by the St. Joseph's leak. My medical records have never been breached, but somebody's stolen my credit card number before... so there are, clearly, other ways for a credit card number to be stolen. My medical records have never been breached, but I've received spam mail that appears to be from my own email address - so again, clearly there's other ways for this to happen. My medical records have never been breached, but I've received numerous and frequent calls from telemarketers - again, if all they have is her claim, then the preponderance of the evidence doesn't show that St Joseph's is the CAUSE of her woes.

      What's more, the only *actual injury* she's sustained has been fixed already - Discover declined the charge & issued her a new account.

      What's left is big scary sounding ghost stories that "someday some hacker might use my stuff to do scary stuff, and the only way that could have happened is through St. Joseph's negligence."

      So... yeah, she doesn't have standing to file a class action suit. In making this judgement, the government *is* following the law. Of course, if you'd like to revise the rules for Standing, then I'll go file a federal case against you because I'm afraid that something I've said here might make you punch me in the mouth someday. Because you know, punching someone in the mouth is against the law, and you MIGHT do it to me someday, so it never hurts to get you thrown in jail ahead of time - right?

    3. Re:"Standing" by sycodon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let's say the Feds set up an illegal surveillance program (what? never happen!).

      They illegally spy on people but you don't know who. They may have spied on you, but you can't prove it.

      So YOU can't file a lawsuit against the feds because YOU haven't been spied on.

      Do you see how ridiculous "Standing" is in this situation?

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    4. Re:"Standing" by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      We need an ombudsman or independent commission which has automatic standing in Federal court with the specific charge of investigating scenarios like this where someone believes they could have been harmed, but they can't get enough evidence to prove that they have standing. The commission would then get the information, which they would keep secret until they determine a list of people where there might be probable cause that they have been injured. That or the commission sues, is granted an award, and then as evidence appears that people have been harmed, those people can apply to the commission for redress.

      There are a lot of holes in that idea I can see, but the general idea is that we probably need an innovation to cover this standing and accountability gap.

  7. Reductio ad absurdum. Colbert would have agreed! by DutchUncle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe this is saying that you can't sue for something that hasn't happened yet - and, indirectly, that the law requiring protection of confidentiality (and penalizing failure) has no teeth, and that the limits against abusive overreach of law are allowing an end-run around the general intent.

    Let's say you had a workman at your house, and they left the garage door unlocked when they were finished. If you come home and everything is fine, then there is no cause for legal action. If you come home and your house has been robbed, then first it's the robber's criminal act, and then maybe there's a civil action by your insurance company to get money from the workman's insurance company.

    The hospital is seen as the *victim* of a theft, just as if a doctor's or psychiatrist's office were broken into for drugs and some records were stolen, rather than a *culprit* for "failing to maintain HIPAA confidentiality". YOU have to go after each person who does something illicit with the information; each marketer, each fraud instance, each problem, is individual. And since each of them is small individually, it's YOUR burden to chase them as a civil matter rather than a criminal matter that would get you some help from society (through the police agencies).

  8. I can see that by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    If a breach happens, just change your medical history.

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    1. Re:I can see that by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      This.

      It's stupid to continue having high blood pressure once a breach has been revealed.

      People should change ailments at least every 60 days.

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  9. Re:Law does not equal justice by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

    Courts apply the law - justice is a bit more nebulous.

    This is why I say we have a legal system, not a justice system.

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  10. Generally people do not understand by Bonzoli · · Score: 2

    Generally people do not understand about personal data until it bites them in the butt. If his data and his families data gets highlighted in those records on the net. Bet he will think differently very fast. Perhaps he needs to understand the personal injury before he can make good decisions.
    Until is more expensive for people that make these decisions and corporations that fail on so many levels of bureaucracy, no changes will be made that have an impact.

  11. Re:Texas is a Republican state by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

    Texas is about 60/40 Republican/Democrat at the moment. From 1848 to 1978, Democrats won Texas in all but 4 presidential elections, and Texas even had a Democrat (Ann Richards) as it's governor up until George W. Bush was elected in the mid-1990s. Texas' population is also among the fastest growing in the nation as a result of the high number of people relocating there from other states, suggesting that its demographics are likely to change over the next few years. As it is now, almost all of the urban centers (of which there are quite a few) lean Democrat, while the sprawling suburbs (of which there are also quite a few) lean Republican.

    Suggesting it's "99.999% Republican" means that you've fallen for the rhetoric one side or the other is spewing.

  12. Misreading Court decisions... by sabbede · · Score: 4, Informative

    The court did not say she was wrong, it said she went to the wrong courthouse.

  13. Re:Liberal Ass by hey! · · Score: 2

    You keep using that word; I don't think you know what it means.

    Not only was this guy nominated by Reagan, he was nominated on Phil Gramm's recommendation.

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  14. Dismissing all data protection laws by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although it is alleged that St. Joseph's failures "proximately caused" these injuries, the allegation is conclusory and fails to account for the sufficient break in causation caused by opportunistic third parties. The injuries, to the extent that they meet the first prong, are "the result of the independent action of a third party" and therefore not cognizable under Article III.

    1) Company leaks your data
    2) Third parties abuse your data
    3) You don't have standing to sue company, because you've been harmed by third parties.

    Who else would have standing to sue expect for the people whose data is being protected? This is basically saying nobody has standing and the law is null and void. This judge should rule the Snowden trial, if there ever is one. He'd dismiss all charges because the US government would lack standing, they haven't been harmed by Snowden's actions only the actions of independent third parties acting on his information. That's a clear break in causation, don't you agree?

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  15. Re:Reductio ad absurdum. Colbert would have agreed by cusco · · Score: 2

    The hospital **will** be facing fines for the breach, HIPAA violations are expensive. Hospitals have been cutting IT staff in recent years as a penny-smart/pound-foolish cost-saving measure, wonder if this will show Franciscan Healthcare how stupid that is.

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