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Humans' Big Brains Linked To a Small Stretch of DNA

A new study (abstract) described in the L.A. Times suggests that "just 10 differences on one particular strand of human DNA lying near a brain-development gene could have been instrumental in the explosive growth in the human neocortex." The DNA region, containing just 1,200 base pairs, is not a gene. But it lies near one that is known to affect early development of the human neocortex, according to the study, published online Thursday in Current Biology. Researchers showed that the region, known as HARE5, acts as an enhancer of the gene FZD8. Embryos of mice altered with human HARE5 developed significantly larger brains and more neurons compared with embryos carrying the chimp version, according to the study.

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  1. Look around you by invictusvoyd · · Score: 3, Funny

    Facebook , whatsapp .. HARE5 is certainly mutating .. some of the recent human DNA will make mice with smaller heads .. The world is going to be dumb eventually ..The dumb people make more babies .. The smart ones are still workin on that thesis they have to finish.

    1. Re:Look around you by GloomE · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was going to moderate this.
      But then I couldn't work out if it thought it mostly Flamebait, Troll, Redundant, Insightful, Interesting, Informative or Funny.

    2. Re:Look around you by sound+vision · · Score: 2

      There are plenty of smart people who have never had to do a "thesis", if you mean a project to cap off a university degree. Conversely, there are plenty of dumb people who have degrees. That number is only going up from grade inflation and degree devaluation as the idea that everyone needs to go to college permeates deeper into society. An idea fed, in part, by comments like yours.

    3. Re:Look around you by earthminion · · Score: 2

      @GloomE, the poster you refer to (invictusvoyd) was paraphrasing the film Idiocracy ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...

      As your understanding of the genome increases, I wonder if sooner or later, someone is going to try gene therapy to hit HARE5 to try to boost it more? ... or at least find a way to improve on what nature has so far achieved. That's an upgrade most of us would want. If we could make the entire human race smarter, we could solve a lot of problems in the world.

    4. Re:Look around you by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
      The current size of the human head is limited by the pelvic size of women (humans already have a fairly high rate of mortality among newborns and mothers for unaided births compared to other species as a result). A more interesting approach would be to delay the age at which the head stops growing, though that would also need extra skeletal scaffolding to carry the larger head around, improvements to the cardiopulmonary system to keep it supplied with blood, and so on. Basically, the human brain is about as big as you can get it with small incremental changes to a hominid - you're going to need more than a few tweaks to get it a lot bigger.

      Oh, and this isn't Twitter. You don't need to say '@GloomE' - we can tell from the fact that you replied to his post that you replied to his post.

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    5. Re: Look around you by rkcth · · Score: 2

      While I slightly disagree with his comment, I think it just needs to be phrased differently. When we say "smart" we may mean depth of knowledge in one or more subjects, or able to grasp new things quickly, but there is a much greater diversity in useful intellect. My father is not what most people would call "smart", he's not great at learning new things, has a below average grasp of math, doesn't read or enrich his mind, etc. yet he can look at a problem in the real world and find a solution to it in a few moments. He can't always articulate it well to others, but it's astonishing to see. He will often build something with 1 person as efficiently as 2, because he comes up with contraptions for anything you'd need another person for. He rarely uses brawn, he uses simple machines, jigs and more. He's so much smarter than I am in those areas. I can sit down and read a book on a subject and remember everything I read, and often be able to do that thing immediately afterwards. I bought books with all my income growing up, I taught myself programming and started a software company, but I will never be as good as my father at seeing a problem and solving it rapidly without the help of others and without the use of costly devices. He's "smarter" than me in that area. If IQ tests tested for that he'd be in the top 1%, Id be in the bottom 10%. There are many gifts we all have and devaluing others gifts, because they differ from our own by calling them dumb, shows just how much more you need to grow.

    6. Re: Look around you by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      This proposal, of course, works from the assumption that you can get marginal gains in intelligence from marginal increases is brain mass, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been established empirically.

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  2. life imitates art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    next time on Pinky & the Brain...

  3. mice, HGTTG by swell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we learned anything from The Hitchhiker's Guide, it is that the mice are the supreme species on earth.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
    What's the point of injecting inferior genes into their brains?

    On a more serious note, it will probably be a long time before genetic science can safely determine the source of intelligence or any way to manipulate it. And a long time beyond that to overcome social and legal impediments to using the knowledge in any practical way. Expect to be just as dumb as you are for the rest of your life.

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  4. Re:just 10 differences? by invictusvoyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then why doesn't someone make these 10 changes to a chimp egg and sperm and see what happens?

    Planet of apes : rise of the funky monkey (3D)

    In cinemas this season ....

  5. Re:I.D. by itzly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But if it was evolution alone, other species would have it too

    You assume that bigger brains offer a net benefit to other species. The problem is that large brains consume a large amount of energy. If the extra intelligence doesn't help to acquire extra food, the bigger brain is not a asset. Also, acquiring food is only part of the equation. Animals must also be able to actually eat and digest it. An animal like a cow already spends every waking moment on eating and digesting. Even if bigger brain could help it find more grass, there's still not enough time to actually process enough of it.

  6. Re:I.D. by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    Intelligence can do far more than gather food more effectively. Less intelligent critters are plenty good at that as well. Early proto-humans probably had some other advantages, such as the ability to adapt to changing conditions, or to create tools useful for weapons or defense, all thanks to bigger brains. Intelligence is really the ultimate utility trait, because it allows for better adaptation that might cause other animals to simply die out. Look at how successfully early humans survived all over the globe, in almost every climate, even without dramatic physical alterations - only minor differences, such as eye shape, skin pigmentation, etc.

    That being said, the other advantage we have is the evolutionary path that allowed us better use of those big brains, such as the ability to walk upright and opposable thumbs on very dexterous hands. As such, we can more easily shape the world to our advantage through sophisticated tools. Without the proper bodies to manipulate the world around them, intelligence would do a creature far less good. Improved intelligence may have been tried before, but it may not have been worth the increased nutritional demands without the correct body to take advantage of it.

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  7. Re:I.D. by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Don't feed the trolls. Especially the cray-cray trolls.

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  8. Re:I.D. by itzly · · Score: 2

    Intelligence can do far more than gather food more effectively. Less intelligent critters are plenty good at that as well

    The point is that they need to "pay" for their bigger brain by eating more food. And for a creature with a small body, it means a a lot more food. So, it doesn't matter what nice things intelligence can do for a creature, if it can't afford the energy for it.

  9. OMG, is this ethical? by countach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So they're breeding mice with the genes of a human brain? As Kramer said in that episode, there is a secret plan for pig men, or rather rat men.

  10. Re:I.D. by itzly · · Score: 2

    Yes, there's a theory that humans cooking their food was a big enabler for their bigger brains, because the cooking process makes it a lot easier to digest the food and absorb more of the nutrients in a short time. But the ability to cook the food depends on a lot more than being intelligent. You also need the body that allows manipulation of tools so you can carry the fire wood, start a fire and control it, and carry the food to the fire. That's something that our bipedal humanoid ancestors could do well, but most other animals would not be able to pull off, even if they were a little bit smarter.

  11. Re:Say... by sound+vision · · Score: 2

    I was thinking more about people who have a natural aptitude for logic, critical thought, and independent study, but hard knocks often come into the picture too.

    In the end it's about judging people on their merits, not their background or some rubber-stamped credentials.

  12. Re:I.D. by Livius · · Score: 2

    But if it was evolution alone, other species would have it too.

    Evolutionary innovations don't work like that. There's a species that's first. It might not keep the monopoly for long, but humans haven't been around for long.

  13. Re:Say... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    The experiment ended one morning when the HARES mouse cage was found empty, with a note neatly printed in Comic Sans:

    As socially enlightened rodents we have decided to quit this stupid study and accept Salon's offer of a columnist position, which we will fill cooperatively.

    Yours in solidarity,
    -Algie