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Will Greek Finance Minister Varoufakis Support Cryptocurrency In Greece?

giulioprisco writes New Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, former Economist-in-Residence at game developer Valve Corporation, sees something like Bitcoin — or, more likely, a state-controlled "Fedcoin" — possibly playing a role in the (necessarily creative) rescue of the Greek economy. "The technology of Bitcoin, if suitably adapted, can be employed profitably in the Eurozone," he said.

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  1. Why? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Informative

    Greece doesn't need a currency, it needs liquidity - a crypto currency won't bring that. The entire current issue is not about which currency to go for, its how Greece keeps paying its creditors - if they can't service their current debts, their ability to borrow goes through the floor, and a crypto currency isn't going to reverse that. Greece can't back its own crypto currency with anything it has a monopoly on either because it doesn't have anything that valuable.

    1. Re:Why? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

      A surplus built on the back of borrowed money is not a surplus if you decide not to pay that money back. There's a reason accountants use amortization schedules and depreciate long-term assets. If you want to artificially restrict your analysis to just what the government spends (minus debt repayments) and collects, then you also need to subtract any economic activity generated by purchases made with that money which led to the debt.

      In other words, you cannot buy a car with a car loan, get a job which requires the use of the car, then claim you shouldn't have to pay back the loan because you'd be making money if it weren't for those pesky car loan payments. Eliminating the car loan from your calculation also necessitates eliminating the car.

  2. Re: Umm... Lulz.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... continuing a bit.

    The reason the can't escape completely the loans is simply, if they dare to say that they don't pay, then who's going to loan them money after that? Right, nobody.

    How they would be able to do trade with other nations after that? Right, paying everything in front in euros or dollars, nobody else would trust them otherwise.

    So, where would they get those euros / dolallars? Now, that's the real tough guestion, and I don't have an answer for that. Nor I think has Mr. Varoufakis either, and that's the reason even as he trying to play tough guy will have to thing seriously before spewing "We don't pay our loans" or anything that could even remotely be understood like that.

  3. Re: Umm... Lulz.... by Teun · · Score: 3, Informative
    Maybe you should take your temperature?

    Nearly every EU country has a couple of conspiracy nuts claiming *.* screwed them during or before unification.

    The problem is not someone loaned bad or good money to Greece, the problem is Greece wasn't and isn't able to hold up it's own pants, all due to their own lack of courage to fix their tax and economic imbalances.

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  4. Re: Umm... Lulz.... by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's also this big lie that "Greece has been saddled with debts that they could never pay". Greece's state assets are worth an order of magnitude more than their debts. They could sell off a tenth of them and have all of their debts in the clear right away.

    Obviously, they don't want to privatize everything, and I don't blame them. But the concept that this debt is impossible to service is simply a lie. They just don't want to. Heck, they could do it without excessive pain to the middle class or extensive privatization if only they'd go after their wealthy - there's a couple dozen Greek billionaires and countless more in the next eschelons. And these are the biggest tax dodgers who don't pay anywhere close to their fair share. But Greece is apparently either unable or unwilling to go after them.

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  5. Re: Umm... Lulz.Markets will Rule by Tom · · Score: 3, Informative

    You've read too much propaganda.

    The crisis in Greece has many reasons. Inefficiency is a problem, but not a crisis cause. The fact that the country had a strongly interconnected (not to say, inbred) web of corruption between politics, administration and business is much more likely to have been a leading cause.

    The greek "giveaway state" is such a cheap myth. They don't even have social welfare the way that those who cry loudest (e.g. Germany) have.

    The real problem is that Greece was heavily in debt to foreign banks. Instead of giving them a way out, the governments of the countries of those banks pressured them into paying their debts and interests, and cutting spending. When your economy is in a crisis, every economist who's not a total idiot knows that cutting government spending will deepen the crisis. What a surprise, that's exactly what happened.
    And now comes the magic trick: The amount of debt that the EU, European Central Bank and IWF consider "acceptable" is calculated based on a countries GDP. Greece actually cut spending a lot and last year ran on a balanced budget, something that our own Mrs. Merkel didn't manage to do with our country. Greece debt has actually decreased. However, due to the magic trick, Greece debt ratio has become worse, not because of more debt, but because of less GDP.

    It's like telling you that because you're in debt, you need to sell your car to pay me. And after you've done so, telling you that because your net worth has now declined, you've now got a different credit rating and owe me more money for the higher risk.

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