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Iran Allows VPNs To Make Millions In Profit

New submitter Patrick O'Neill writes with this excerpt from The Daily Dot: Anti-censorship technology is de jure illegal in Iran, but many VPNs are sold openly, allowing Iranians to bounce around censorship and seemingly render it ineffective. Nearly 7 in 10 young Iranians are using VPNs, according to the country's government, and a Google search for "buy VPN" in Persian returns 2 million results. Iran's Cyber Police (FATA) have waged a high-volume open war against the VPNs, but it's still very easy to find, buy, and use the software. It's so easy, in fact, that you can use Iran's government-sanctioned payment gateways (Pardakht Net, Sharj Iran, Jahan Pay & Baz Pardakht) to buy the tools that'll beat the censors. To use these gateways, however, customers have to submit their Iranian bank account and identity, all but foregoing hopes of privacy or protection from authorities."

57 comments

  1. But who's profiting ? by invictusvoyd · · Score: 2

    Khomeni and the jolly fellas? Is a ban on VPN non enforceable in Iran ?

    1. Re:But who's profiting ? by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      Its like a gambling tax The government gets its share.

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  2. I thought VPN was easy to block by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe the government's censorship stance is a show to pacify the more conservative bunch of clerics.

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    1. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by invictusvoyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nope , the goverment officials are pocketing all the money .. They dont make the policies ( they are made by religious leaders .. khomeni etc. ) and they dont care .. and dont mind being rich

    2. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      the goverment officials are pocketing all the money

      Well yeah, that goes without saying, and unless the religious leaders own all the financial institutions, they're not making the rules either.

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    3. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's comforting to know that at their core, all governments are the same - lies and rampant corruption.

    4. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you hate America?

    5. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by towermac · · Score: 1

      Who hopefully don't read slashdot.

    6. Re:I thought VPN was easy to block by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      "a Google search for "buy VPN" in Persian returns 2 million results". Why is this still a thing? I remember pre-Google, people would always quote search result numbers as if this meant something. 2 million hits doesn't mean 2 million VPN providers, or 2 million customers. Anyone is has ever ventured the the dark recesses of page 2 of Google search results knows that after the first 10 or 15 hits, it's all noise.

  3. buy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A VPN is not a scarce, physical commodity that can be bought and sold. You don't go to your local VPN-monger and say, I want to by fifty-three VPNs.
    Rather, VPN hosting is a service, and what you buy is access to the service. Talk about "VPNs are sold" or "buying VPNs" is just really imprecise and misinformative terminology that makes the speaker appear as a fool, and rightly so.

    1. Re:buy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to be pedantic.

  4. Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Iranian government benefits from having a list of individuals, identified by bank account no less, who have purchased certain goods or services online. A very handy tool to have when making threats, coercing cooperation or prosecuting those who refuse to cooperate. It also gives a good starting list for surveillance targets, narrowing their initial field to people who are likely to be more interesting and not caught by the blanket keyword filtering on the public and unencrypted Iranian intranet.

    1. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by bhagwad · · Score: 1

      But merely purchasing a VPN is no proof of illegal behavior. Unless the government is ALSO getting log records of what people see. But the article doesn't make any mention of that, so I assume it's not happening.

    2. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But merely purchasing a VPN is no proof of illegal behavior. Unless the government is ALSO getting log records of what people see. But the article doesn't make any mention of that, so I assume it's not happening.

      Once you have the name and supplier getting the supplier to provide information you want is not that big of a step. You can let most people use a VPN without problems and let suppliers make money; in exchange they provide you with what you want or lose the income stream.

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    3. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by bhagwad · · Score: 1

      This probably holds true for local VPN providers or those run by the government itself. But any service outside Iran would see no reason to cooperate with the Iranian government.

    4. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by unrtst · · Score: 1

      This probably holds true for local VPN providers or those run by the government itself. But any service outside Iran would see no reason to cooperate with the Iranian government.

      Money.
      They are businesses, therefore they want/need money.
      There is little risk in this. If the (Iranian) user complains or sues, to whom will they complain? The user was breaking the law.

      In general, you're probably right. However, if the Iranian government wanted, they could simply block access to that outside VPN that was not working with them, thus artificially limiting the users choice to those that abide. It's really not a far stretch of the imagination to think that may be happening.

    5. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by bhagwad · · Score: 1

      True. Money can be viewed in two ways - short term and long term. A company that wishes to maintain its reputation against any future revelations might decide to not cooperate simply because if it ever came to light it would be very bad for it - especially if there was no legal obligation to turn over the user data for a service specifically designed to protect privacy like a VPN!

      But yeah - the govt. can simply block VPNs outside the country, and that would be that.

    6. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by grcumb · · Score: 2

      But merely purchasing a VPN is no proof of illegal behavior.

      Yes, yes it is. The very first sentence of the summary says so. I think you win some sort of /. prize for ignoring even that.

      Spoiler alert: The story is set in Iran. Turns out the bad guys are actually helping people get around their own laws because they get rich doing it.

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    7. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by youngone · · Score: 1

      You may be correct, and what you say is plausible, but I have the feeling that the Islamic bit of the Islamic Republic might be a bit half hearted. I worked with an Iranian lady who laughed when someone mentioned how Muslims don't drink. "You've never met a bunch of lushes like the Iranians" she said, and told us all a great story about the purchasing of (illegal) booze in Tehran in the 1980's. I wonder if their attitude to these things is that rules are made to be broken.

    8. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by turp182 · · Score: 1

      Iran is a "young" country in terms of population age.

      From 2011, but that's only 4 years ago:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...

      So if 70% (7 out of 10) are using VPN and being cataloged, they are basically doing a census.

      If they are tracking usage then they remind me of the US, they just track everyone. I'm from the US.

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    9. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by towermac · · Score: 1

      Don't need all that.

      Here's a person of interest you know nothing about. Happened to be in the area on surveillance cams when shit went down.

      Does he have a vpn? Yes?

      Does he have a job that needs a vpn? Bank, Oil company, network admin for 500 users (how many of those in Iran?)...

      No?

      Then he's up to something.

    10. Re:Payment Gateway Access is No Accident by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Just because a packet is encrypted and outbound from Iran, they don't know the packet is necessarily VPN. There are some signatures that signify use of certain VPNs and they can get that with Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) according to forums I've read, but it also sounds like they would need to block them one by one including new and modified ones. Unlike viruses, though, some of those connections may be legitimate business or government ones.

  5. Bitcoin and Criminals by Tokolosh · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm sure bitcoin is being used to pay for VPN service. Once again confirming that bitcoin is the preferred tool of criminals.

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    1. Re:Bitcoin and Criminals by Wootery · · Score: 2

      No-one can deny Bitcoin is convenient for criminal dealings.

      So are vans and baseball bats.

    2. Re:Bitcoin and Criminals by Tokolosh · · Score: 1

      To those who have modded me as a troll, I am downhearted that you don't seem to get the irony.

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    3. Re:Bitcoin and Criminals by behrooz0az · · Score: 1

      I know a lot of vpn server administrators, yeah, we know eachother, NO ONE uses bitcoin here.

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  6. interesting application by nimbius · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you think this kind of corruption is typical of iran, a bit of light should be shed to help. this type of nearly parasitic marketplace is the direct result of 40 years of unsuccessful economic sanctions and trade embargoes by the west. When Iran says, for example, its nuclear program is peaceful its quite easy to see why: imports of X-Ray and medical isotopes from nato countries are severely restricted if not outright banned. Iran is entirely dependent upon Russia for the nuclear material they receive, and 100% is directed toward the bushehr power plant. Irans every export from rugs to simple spices like cumin are forbidden by western allies. And once every other year, the United States toys with the idea of an invasion, bombing, assassination, or plot to destroy Iranian infrastructure as part of a sadistic and misguided foreign policy of stopping a communist threat that never existed. For americans, this video helps explain some of the market eccentricities of the country.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    1. Re:interesting application by Solandri · · Score: 2, Informative

      this type of nearly parasitic marketplace is the direct result of 40 years of unsuccessful economic sanctions and trade embargoes by the west.

      This is the same bullshit spouted by the Castro government in Cuba. You do not have an inherent right to force other people to trade with you. If they don't want to trade with you, it is their right not to trade with you. If your socio-economic system is robust, it will continue along just fine. Perhaps not as well as if you had had more trade opportunities, but it will continue to function and grow. Just like in old days when transportation was by ox and cart so your selection of trade partners was extremely limited - the economy still grew back then. If your economy doesn't, then the problem is your socio-economic system, not foreign trade sanctions. And the line you give is being trotted out by the people in power in your country to deflect criticism away from themselves (who are the ones truly responsible).

      When Iran says, for example, its nuclear program is peaceful its quite easy to see why: imports of X-Ray and medical isotopes from nato countries are severely restricted if not outright banned. Iran is entirely dependent upon Russia for the nuclear material they receive

      A nuclear program can be both peaceful and military. Proving that it has peaceful uses does not prove that it doesn't have military uses.

      And actually, if you project Iran's population and energy consumption out into the future, sometime around 2030 they cease being a net energy exporter and become a net energy importer. i.e. The oil they produce domestically will not be enough to supply their domestic energy needs, though they may be able to stave that off for a decade or two by increasing oil production. I dropped my opposition to their nuclear program when I figured that out.

      On a meta level, due to the inexorable march of technological progress, it is inevitable that rogue nations and eventually terrorist organizations will get nukes. We've been trying to keep the genie in the bottle all this time - that's what all these sanctions and inspections of the nuclear plants in Iran and North Korea are about. But eventually it's going to get out. We need to come up with plans for how to deal with that genie once it gets out of the bottle if we want to survive as a species. Otherwise every petty disagreement we have is going to escalate into a city being nuked.

    2. Re:interesting application by tacokill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The market would be more accessible to Iran if they would quit openly calling for the complete annihilation of Isreal. Stuff like that rightfully makes other nations skeptical of their intentions.

    3. Re:interesting application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do not have an inherent right to force other people to trade with you.

      Deciding on good foreign policy is more complicated than enumerating everyone's rights and defaulting to the status quo. It's our responsibility to make a good one, and our guilt if we are cruel, unneighborly, or crass in a foreign policy because democracy.

      I think when you talk about "rights" you have internalized too much of the authoritarian, non-democratic governance that we actually have in practice.

    4. Re:interesting application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they don't want to trade with you, it is their right not to trade with you.

      Well, do you think "they" should be individuals, or countries? If you want to trade with Cubans, should you be allowed to? If not, why not?

      As long as US is cozy with the infinitely worse Saudi Arabia - and yes, they're worse as a long-term threat to Israel too - all arguments for a blockade sound hollow.

    5. Re:interesting application by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Exactly. It's the open hostilities to neighboring countries and support for or actually participating in terrorism and terrorist activities that keep the sanctions in place.

    6. Re:interesting application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...openly calling for the complete annihilation of Israel.

      Where's the factually incorrect mod when you need it?

      Yes, mostly not being Jewish, they're opposed to having a country in their neighborhood that has discrimination against people who aren't Jewish as one of it's founding principles. But Iran is not calling for complete annihilation of Israel, either. For example, it would be more than enough for Israel to simply renounce all discrimination against people who aren't Jewish (ideally also changing the name of Israel to something less discriminatory) and to grant full citizenship to refugees and their families who have been forced off their land over the last half century or so.

    7. Re:interesting application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the same bullshit spouted by the Castro government in Cuba.

      Yes, and seeing how the CIA actually succeeded before in Iran and also failed in Cuba...

      All your imaginary talk about how economies work is 100% bullshit.

      Guess what dipshit?

      You do not have an inherent right to force other people to appoint your pre-chosen leaders.

      Get that through your fucking head. Jesus fucking christ, what a stupid fucking moron you are.

      Hypocrite much, do you?

      If Cuba or Iran took Obama or W. out and shoved someone else in his place, what would the U.S. response be?

      Turn the other cheek?

      You are just spouting bullshit about things you have no fucking clue about.

      Noone has to follow your pretend "leaders" who can't win fair elections.
      Noone has to bow down to your charade "revolutions" that are U.S. gov. orchestrated and financed.

      Any other double standards you have? How much more bullshit is there inside you?

      Let it out now, so you don't look like a complete fucking moron in the future.

    8. Re:interesting application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, British oil companies asking for CIA assistance have nothing to do with Iran's economy...

      And the Bay of Pigs never happened...

      In bullshit Solandri land, we just pretend shit that doesn't support our bullshit never actually happened.

      How is life like, living inside your own asshole?

      Is it a good economy in there? Lots of shit, I hear.

      I'm sorry you have a surplus of bullshit inside yourself, but I'm not buying it.

      You will have to find someone else to unload on.

      See? That is how economies actually work -- I don't have to buy any of your bullshit.

    9. Re:interesting application by towermac · · Score: 1

      I had thought of that, and thought I was crazy.

      Change the name to Palestine.

      Instant peace?

    10. Re:interesting application by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      I love how you totally neglect to mention the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran (its correct name) is a functioning fascist theocracy. It is ruled by Muslim religious leaders. That's why it's so wildly unpopular worldwide. That's why young people need VPNs to get out to the world.

      Maybe this is all a message from the world to Iran that they need to change their thinking. Being trade embargoed is like putting a child in time-out. What did you do wrong, and why are you in time-out? Stop calling the other children The Great Satan (seriously, that's their official name for USA in official government reports).

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  7. de jure? by DumbSwede · · Score: 1

    Of the day? Howabout "de rigueur" required.

    1. Re:de jure? by Dominare · · Score: 1

      No, you're thinking of 'du jour', which is indeed French for 'of the day' and isn't the same thing.

    2. Re:de jure? by rea1l1 · · Score: 1

      de jure - "according to law; by right"

      Many say the United States has been a "de facto" power since the civil war, meaning that they are the government in fact, but also meaning that they are not the government "by right", as military force was and is used against the people to assert control.

      In other words, NOT "for the people, by the people".

    3. Re:de jure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US Constitution does not provide a legal framework for States to succeed unilaterally (except for Texas, but they played that card and lost during the civil war). If the States wish it to be so they can amend the Constitution to provide that framework. Any succession during the Civil War was "de facto" and was never "de jure". The states were legally still part of the union even while in open rebellion. Texas is an interesting case as if they had not joined the confederate rebellion they could have succeeded free and clear as per the agreement that made them part of the union. Once they became conquered lands, that right was extinguished.

    4. Re:de jure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      auto correct is a bitch. Secede, secession, as appropriate, etc.

  8. Selective Prosecution of Ordinary Behavior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is an excellent example of criminalization of ordinary behavior enabling selective prosecution.

    A good example would be traffic laws (everywhere).

    Or, for a US specific example: the official who was convicted of leaking that NKorea would be unhappy with sanctions... as compared to the official who just leaked that we were going to retake Mosul.

  9. Young girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they let men marry young girls.
    Not like feminist cuntries.

    Wish russia allowed it too.

  10. nothing new by wm2810 · · Score: 1

    It was like that in the communist countries too. Jammers were working all the time, but radios with full shortwave bands, precision tuning, double/triple conversion were cheap and freely available making the jamming ineffective.

  11. The younger generation will eventually rule! by BoRegardless · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Christian Amanpour, a journalist, who visited her young relatives in Iran when journalists could finally return to Iran, talked with young relatives. She noted those young people just wanted to finish their education and get jobs, homes and families just like their relative who were in Europe; who they communicate with using VPNs, of course.

    The young people in Iran are generally sharp and educated (more on VPNs than US kids) and they will eventually change Iran. Even the top leader recently noted they need to break up the monopolies in Iran (read controlled by the Republican Guard) so more innovation and business activity can grow & create more jobs.

    Right now, many women in Iran, given half a chance, escape to Europe and never come back. Iran will change whether the Mullahs like it or not.

    1. Re:The younger generation will eventually rule! by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      American sanctions and persecution keep the religious hardliners in power in Iran. Just like they kept the Communists in power in Cuba. We turned China into a capitalist "Western" country (just like us) using trade and open borders, there is no reason it won't work in Iran.

    2. Re:The younger generation will eventually rule! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... turned China into a capitalist ...

      China remedied the fault of communism by deregulating supply; thus building small-scale, grass-roots capitalism. By contrast, Russia tried to remedy communism by deregulating management, employment and some investment; thus emphasizing the inability of controlled pricing to respond to the demand-supply cycle.

    3. Re:The younger generation will eventually rule! by dj245 · · Score: 1

      American sanctions and persecution keep the religious hardliners in power in Iran. Just like they kept the Communists in power in Cuba. We turned China into a capitalist "Western" country (just like us) using trade and open borders, there is no reason it won't work in Iran.

      Same as North Korea. And the US to some extent. You need a big bad enemy to keep people distracted from the real problems.

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  12. Profit? That's unmarxist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expect Obama to act soon.

  13. Could be a trap by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 1

    I remember someone who had learned Arabic in Syria saying that the Syrian government had method where they would loosen controls for a few years so that they could get info on people, then crack down.

  14. VPN is not useful for avoiding accountability by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    Gov't locks down everything so the only way you can get to where you want to go is by VPN.
    Pay for it and you say "Ha! I got around your firewall".
    Govt supplies it for free and you say "WTF?! You're issuing internet licenses and spying on me!"

    VPN's have useful purposes--getting past (some) firewalls, pretending you're somewhere you're not, protecting your privacy from a *casual* snoop.
    As long as you don't *really* care about getting caught doing whatever it is you're doing, a VPN is just fine.
    If what you're doing can get you put in the pokey for the next 20 years, you better find a different way to do it!

    Don't assume the people running the VPN server have your interests in at heart and don't assume you know who they are (or aren't).
    And you're helping pay for their operations!

    BTW, I'm using a vpn right now for the second purpose--to pretend i'm in the UK.
    For some reason, you can only get a website that sells certain bizzare chocolates (and bronze, glass, or silver items of the similar design) from within the UK. I showed it to my wife; she was NOT amused...

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  15. Unclear on the concept of a 'honeypot' by kheldan · · Score: 1

    I think that apparently young Iranians don't understand the concept of a 'honeypot'. The Iranian government is probably keeping close track of them, and will pounce on them at the appropriate time.

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  16. Just because Iran has a law ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... doesn't mean they really give a shit.

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  17. No government "allows" profits... by WCMI92 · · Score: 1

    Governments don't "allow" profits (or losses), what they do is either respect PRIVATE PROPERTY and private financial transactions or they don't.

    If VPN's in an islamic Tyranny like Iran are profitable and being allowed to remain open it can only be because they either fear the consequences of shuttering them, or (much more likely) the people profiting from them are too well connected to the Mad Mullahs that run Iran to be shut down.

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