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The Imitation Game Fails Test of Inspiring the Next Turings

reifman writes In 'The Imitation Game': Can This Big Fat Cliche Win Best Picture?, reviewer Monica Guzman blasts the film for distorting history and missing the opportunity to inspire today's tech savvy, highly surveilled generation to follow in Turing's path: Instead of an inventor, it shows a stereotype. Instead of inspiring us to follow in the footsteps of a person who shaped technology, the film inspires us only to get out of the way of the next genius who can. The Imitation Game changed aspects of the real Alan Turing's personality to conform more closely to our idea of the solitary nerd. It falls in line with the tired idea that only outcasts could love computers...As for explaining the science behind Turing's code-breaking machine, the movie doesn't bother. if invention doesn't deserve top billing in this story, where the technology at its heart is not only historically significant but hugely resonant in our lives today, then I don't know where it would. The message of the movie is that the uncommon man can do amazing things, but the message we need is that the common man, woman, anybody can and should tinker with the technology that manages our whole world.

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  1. Inventor of fire burned at the stake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The "common man" resembles nothing as much as a crab bucket, each one clamoring to pull the top crabs back down into the pile.

    The common man never did anything, the inventor and the creator did.

    Typical review by a millenial hispanic woman.

  2. common man by itzly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the message we need is that the common man, woman, anybody can and should tinker with the technology that manages our whole world.

    Why ? One genius can do more on his own than a thousand mediocre people together.

    1. Re:common man by sneakyimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The OP sounds like a great recipe for a terrible fucking movie. And yes, no ordinary person could have done what Turing did. Just comprehending his papers is a struggle -- even for such intellectual titans as myself.

    2. Re:common man by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The single genius can do very little without the shoulders of the thousands that do the drudgery to stand upon.

    3. Re:common man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Score 5, Funny

    4. Re:common man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes there is-- we elect them all the time.

      Some people are stronger than others, some are smarter, some have a fundamental understanding of computation (Turing) or electricity (Tesla) that the rest of us simply do not have-- This idea that we all *HAVE* to be equal is insane-- we should recognize, and celebrate, our differences. I would no more want Stephen Hawking to build my next house than I would want Usain Bolt to design a CPU for my next computer.

      Humans are genuinely an amazing animal... but to claim that all humans are above average is to demonstrate a fundamental lack of awareness of both math, and humanity.

    5. Re:common man by guises · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Indeed. I'm not as smart as Turing was, so he must have been a fuckin' genius. No living human could ever hope to match him. Basically a god.

      And what could a thousand mewling peasants hope to accomplish next to that? A thousand ditches dug? A thousand burgers served? Worthless. Every one of those pathetic normals going through their lives like automatons, without a thought in their heads for how *this* burger is just a little bit different from *that* burger and needs a shred of extra care if the customer is going to enjoy their meal. Or the foresight to see that the grass obscures the ditch in this spot and someone might fall in without a safety cone there to mark it. Or the desire to go home and finish writing that song that will never get played on the radio. How could a thousand such insignificant people with their simple trivial little projects compare to just one singer who gets in the top 40, and who you've actually heard of?

    6. Re:common man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you talking about? The vast majority of politicians are highly-educated, often with many academic awards, and also usually wealthy (many times by their own efforts).

      They may seem mediocre because of the specious reasoning they give for their policies. This is an illusion created by your own credulity: you believe they are motivated by a statesman-like desire to serve the greater good. In fact, they are motivated by a very selfish desire to acquire and exercise power, and also to acquire great wealth (while empowering their political allies to do the same). They often lie in order to justify policies that accomplish this.

      And they are very good at it.

    7. Re:common man by GauteL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Others have failed to mention the peasants that worked the land that not only fed Mozart but kept Mozart's patrons wealthy enough to support the arts by commissioning Mozart's works, or indeed made it possible for all Mozart's spectators to enjoy arts rather than spend the day doing subsistence farming themselves. Without them, all arts we'd have would be able to sustain is the odd folk singing after a hard day's work.

      Others have mentioned the craftsmen that made his instruments, but also keep in mind the folk that made and gathered paper, ink and quills he used to write his music. Or even the millions of ordinary people of his past that helped shape the language he used, without which it would be impossible to sustain human civilization.

      Thus Mozart, stood on the shoulders of millions of completely ordinary folk.

      The lesson here; next time you believe the bullshit of "self-made man" and "I didn't receive no help from nobody", think of what steps are actually necessary for the life we live today.

  3. Be the person you want to be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I saw the movie. Don't tell me what to think it means, clowns.

  4. Re:Reviewer totally missed the point by sneakyimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sort of. The Allies probably would have won anyway due to a preponderance of economic strength. However, the impact of the code-breaking was truly profound and it's hard to overstate its importance. The US naval war in the Pacific -- in particular the Battle of Midway -- was an especially stark illustration of the advantage that intel brings. The Allies located the Japanese fleet and got their planes in the air first and essentially crippled the Japanese navy for the duration of the war. Information brings tremendous power in warfare.

  5. Re:Reviewer totally missed the point by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's been estimated that Turing's work saved about 2 million lives. Anyone else have a greater claim to fame?

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  6. Re:The movie got four things right! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are the stories I want to see

    "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." - Mark Twain.

    Telling such a complex story in 90 minutes is not trivial. All dramatizations require fictional mechanisms that leave certain things out and include other things. I will bet that even those wikipedia entries you describe are incomplete, self-serving, and miss the truth by varying degrees. It's OK. Stories are how we pass along meaning. An exact 1:1 match with reality is not desirable, nor does it make it more likely that the viewer will come away with understanding. And devotion to the precise truth will definitely not make for indelible absorption of meaning.

    If someone saw The Imitation Game and learned of Turing and then went on to maybe read a book or look him up online, then it's done its job. People who are not curious enough to do that will probably not be harmed by being told a good story.

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  7. Re:The problem by geezer+nerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Turing was gay and he was on of the few British that actually did anything in the early computer field. That's why we hear about him, not because of his accomplishments, which were few and unimportant.

    If his accomplishments were so unimportant, then why is the preeminent award in computing named for him? And why are his papers used as the foundation for much of Computer Science?

    And if you think the British were little active in the early days of computing, I suggest you go and study your history better.

  8. Re:Different Agenda by Rob+Y. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your loaded use of "Gay agenda", aside, you're actually right. The writer of this movie sees it as a much needed apology to a brilliant man (are you denying that?) who made an enormous contribution to the war effort (are you denying that?) that happend to contain the seeds of the computer revolution we now all take for granted (are you denying that?). And after all that was persecuted by his government and essentially driven to suicide. Apologies are probably in order, no?

    So what's the Gay agenda here - not to torture people for who they are?

    The original article bemoans the way technology is (or is not) presented in the film. And it has a point - but it's beside the point. Yes, this film was made to teach us some history (more accurate, one might argue, than the history in "American Sniper"), but mostly to elevate a man who deeply deserves to be known and appreciated. And there was some interesting history in there anyway - about the weak link in the German messages that allowed the code to be broken, and about the way the army sometimes held back on what it had intercepted (at the cost of lives) in order to keep secret what they knew. It just wasn't history of technology. Sorry - different film.

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