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Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons
An anonymous reader writes Following polling on Linus Torvald's Google+ page, he's decided to make the next kernel version Linux 4.0 rather than Linux 3.20. Linux 4.0 is going to bring many big improvements besides the version bump with there being live kernel patching, pNFS block server support, VirtIO 1.0, IBM z13 mainframe support, new ARM SoC support, and many new hardware drivers and general improvements. Linux 4.0 is codenamed "Hurr durr I'ma sheep."
So, I assume that a bunch of nitwits are going to show up and say that Linux is never going to be used professionally unless they get their naming together. Inevitably GIMP will be brought up as another example. (And perhaps even GNU.)
Being that I work with distributors and customers from different nations I occasionally encounter people with not only names that are mildly funny but even obscene in my native language.
Guess what the professionals do? They don't give a shit about the name because if you let the name of something have an impact on your decisions then your choices will be limited by them and that itself is highly unprofessional.
Fancy names and shiny appearance is marketing tools to hide whatever is under the hood. Don't let that deceive you.
No, it's the kernel. systemd is a crap load of applications. Applications that ignore stderr, drop higher priority syslog messages, and ignores nonzero exit statuses.
What the fuck is up with you trolls repeating these stupid lies?
systemd may or may not have problems, but it demonstrably does not "ignore stderr, drop higher priority syslog messages, [or] ignore nonzero exit statuses".
If it does, or ever has done, any of these things where is the fucking bug report.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
"It's called Linux 4.0."
How's that?
Already some versions of Linux has been everything from Lucid Lynx to Trust Tahr. Windows is technically Chicago, isn't it?
And, sorry, but my software on my desktop at the moment consists of Xibo, Google, Putty, Audacity, GIMP, MonkeyJam, Scratch, GLPI (colloquially known as "gloopy"), and numerous others. And I work in a very posh independent school. This is what the kids see every day. Are the school bothered? No.
If you're put off by the name, use the version number like everyone else. And if your CIO doesn't allow you to deploy something because of a nickname, yet it fulfills all your business purposes and doesn't have the name visible ANYWHERE, he's an idiot.
"it does not respect the UNIX way of doing things" IS a valid technical argument.
No, even if they fix the problems he listed, it would still be a monolithic blob of half assed code, all strung together in a take-it-all-or-leave-it package.
Thankfully I don't suffer Debian, and systemd I can leave it.
Even if those "technical arguments" are lies?
Seriously -- there are no reliable reports of systemd doing what these anonymous trolls report it as doing.
One of the advances of systemd is that it does log stderr from processes it starts, so some clown has decided to complain that it doesn't.
There are no reliable reports of this behaviour -- it's all a bunch of AC posts on Slashdot plus one on Reddit (which was immediatley refuted), plus a few paranoid claims about bug reports being "deleted". How do you delete a bug report from bugzilla? You can't.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
Seriously?
The GP posts a straight out lie, some moron mods it "interesting".
I point out that it is a lie. I get moderated "flamebait".
Even if you hate systemd, try to beat it with facts. If you start to base your arguments on verifiable lies we begin to doubt your sanity.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
Big step from 3.19: No
Same work as 3.20: Yes
The reference point is 3.0. Kernel development is now 'inline' (as opposed to the old even=release, odd=development system). That means the minor number just gets bigger and bigger, and the kernel gets further and further away from what 3.0 was.
This means at somepoint one should bump the major version number; the question is when? Linus has the answer for this: Basically when the minor number gets asthetically displeasing to him, he'll bump the major number and start the minor number again at 0.
One might ask what will Linus do when the major number gets too big (e.g. >20) ?
Others might ask, why don't they just use a year/calendar based version number? Like Ubuntu does.
Most Unix stuff doesn't follow the Unix "way of doing things"...
Wake up, this is the real world...
Not yet, but the as the kdbus is now submitted to lkml, it can be used as a trojan horse to sneak the rest of systemd into kernel. And before one gets to hit the preview-button, systemd has likely assimilated at least X11, emacs and other essential parts of any init system into it.
"it does not respect the UNIX way of doing things" IS a valid technical argument.
What pray tell is the UNIX way of doing things?
I have been using Unix (BSD, Ultrix, Tru64, AIX, SunOS, IRIX, HPUX, Solaris, SCO (when they were the good guys) and others) for over 35 years and what you have just said would get you laughed out of a design meeting.
There ain't no such thing as proprietary standards only proprietary formats. Standards are by definition open.
modding is the ONLY tactic they have left, all the so called "serious" issues raised have been shot to pieces. its now just a tirade of red herrings, lies and personal insults coming from the gutter because they don't like systemd
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