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In Florida, Secrecy Around Stingray Leads To Plea Bargain For a Robber

schwit1 writes The case against Tadrae McKenzie looked like an easy win for prosecutors. He and two buddies robbed a small-time pot dealer of $130 worth of weed using BB guns. Under Florida law, that was robbery with a deadly weapon, with a sentence of at least four years in prison. But before trial, his defense team detected investigators' use of a secret surveillance tool, one that raises significant privacy concerns. In an unprecedented move, a state judge ordered the police to show the device — a cell-tower simulator sometimes called a StingRay — to the attorneys. Rather than show the equipment, the state offered McKenzie a plea bargain. Today, 20-year-old McKenzie is serving six months' probation after pleading guilty to a second-degree misdemeanor. He got, as one civil liberties advocate said, the deal of the century.

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  1. About right by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    6 months probation is about right for what he did anyway. I can't believe they're clogging prisons with petty criminals like this then turning violent criminals out because of over crowding. A BB gun as a deadly weapon? They're turning the legal system into a farce with that kind of bullshit.

    1. Re:About right by jpapon · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Seriously... what's the point of putting someone in prison for four years for that? If anything a sentence like that is just as likely to turn them to harder, more violent crime than rehabilitate them.

      It makes much more sense to give first time offenders for stupid crimes like this a year of probation, a significant amount of community service, and forced enrollment in some sort of vocational school / work program.

      You don't reform people by making them sit on their asses for four years talking to other criminals. You reform them by putting them to useful work.

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    2. Re:About right by manwargi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      High recidivism is good for shareholders in privatized prisons. This is a system that profits more from harsher sentences and more prisoners, not fewer.

    3. Re: About right by dasunt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't consider the threat of being shot and then having your property taken a violent crime? The fact the weapon turned out to not be able to shoot bullets doesn't matter, nor should it.

      Assume a criminal has either the choice of a BB gun or a regular gun to commit a crime with.

      In scenario A, the BB gun is considered a lesser offense than robbing someone with a regular firearm.

      In scenario B, the BB gun is considered the same as robbing someone with a regular gun.

      Under which scenario do you assume that more people are held up with weapons that are actually capable of killing them? In which scenario are more crime victims shot?

      Being tough on crime sounds good, but it can have unintended consequences.

    4. Re:About right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So armed robbery is a crime you feel just fine letting someone out with a slap on the wrist? This is a violent crime (threatened deadly force), not a victimless crime like smoking that pot. This kind of action that is unacceptable. You may not prey on other members of society. If you do you are going to be removed from society for a long time.

      It is not important that he got only $120 in pot. He could have robbed someone that had nothing and gotten nothing, would that mean he did nothing wrong? It is not important that he only had a BB gun; He wanted the victim to think it was real and his life was under threat.

      Violent crime must be punished and this guy did get one hell of a deal because the cops don't want to disclose their actions. Keep in mind that this man who committed a violent crime (allegedly) is still able to buy and own a real gun with this misdemeanor on his record. Kind of makes a mockery of the law doesn't it.

  2. Call your congressman by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Call your congressman and ask them why they're using illegal surveillance tools to let criminals get away.

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