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YouTube Kids Launches On Android and iOS

An anonymous reader writes As expected, YouTube today launched YouTube Kids for Android and iOS, described as a "family-friendly destination" and "the first Google product built from the ground up with little ones in mind." You can download the new app for free, available only in the U.S., directly from Google Play and Apple's App Store. The app's main selling point is that it only has content deemed appropriate for kids. In other words, the pitch to parents is very simple: This app will ensure that your kids can watch videos posted online without stumbling on clips you wouldn't want them to see.

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  1. Hmmm ... by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This app will ensure that your kids can watch videos posted online without stumbling on clips you wouldn't want them to see.

    Does this include ads?

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    1. Re:Hmmm ... by wikthemighty · · Score: 2

      Of course - kid friendly ones! ;)

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    2. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and no comments, presumably.

    3. Re:Hmmm ... by jc42 · · Score: 2

      How about "product placement"? ;-)

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    4. Re:Hmmm ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Of course not. TFS is inaccurate, the threshold is what you are willing to tolerate to distract the little buggers for five minutes so you can have some peace. Commercial children's TV channels suggest adults will tolerate advertising to their kids if it keeps them occupied.

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    5. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeings as where most of the ads I see on YouTube are for auto insurance I guess this just doesn't fit the target audience.

    6. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's probably all it applies to, as they'll quickly lose control of the pedophile community that will descend upon this service.

    7. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about "product placement"? ;-)

      I'd guess that depends on how subtle it is. If it's pretty clear the content is an ad, it won't be allowed.

    8. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that ads are targeted to the viewer right? If I binge watch a bunch of chemistry lectures I get ads for lab equipment.

    9. Re:Hmmm ... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You do know that ads are targeted to the viewer right? If I binge watch a bunch of chemistry lectures I get ads for lab equipment.

      Well how come I keep getting ads for butt plugs and cheerleader outifits then?

      Oh...

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    10. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just downloaded this (Tuesday 1pm CST) it does in fact have ads. It also includes the button for "this ad can be skipped in ..".

  2. Questionable ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awesome. Is it going to stop showing my daughters weight loss ads before clips from Frozen and My Little Pony?

  3. Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by wikthemighty · · Score: 2

    My 6 year old daughter does pretty good with YouTube, but there have been plenty of incidents like going from Barbie: Life in the Dreamhouse to kids playing "Bobbie & Ricky" where Ricky has been kidnapped and tied up "because that's my kind of love!" which crosses the border a bit. I'll definitely be giving this app a shot.

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    1. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

      A few years ago when my son was a toddler, he really loved Thomas the Train. He loved watching Thomas the Train clips from the show, people opening new toy packages, etc. One day I heard curse words coming from the iPhone. I grabbed the phone and it was a video of kids filming their own Thomas show with their toys and they were swearing at each other like sailors. That started the "No YouTube Rule" which has been in effect for several years. :)

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    2. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Helicopter parent in action. Dont censor, instead teach them why it is not desirable to do such a thing.

    3. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 1

      Thomas the Train? wth? I thought it was Thomas the Tank Engine. *checks* Yeah, according to wikipedia, Thomas the Tank Engine is the name.

      Is this another one of those Where's Wally vs Where's Waldo things? o_O

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    4. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a prude.

    5. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Thomas the Train? wth? I thought it was Thomas the Tank Engine. *checks* Yeah, according to wikipedia, Thomas the Tank Engine is the name.

      Is this another one of those Where's Wally vs Where's Waldo things? o_O

      Thomas the Tank Engine is the illegitimate offspring of Ivor the Engine.

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    6. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parenting advice on the internet: It worked for my subset of all children, therefore it must work for the set of all children.

    7. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Serenissima · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, he does have a point. When my son was two, we did have some very deep philosophical conversations about moral relativism. I'm sure I could have just explained why he shouldn't shout out "SHIT", even though it made people laugh. He totally would have understood.

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    8. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

      I will believe you on that. I did learn that there's only so many hours of animated trains that you can watch as an adult before your brain starts to melt. I am glad I have excised the knowledge as much as I already have! :)

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    9. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

      Well, I do enjoy watching videos of other people's kids swearing. It can be pretty cute when they violate social norms they're not aware of. But wow, when it's YOUR kid, it becomes much less funny and much more socially embarrassing.

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    10. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by tepples · · Score: 1

      Would the child have understood "This word is for the potty"? When the child uses a bathroom word, try giving the child a time out in the bathroom.

    11. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      This, so much of this.

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    12. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Serenissima · · Score: 1
      I'm sure he would have understood that. And then he would have gone around telling us, his grandparents, and anyone else that he had to shit. How would you describe the words Fuck, or Bitch? :D

      Besides, when he was a little older and more aware of appropriateness, we had a better discussion about which words are appropriate to say in public. It was a much better way to handle it.

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    13. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some Barbie videos on YT are highly inappropriate for children, and they'll be linked to those that are because the same doll toy is being used and labeled. You have to be very careful what they're looking it, because the same prancing doll toy story may actually be sexually explicit.

    14. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by tepples · · Score: 1

      And then he would have gone around telling us, his grandparents, and anyone else that he had to shit.

      If that's the only time the child says "shit", not as an all-purpose swear word, I'd say mission accomplished. And if the child ends up learning "bullshit", you can take the child to a dairy farm.

      How would you describe the words Fuck, or Bitch?

      Be consistent in associating each taboo word with a place, and be honest and logical about this place. "Fuck" is for the bedroom, and "bitch" is for a place that you have associated with dogs. ("Blurred Lines" is about adopting a dog and discovering her arthritis.) This teaches the child that there's a place for everything. You're laying a conceptual foundation that will make it easier for the child to accept later on that school is not the place for some things.

    15. Re: Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by antdude · · Score: 1

      SHIT

      [laugh tracks]

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    16. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thomas the Tank Engine is the illegitimate offspring of Ivor the Engine.

      any idea who the mother is?

    17. Re:Hopefully better than SafeSearch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thomas the Tank Engine is the illegitimate offspring of Ivor the Engine.

      any idea who the mother is?

      Guess they were from the wrong side of the tracks, eh? (boom-boom)

  4. Kid-friendly ads by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are correct. The article in The Guardian states: "The app will be free and funded by advertising, although YouTube says it will be carefully screening ads to ensure they are appropriate for children." If there were no ads, then there would probably be no partner or claimed videos. This would have cut out a lot of YouTube.

    1. Re:Kid-friendly ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they want to be ethical when advertising to kids, they need to limit the number of ads to something less than what adults would normally see.

    2. Re:Kid-friendly ads by tepples · · Score: 1

      A lot of partners and claimants are unwilling to allow a video to be viewed at all unless an ad is presented first. So to limit ad impressions to fewer than what an adult would see, the app would have to limit the total number of video views fewer than what an adult would see. This would tie into the time limit feature.

    3. Re:Kid-friendly ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I base my comment on: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/childrens-educational-television
      See: Commercial Time Limitations

  5. How about implementing parental controls on Androi by melted · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How about implementing parental controls on Android instead? I can't give my kid an Android phone or tablet, because it's not possible to disable Youtube on it, and Youtube is full of garbage.

  6. Simply a good idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both my kids use YouTube and I do try to monitor what they watch. This will certainly ease my mind regarding what they will be linked to from an original video and also only list child-friendly content.

  7. Teaching them young by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    to grow up on media consumption devices in their hands. That's gonna be some socially inept generations coming up.

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    1. Re:Teaching them young by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Yeah but that's gonna be the norm at the time.
      Think of it this way: when I grew up, everyone was playing ball and running around while I was reading serous books and tinkering with science. I was the weirdo. When my kid will grow up, everyone will live inside their mobile device or VR and my kid will want to play ball and run around. He's gonna be the weirdo.
      Normal kids are not what we think normal is or should be.

      With that being said, my kid thoroughly enjoys playing golf and memory match on his laptop as well as playing ball outside and running around. I'm balancing his life the best I can, trying not to slide towards any of the extremes.

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    2. Re:Teaching them young by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes because no other generation ever consumed media while growing up.

    3. Re:Teaching them young by future+assassin · · Score: 1

      Not in this way with two huge corporations bescially in control of their lives.

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  8. Who decides what's appropriate? by grimmjeeper · · Score: 1

    As with so many "kid friendly" things, I have to wonder what the threshold is for varying types of content and who decides it's appropriate.

    If it's like anything else, what they block and, more importantly, what they show is probably motivated more by religiousness and/or political correctness than by an honest assessment of what's appropriate for kids. I'm sure they'll block plenty of things that are just fine for kids while exposing them to all kinds of stuff they probably shouldn't be exposed to. But I'm sure the sucker moms... sorry, soccer moms who are too busy driving around with a latte in one hand and a makeup brush in the other will be happy to have yet another consumer device to plug their kid into so they don't have to be bothered to actually be a parent.

    1. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Not only that but there are differing ages (and social/emotional ages) that will vary what is appropriate. If my 11 year old wants to view a video, it might be appropriate for him, but it might not be appropriate for my 7 year old. Furthermore, my 7 year old might be able to watch something that wouldn't be good for a 5 year old to view.

      My ideal method of YouTube parental controls would be parentally set white lists. I would be to say that Channel X is allowed for this child, Channel Y is allowed for both children, and Channel Z isn't allowed (by being left off the white list).

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    2. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is ... not everyone has the same values. Some would say that religious videos should be viewed by children, and others think religious videos should be blocked. Same for any number of topics. There is no least common denominator. Including or excluding a category of videos could be important to some people. But Google isn't saying what kind of parent they will be. What they are saying is "Trust us."

    3. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure they'll block plenty of things that are just fine for kids while exposing them to all kinds of stuff they probably shouldn't be exposed to.
       
      Care to expand on this? It sounds like complaining just for the virtue of hearing yourself talk.

    4. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How fucking stupid can you be? The argument makes plenty of sense. Get your fucking head out of your shit tube fuckface.

    5. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by grimmjeeper · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they'll block plenty of things that are just fine for kids while exposing them to all kinds of stuff they probably shouldn't be exposed to. Care to expand on this? It sounds like complaining just for the virtue of hearing yourself talk.

      I'm not sure if you're slow on the uptake or deliberately obtuse. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and amplify my point.

      There is no shortage of people who want to manipulate what children are exposed to in order to indoctrinate them to a particular way of thinking. Pick any topic that even hints at controversial and you'll find people on both sides who desperately want to coerce young minds to their point of view. Churches would love to see kids raised to be unquestioning zombies showing up to donate to the collection plate. Moral majority types want to force feed the next generation all kinds of false information about "the dangers of straying from the path of righteousness" (my paraphrasing). But it's not just the political right that is foaming at the mouth to indoctrinate kids. Other people want to cram every kid's heads full of questioning gender identity. Radical environmentalism (rather than reasonable conservation) is shoved down kid's throats at every opportunity. The whole "no winners or losers" type self esteem crap (which I don't think is necessarily left or right wing, just stupid) is also propagated at every opportunity.

      In my not so humble opinion, none of this kind of nonsense indoctrination is appropriate for children yet they're bombarded with it every single day. Kids grow up with a complete misunderstanding of how the real world works and are not prepared to deal with life because they were wrongly shielded from the things they needed to be exposed to as well as having their heads filled with all kinds of nonsense they should have been shielded from.

    6. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by grimmjeeper · · Score: 1

      That's all well and good but there's far too many parents out there who won't put forth the effort to be involved in parenting their kids. They just want someone to hand them a "kid safe" thing so they can feel better about themselves while they plug their kid in and don't have to deal with it any more. Making a "kid safe" Youtube probably won't actually be kid safe and it certainly won't motivate parents to be more involved in keeping track of what their kids watch. It simply fails to solve the problem. But when it comes to lazy parents, there's likely nothing that can really be done in the real world to solve that problem. These parents will send their kids off to the "kid safe" youtube and pat themselves on the back for being responsible parents when in all reality, the kids are no better off than before this showed up.

    7. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Amazing+Proton+Boy · · Score: 1

      The app is clearly for little kids under 5-6. The "security" lock to keep kids out of the settings is a simple 4 digit pin that is shown on screen but only in words. It literally says "Enter three, five, eight, four". If your kids can read then this isn't the app for them.

    8. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      True. In my case, I want to introduce my kids to YouTube gradually. Start with a selection of video sources that I know are appropriate. Then, slowly expand the offerings while discussing how that video that seems to feature that cartoon character they love is probably not really appropriate since the title is "Bugs Bunny F****s Elmer Fudd" and thus should be avoided. However, my only options at this point are a) block all of YouTube (works in the short term but eventually they will have access away from my block - my oldest already can access it at school), b) hover over them at all moments (again, not possible), or c) allow them unfettered access to YouTube and hope that they understand when I say some of the content isn't appropriate. In essence, I can either keep them out of the pool or toss them in the deep end. It would be nice if there was a "YouTube shallow end" that I could set up.

      (I actually thought about doing this, but don't have the programming skills at the moment to make Android apps or the free time to devote to this project.)

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    9. Re:Who decides what's appropriate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if you're slow on the uptake or deliberately obtuse. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and amplify my point.

      There is no shortage of people who want to manipulate what children are exposed to in order to indoctrinate them to a particular way of thinking.

      Churches would love to see kids raised to be unquestioning zombies showing up to donate to the collection plate.

      heh ... I see what you did there!

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  9. YouTube for Education by trazom28 · · Score: 1

    Is the plan to replace YouTube for Education with this? YTE never quite worked right, and the filtering YT offers itself blocks content randomly, almost laughable sometimes at what it deems objectionable.

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  10. Re:How about implementing parental controls on And by duranaki · · Score: 1

    I'd suggest looking into user profiles, which you can use for your kids and hand select the apps you want them to be able to use (like YouTube Kids: YES, YouTube: NO). I'm guessing you'd want Chrome/Browser disabled also. If you think Youtube is full of garbage, you should check out this whole internet thing. I think this only works for Android Tablets, though (as of 4.2 I think). They added user accounts for 5.0 for phone, but not the limited profiles part.

  11. Re:How about implementing parental controls on And by stephanruby · · Score: 1

    There are many free apps that do that kind of thing.

    Also if you have a non-nexus Samsung, or a non-nexus LG device, that are at least one year old, you have that functionality that is already baked into their customized ROM. The only thing is that LG doesn't call their functionality parental control, they call it 'Guest mode' instead which is actually really good because the way it's triggered, through a different unlock pattern or a different unlock pin, your guest has actually no idea he's using 'Guest mode' (aside from the missing functionality you chose to leave out).

    So 'Guest mode' also works great for girlfriends/boyfriends, curious passengers borrowing your phone, and overzealous cops, not just kids. It all depends on the way you choose to configure it.

  12. I wonder if it'll filter... by Hsien-Ko · · Score: 1
  13. Gosh darnit! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Won't somebody think of the chil... oh wait.

  14. Re:How about implementing parental controls on And by DigitAl56K · · Score: 1

    While I agree that native parental controls would be great, and as a parent I was also surprised they weren't there, there are apps that you can use to lock down devices quite easily to limit what your kids can access.

    Kids Place is a good one:
    https://play.google.com/store/...

    The bigger problem is no end of "free" games stuffed full of ads that kids accidentally click all the time. IMO Google needs a policy that says if you are marketing to kids under a certain age you may not have certain types of ads (or any ads) in your app. As a parent, I'll gladly give you a couple of bucks to have a "safe" app for my child to use.

  15. Slash-b by VendettaMF · · Score: 1

    And so the countdown to a headline here that contains both the terms "YouTube Kids" and "4chan" begins.

    It'll be a short one.

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  16. Screen time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or perhaps an ability to limit the amount of time.

    My kid will watch videos on Minecraft ALL DAY LONG if I would let him. Not even play the darn game himself, he'd rather just watch others play the game. I've had to disable youtube from the xbox, remove internet from the blueray player all together, and limit his time on the computer, because thats ALL he wanted to do. And the videos always contained a lot of profanity as well. Not so much that I minded him watching 1 video, but hours of profane youtube videos of minecraft. I had enough..

  17. Re:How about implementing parental controls on And by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1

    Never mind parental controls, how about user controls over app permissions? (ie. putting the user and their privacy/security first.)

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  18. Very rudimentary by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

    The parent can't even set their own PIN code. For security they pick four random numbers that change every time. Then they just ask you to punch in the numerals for something like "one eight seven four" and you put in "1874". Unless your kid is really young or really dumb, there's no point.

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    1. Re:Very rudimentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The app is for children 5 and under, which is when the average kid learns to read. So yeah, it's for really young kids.

  19. I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how long it will be before the battle begins as to what is "kid friendly" on this service? I foresee some people are going to start complaining about the most benign things as "appropriate" is highly variable dependent on the individual/culture.. Muslims may complain about a clip showing cooking with pork, Christians will probably whine if some clip shows a woman wearing "traditional" Muslim clothing. Even if limiting the issue to a relatively small region you invariably hit issues, in a single city some people would probably object to a you-tube clip of kids in bathing suits on a beach claiming that its going to give some sickos ideas while at the same time blithely ignoring the same images in a store circular/catalog.

    1. Re:I wonder? by ruir · · Score: 1

      Do it like anything movie, a voluntary rating system for anyone who posts a video, and a moderation system based on strength of numbers.

  20. My Little Pony by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    Will My Little Pony be available on YouTube Kids, or will it continue to just be for adults?

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  21. 5 and under by fulldecent · · Score: 2

    On iOS, this app is labeled for "kids 5 and under". ... so after 5 it's just rickrolling, goatse and downhill from there?

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    1. Re:5 and under by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      given that the four digit pin is written out on the screen so basic literacy is the only control... yeah, that sounds about right.

    2. Re:5 and under by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a fairly accurate description of modern life.

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  22. Here come the armchair parents by OldSport · · Score: 1

    Let me grab some popcorn so I can watch all the people who don't have kids tell the rest of us parents how we should be doing it. Haha

    Anyway, we don't have TV in our house so I let my kid watch a bit of Youtube now and then. She gets maybe two hours a week, maybe more. The frustrating thing has always been the "Youtube Wormhole" where any number of various suggested videos will pop up, and clicking through them can lead to you some odd places, as others have mentioned. It will be nice to know that there is at least SOME sort of "quality control" going on to help keep my kid going through the wormhole.

    As for ads, it's all about teaching your kid what they are from an early age. My kid hates ads almost as much as I do and hits that "skip ad" button with surgical precision when it comes up. It sucks that she's growing up in the advertising age but without TV, and living in a pretty rural area, I think the occasional Youtube ad won't completely destroy her ability to resist consumerist urges.

    1. Re:Here come the armchair parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because not having direct access to or not being directly effected by something negates all opinions that a person may have on a subject. In the same way that people without nuclear materials in their basement should shut up about proliferation or nuclear power. Or people who have not been the direct victims of abuse of authority (beatings, spying, no-knock warrants, kangaroo courts, etc) should keep quiet on the subject until they become a victim. We aren't all segregated into our own little bubbles from birth to death, how you raise your kid DOES effect many others. No doubt that parents should have pretty wide latitude as to how they raise their kids, but moderate third party input can be a good thing in all endeavors. People who are in a particular situation tend to get a tunnel vision on that particular subject.

    2. Re:Here come the armchair parents by OldSport · · Score: 1

      With reason, you're correct. I just remember posting something on here about how I was excited to take my daughter to see The Hobbit when it came out, and some guy basically accused me of being a bad parent for not reading the book with her instead. AFAICT it's usually the people who have no experience raising kids whatsoever who shout the loudest about how terrible a job other people are doing.

      (Personal side-rant: raising kids (properly) is the hardest fucking job you will ever have, period. And that's even when you have a reasonably intelligent and normal kid. You'll be second-guessing and stewing over many decisions you make, when it comes to school, to discipline, just to the way you phrase answers to certain questions. And just when you think you've got it nailed, your kid ages by another year and a whole new set of issues enter the picture. That's why I get annoyed when people without kids get all up in my or other people's shit about it.)

      Anyway, we cool? Starbucks at 5, lattes on me?

    3. Re:Here come the armchair parents by ruir · · Score: 1

      Dont get me started on ads. I already pretty much filter them quite well with osx, and given current PHB and repressive changes in law that seriously affect my right to privacy. I might as well go full tor and try to get around ads at router/firewall level, including youtube. About the contents, I make an effort to turn it to more sane, but it is not easy.

    4. Re:Here come the armchair parents by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Dont get me started on ads. I already pretty much filter them quite well with osx, and given current PHB and repressive changes in law that seriously affect my right to privacy. I might as well go full tor and try to get around ads at router/firewall level, including youtube. About the contents, I make an effort to turn it to more sane, but it is not easy.

      If you really don't want to watch ads, try visiting non advertising funded sites. There's no moral or legal requirement to watch YouTube (or read slashdot).

      Just a thought.

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  23. Family-friendly Destination by brownshoe · · Score: 0

    Given what they are teaching in public schools these days, I'm rather curious as to their definition of "family-friendly destination".

  24. What Could Possibly Go Wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What?

  25. Re:How about implementing parental controls on And by iamacat · · Score: 1

    That's been part of Android for years. Here is one article describing what needs to be done.

  26. Does it solve my main problems? by ruir · · Score: 1

    My profile is already quite "poluted" with kids stuff...my main gripe about youtube are the ads, my kid already knows how to bypass them. My kindgmon for a youtube app that does not show ads!... In my Macs filters cut them out, however not as pratical for the kid as the iPad.

  27. Idea is old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An idea that has already been there for a while, and it is available on both Goole Play and the App Store. It is called "Totstube Free":

    Apple App Store:
    https://appsto.re/us/SRbN4.i

    Google Play:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wodocorp.totstubefree

  28. Forced waiting by tepples · · Score: 1

    YouTube videos also tend to be a lot shorter than segments of children's broadcast television. Compare the 11-minute segments of an animated TV series for children with the 1- to 4-minute YouTube videos. This makes the requirements described in the "Commercial Time Limitations" section more practical to fulfill for broadcast television than for YouTube. For example, a 15-second commercial might be shown before a 45-second video, which would exceed the FCC's 1 to 4 ratio for weekdays, let alone the 1 to 4.7 ratio for weekends. Would you prefer to have the YouTube Kids app just block viewing of partner or claimed videos when the app has displayed too many partner or claimed videos within a 60-minute period? That'd feel like the forced waiting in Candy Crush Saga.

    1. Re:Forced waiting by rdnetto · · Score: 1

      You assume it's necessary to show an ad before every video. If the video isn't long enough to insert an ad after, just don't show one until the next video has been viewed.

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    2. Re:Forced waiting by tepples · · Score: 1

      You assume it's necessary to show an ad before every video.

      If the partner uploader or the Content ID claimant has specified "Do not allow this video to be shown without an advertisement" on a particular video, then it is necessary.

      If the video isn't long enough to insert an ad after, just don't show one until the next video has been viewed.

      That would violate Google's contracts with YouTube partners and Content ID claimants.