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Reddit Imposes Ban On Sexual Content Posted Without Permission

Mark Wilson writes If you want to post naked pictures or videos of people on Reddit without their consent, you only have a couple of weeks to do so. As of March, the site is imposing a ban on content of an explicit nature that the subject has not given permission to be posted. The cleanup of the site comes hot on the heels of news from Google that explicit content will be banned from Blogger. It also comes in the wake of last year's Fappening which saw a glut of naked celebrity photos leaked online.

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  1. Reddit sure loves it's free speech. by Xac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until it tries to uphold it.

    1. Re: Reddit sure loves it's free speech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Free speech means I get to post naked pictures of others without their consent"

      Man, I thought the idea was a bit more noble. Can't get behind that one.

    2. Re:Reddit sure loves it's free speech. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is posting nudes of someone without their permission on a commercial website a free speech issue? It might be a criminal issue, but I'm not sure what aspect of "the government doesn't limit citizen's speech" applies to reddit not wanting to participate in the crime of distributing sexually explicit stolen images.

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    3. Re:Reddit sure loves it's free speech. by jareth-0205 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Until it tries to uphold it.

      In what possible conceivable way is your free speech being curtailed by not allowing you to post stolen nude photos of other people? Some people shout "free speech" at anything. Newsflash cocksucker: your right to self expression does not cover actively harming other people.

  2. Re:verified by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lie and say you have permission?

  3. Re:Slashdot lucks out by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think anyone uploads pictures to Reddit. It's mostly posts linked to imgur.

  4. Re:Only useful if your find yourself by Pfhorrest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The alternative would be that nobody is allowed to post ANYTHING until someone has verified that it is either (1) not nudity/pornography, or else (2) that it comes accompanied with some kind of proof of permission.

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  5. Not surprised by Iamthecheese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reddit's decline started before the censorship of Gamergate. It started before the Something Awful forums invaded SRS and turned it into a joke. It's never was about gender wars. (although some of those events were symptomatic) It was never about politics. (although political vote warring and karma whoring added to the mess.)

    Reddit's decline started the first time legal speech that no one liked was censored. It was an unpopular board. It was a popular decision to ban it despite it not violating rules. I'm not going to name the subreddit that was deleted because which sub it started with is irrelevant.Reddit administration banned a board, signaling that any sufficiently unpopular speech could be removed at will by administration. From that moment those seeking to remove various forms of speech started to work toward influencing admins.

    Some people will applaud this action, saying that no one should have their private pictures posted without their consent. Some people will call this an issue of right to privacy. Those people are misguided.

    When a forum starts to limit legal speech a slowly growing cancer of censorship is inevitable. And don't say, "slippery slope". This has happened over and over and over. It doesn't matter whether people should be posting such pictures. It doesn't matter how distasteful they are. It doesn't matter what intent the poster has. Or how distasteful the poster is. Or the reader. It happened at Digg. It has happened in certain churches. It has happened in Korea. It happened in Russia and China. "It's okay to ban this kind of speech" is never. Never true.

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    1. Re:Not surprised by Iamthecheese · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Free speech isn't just an American's right, it's a human right. Protecting it is necessary for prosperity and freedom whether you're in the US or in North Korea. I never said "Reddit shouldn't do this because it's against the constitution."

      Reddit shouldn't be doing this because it tends to violate an innate human right and because it will destroy Reddit. And since I see you're inclined to take my words out of context I have to say the following: Your next argument would probably be, "yeah right. Posting revenge nudes is a human right" and my reply is this: As I said in my first post, which particular speech is being threatened is irrelevant.

      Censorship is a ball and chain for the soul of man. Whatever the speech in question, the act of censoring it turns the latch that locks the shackle. Whatever the first link, others are added until a great weight is there. And placing that weight on a single family, a forum of millions, or a large and prosperous nation are all immoral.

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    2. Re:Not surprised by jdavidb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reddit shouldn't be doing this because it tends to violate an innate human right and because it will destroy Reddit

      That's Reddit's choice to make, though, right? Just use some other forum.

    3. Re:Not surprised by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Irrelevant. Reddit can do whatever they want in terns of banning, sure, it's their site, but it's not about whether they can, it's about whether they're assholes.

      These days, I don't know where you'd go to discuss unpopular (but legal) topics - even 4chan has been overrun by SJWs.

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    4. Re:Not surprised by Skidborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is slashdot violating a human right by not publishing my cupcake recipes? Isn't that violating my right to free speech? No. Forcing an individual or company to facilitate my speech is not a right, and never has been.

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    5. Re:Not surprised by jklovanc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When a forum starts to limit legal speech a slowly growing cancer of censorship is inevitable. And don't say, "slippery slope".

      Your first sentence is the definition of a "slippery slope" argument. You even used the most obvious word in slippery slope arguments; "inevitable". As the saying goes, "the only two things that are inevitable are death and taxes". Sure there are places where censorship has gotten out of hand but there are many more places where "censorship" has not. For example, Facebook has restrictions on the content of photos.

      You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.

      Do you think because of that they will later censor political speech too? There are lots of sites that restrict sexual content and still have very broad free speech rules.

      So now breakup posts of nude pictures that were sent in strictest confidence at a time of lust and love is now a freedom of speech issue? Sorry but ruining someone else's life because they discovered you are a duchbag and you are mad at them is not protected speech.

      "It's okay to ban this kind of speech" is never. Never true.

      Sorry but we live in a world that is not as black and white as you seem to see it. Some speech needs to be restricted as it causes damage without having any redeeming qualities.

      Denial of free speech is the first act of tyranny.

      It has been but it also has been the first step in the creation of a civil society. Criminalizing libel and slander has caused people to be sure of their facts before speaking. Do you believe that accusing an innocent person of pedophilia is free speech? Accusations like that can ruin people's lives. It is impossible to prove a negative like "He is not a pedophile"? There will always be the possibility that the proof of guilt was just not found. Too many people believe the saying "where there is smoke there is fire". Sometimes it is just someone trying to ruin someone else's life. Absolutes like "Never true" cause more trouble than they solve. We should be very careful what kind of speech we restrict. I believe requiring a release to post sexual content pictures is a valid restriction.

      Everything is about balance. In this case it is the balance between the right to freedom of speech and and the right to privacy. In this specific instance the right to privacy is more important than the ability to post sexual photos of someone else. Your argument that "if they restrict this they will restrict everything" is just absurd.

  6. Bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Better yet, stop pretending your body is some special butterfly that will cause the sky to fall and dogs to make love to cats should somebody actually get a look at it. The whole body paranoia thing is a society wide neurosis. At best. You look very similar to everyone else. The more you take off, the more that's true.

    I'd rather see someone dressed to the max than naked any day, I think probably because it actually tells me something about their self image at the time. It means nothing negative to me to see them naked, and frankly, not a whole lot positive. Meh. Truly.

    Of course, then we have the motivational "gifts" provided by superstition, but I already mentioned neurosis, so...

  7. Re:if you think it's a free speech issue--- by Shados · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its people's reaction to seeing naked pictures of you that are the problem. You can get fired, disqualified from jobs, shunned, and all around your life can become a living hell.

    If you get beat up in a alley, the damage (aside for the psychological damage from the event itself) might go away once the wounds heal. If you're a teacher and students find pictures of you? You potentially can kiss your career (or at least your next promotion) good bye.

    And its one thing if the person allowed the picture to be taken (though even then, but whatever), but a lot of people abuse of positions of trust, and a lot of those pictures are taken without consent. There's a LOT of assholes out there.

  8. Re:Crazy at the helm by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't say doing it once (at least the suit, have no idea or evidence about the affairs) represents a "history". If she sues Reddit next, then I would call it a history. Also, the information I see says that it was not a harassment suit, but a gender discrimination suit. Hard to claim gender discrimination when they make her a CEO. Although I would suspect a guy could probably make a good claim (that would be thrown out because discriminating against males is okay) that Reddit is just hopping on the bandwagon of female CEOs and are thus illegally discriminating based on gender.
    Now, if she is really getting involved in affairs with employees, I might go get me a job at Reddit. She's one hot CEO. I'll get my wife's permission first, or course.

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  9. Re:Crazy at the helm by lucm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was curious about your comment and ended up binge reading stuff about Pao. Based on what I've read, you are spot on.

    Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing.

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  10. What part of "Consent" Don't You Understand? by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I take my stand on the proposition that the publication of nude and/or sexually explicit photographs without the consent of the subject is a form of rape.

    This not art. This is not speech.

    This is humiliation. This is malice. This is revenge. This is greed. This is crime. Revenge porn

    Free speech cannot survive in an atmosphere of fear and intimidation. Free speech has to mean something more than the adolescent's desire for instant sexual self-gratification.

    In the form of an illicit photograph to masturbate by.

    I am sick and tired of the geek playing the censorship card when anyone asks him to behave like an adult.

    1. Re:What part of "Consent" Don't You Understand? by Alrescha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And I take my stand that this is a vile statement that devalues actual rape"

      This. A thousand times this.

      Using a hotword like rape to generate an emotional reaction to support your cause does a disservice to everyone, especially to those who are victims of actual rape.

      A.

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    2. Re:What part of "Consent" Don't You Understand? by argStyopa · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If the picture was taken without consent - ie an upskirt or whatever - then I agree with you.
      If the picture was taken WITH consent, then fuck you.

      Free speech cannot survive if people can retract what they said, and later decide "I didn't mean to say that - you can't tell anyone I said that."

      Same with pictures. If you take a picture of your junk and then send it to someone, you're GIVING them the picture, to do with as they wish. By my view, it's exactly the same as if a company sends you something unsolicited in the mail: it's yours.

      Don't want pictures of your junk floating around the internet? There's a really good way to prevent that: don't take them.

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  11. Re:verified by mvdwege · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should we be happy that these organizations have chosen censorship as a response to abuse?

    Yes. Next question?

    Too be more expansive: If you think that I as a host should not have the right to throw abusive visitors out of a gathering at my place, you're a fucking idiot.

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  12. Re:verified by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should we be happy that these organizations have chosen censorship as a response to abuse?

    1. If it's not government if it's not censorship.
    2. We should not be surprised that these organisations have to limit their liability as a response to abuse by their users.
    3. No, we should not be happy that their users have effectively forced them to do this.

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  13. Re:verified by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    1: Wrong.
    2: There's almost no liability.
    3: The users haven't forced anything.

  14. Re:verified by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    "1. If it's not government if it's not censorship." do you mean "1. If it's not government, it's not censorship."? If so, you are dead wrong. Radio stations censoring songs, TV censoring shows, movie whatever censoring movies even when the law does not say it should be censored. That is censoring even when the mighty, evil government is not doing it.

  15. Re: verified by 2fuf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it was a property issue, shouldn't it then go for all posted pics, sounds, videos, documents etc.?
    They do single out nudity as subject matter.