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Google Reverses Stance, Allows Porn On Blogger After Backlash

mpicpp writes In a reversal, Google says that porn will continue to be allowed on its Blogger site. Google said it has received a big backlash after deciding earlier in the week that bloggers will no longer be able to "publicly share images and video that are sexually explicit or show graphic nudity." The ban was to have taken place on March 23.

Instead, Google said that the company would simply double down on its crackdown of bloggers who use their sites to sell porn.
In July, Google stopped porn from appearing in its online ads that appear on Blogger. And in 2013, Google decided to remove blogs from its Blogger network that contained advertisements for online porn sites. "We've had a ton of feedback, in particular about the introduction of a retroactive change (some people have had accounts for 10+ years), but also about the negative impact on individuals who post sexually explicit content to express their identities," wrote Jessica Pelegio, Google's social product support manager, in a post on Google product forums. "So rather than implement this change, we've decided to step up enforcement around our existing policy prohibiting commercial porn.

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  1. Google Reverses Stance, Allows Porn On Blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does google object to porn? maybe they should show some balls!

  2. Re:Bigger Markets by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Informative

    the more conservative the area of the country (and the world) the more online pornography is consumed:

    http://www.newscientist.com/ar...

    pointlessly uptight people still need their biological release, and since their bullshit "morals" don't allow them to express their natural proclivities in real life, they're all closet perverts

    so southerners need that fiber, they won't oppose it

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  3. Not Porn by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "publicly share images and video that are sexually explicit or show graphic nudity." Is hardly porn. Most movies released would fall under that category. Meaning you could not even host a movie review blog without censoring the video you are reviewing.

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  4. Re:Bigger Markets by fibonacci8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That moment when you realize that fervor, hysteria, and blue balls all describe the same condition.

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  5. Offtopic but...wth happened to /. layout? by dywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this the "beta" I've been hearing about?
    Not a fan, I must say.

    I wanted to update my signature today, and under this new layout I can't seem to find it at all.

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    1. Re:Offtopic but...wth happened to /. layout? by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      no, this is not the beta you were hearing about. this isnt that bad. i actually like it so far.. the beta you heard about was HORRIBLE

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    2. Re:Offtopic but...wth happened to /. layout? by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      When we were kids, we used to have to walk uphill both ways to Beta, in borrowed boots or barefoot, to get to Slashdot.

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    3. Re:Offtopic but...wth happened to /. layout? by gman003 · · Score: 2

      It's not Beta. It still works, more-or-less. Beta had a comment section that was completely impossible to browse or work with - considering the comments are the only real draw, it's no surprise it was dead on arrival.

      This looks like just some styling to make Slashdot look less 2002. Still odd that they don't talk about it, but that's Dice for you. We're no longer the "community", we're the "audience"; we're supposed to just sit there and take it.

    4. Re:Offtopic but...wth happened to /. layout? by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 2

      No, the beta you heard about so much looked suspiciously like this. I'll leave the reason why that was as an exercise for the reader. What you're commenting on is a variant of the classic layout and described a bit more here.

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  6. Re:Bigger Markets by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    yes

    because conservative countries that disallow expression of sexuality, and also disallow censor pornography, create murderous assholes and bitter hatemongers

    so allowing sexuality is best, but allowing pornography is second best

    blocking both creates hellholes of human suffering. that's religious conservative "morals" at work

     

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  7. Re:Bigger Markets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In many circles anything related to the LGBT community is rated adult and considered explicit.

  8. Re:Competition by ShaunC · · Score: 2

    I think it's more likely they were afraid that Bing would continue to have the upper hand. Or the lower hand. Or maybe the hand stroking both up and down...

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  9. Car geeks by tepples · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are whole huge swathes of blogspot.com that are tranny porn

    So /r/carporn isn't enough transmission porn for car geeks?

  10. Re:Bigger Markets by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you live in a society where rich men can have many wives so there's less women to go around, female infanticide is ripe, and your economy sucks so you can't get a job: no woman will look at you

    you have no pornography, women are wrapped up and hidden from sight

    your corrupt broken government censors the internet

    so you have no outlet for your sexuality

    none. zero

    this is extremely unnatural

    and this is what fuels all the suffering and hatred in conservative societies and with men from conservative backgrounds: a young man with no options to express his natural biological desires turns to the worst choices in life: murder and psychopathy

    meanwhile, in "decadent", "immoral" societies, where expression of natural human sexuality is easy, young men and women are productive, happy and content

    the greatest creator of evil in this world is traditional religion

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  11. Mistake or canny PR? by ZipK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We've had a ton of feedback, in particular about the introduction of a retroactive change (some people have had accounts for 10+ years), but also about the negative impact on individuals who post sexually explicit content to express their identities," wrote Jessica Pelegio, Google's social product support manager...

    So did Google (a) not solicit user input that would have revealed the likelihood of a backlash, (b) not know (without even asking) there would be a backlash, or (c) know there would be a backlash that could drum up free publicity?

    1. Re:Mistake or canny PR? by johncandale · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google is just another one of those large corporations that are run by middle managers: and C level head nodding exes. The way decisions flow up stream is dysfunctional, which is why they are often reversed seemingly pscyofranicly if they get play in the media.

    2. Re: Mistake or canny PR? by swillden · · Score: 2

      I have a friend at Google that says the real backlash was internal, and he thinks Matt Cutts even threatened to quit over this.

      (I'm a Google employee)

      Internal backlash was massive, and as far as I can tell hugely stronger than the fairly mild complaints outside the company. The strength of the internal opposition took me by surprise. I understood that while Google doesn't wish to censor the web it also doesn't wish to be the entity serving up sexual content. That seems like a reasonable position to me. I thought the 30-day notice was a bit short, even though the terms of service only offer 14 days, but other than that it seemed reasonable to me, basically bringing blogger into line with the policies in place for YouTube, etc., for years.

      Many of my colleagues, however, vehemently disagreed, calling it censorship, application of one region's values upon the world and generally declaiming it as the beginning of the end for Google as a force for openness and access to information. Many called the decision deeply inconsistent with Google's stated mission, "To organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful". The internal memegen system was awash in anti-censorship memes, and one of the memegen team went further and more or less shut the system down in protest, replacing it with a complaint about the blogger shutdown. Eng-misc, a high-volume internal mailing list for random discussions of, well, anything, was overrun with threads complaining about it. The founders got hammered with questions and complaints in the weekly company-wide TGIF meeting (which is actually held on Thursday these days, so more Googlers around the world can see it live).

      It's been quite the storm.

      As soon as the internal reaction started I expected the reversal, though it went further than I expected. I thought the result would just be more notice, maybe 90 days. But I suppose that's because I thought the basic decision was reasonable, and only the short notice unreasonable. Many others felt differently, obviously.

      It's going to be interesting to see if this provokes re-examination of the YouTube and G+ policies. I doubt it, but I was wrong about the nature of the reversal, too.

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  12. Re:Bigger Markets by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    Well, then. You seem to have everything figured out. . . .

  13. Re:Identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is something weird in this logic.

    Posting porn: wrong

    Found it.

  14. Re:Bigger Markets by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i don't have everything figured out

    but i do know strict religious upbringing that suppresses normal human sexuality feeds hatred and suffering

    if you as a human being are not allowed your normal biological outlets, those urges just don't disappear, they reemerge as disappointment and hatred at the world that denies you your normal needs because of a vain shallow "morality" (aka, hypocrisy)

    traditionalism, conservatism, and extreme religiosity breeds evil in this world

    that is an objective fact

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  15. Re:Bigger Markets by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i'm not a bigot

    if you as a human being are not allowed your normal biological outlets, those urges just don't disappear, they reemerge as disappointment and hatred at the world that denies you your normal needs because of a vain shallow "morality" (aka, hypocrisy)

    traditionalism, conservatism, and extreme religiosity breeds evil in this world

    that is an objective fact

    find a deeply conservative place in the world, and you also find poverty, misery, and hatred

    find a liberal place in the world, and you also find fortune, happiness, and tolerance

    chart religiousity versus happiness in this world and it is inversely proportional

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  16. SPEND the most money on porn by avandesande · · Score: 2

    It's an IQ test, and they failed!

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  17. Re: Bigger Markets by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking of small children, how's celibacy for catholic priests working out?

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  18. Porn or censorship by Theovon · · Score: 2

    Honest question: What proportion of complainers just want porn, and what proportion just don't want censorship? And what proportion of those complaining about censorship really just want porn?

  19. Argh by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Here is what is so frustrating about all this.

    Consensual sex is good. Consensual sex is fine. Consensual sex is entertaining.

    The "bad' things about consensual sex, mostly including distributing media recording it -- disease, "moral" backlash, reputation damage, difference from how the external objector thinks it should be performed, perceived "offense", blatant rationalizations about agency magically not being present for the most ridiculous, transparent and obviously invalid reasons -- all of this stuff comes from outside sex. They are not sex. All of these things are things a sane person needs to defend against in both the prophylactic and immediate senses. These factors are all pernicious to immediate attacks on normality and goodness -- on sex itself -- and as such, they can be dangerous as hell.

    The *one* inherent, sex-centric risk that affects just a few of the many forms of sex is that of unwanted pregnancy. Because yes, that's actually part of those (again, few) aspects of sex. And, just like the external threats, it can be defended against, so it's not a good reason to not have sex even of that kind, and of course it never was a good reason to avoid the myriad types and expressions of sex that cannot result in pregnancy.

    Into this environment come the bewildered. Google's corporate overlords, like most who have gained power, seek to impose their view of what's "ok" on everyone else. In the context of this step back from the brink, Google is still way, way above the depths in terms of the violence, coercion and repression the government, religions, various corporations and the general public have established, but we have been witness to the urge growing within the Google power structure. Of course it is wonderful to see it set back somewhat, but we would be extremely gullible if we thought this was certain to be the end of it. This is a very well-trodden path.

    Into this environment come the masses (but I repeat myself.) Just a few days ago, an episode of The Walking Dead aired that had the Intertubes quite upset due to content.

    Now, this particular work of fiction, you have to understand, has showcased, in graphic detail, human cannibalism; murder of many stripes; suicide; extreme torture; extreme bondage; non-consensual amputation; and of course "zombies" in glorious anatomical and decaying detail. Exploding heads, severed body parts, the thrusting of limbs inside the dead, painting one's self in zombie gore, the most generous splashing of body parts and fluids in every direction and every variety you could possibly imagine (unless you think they actually missed something, and in which case, if you let the producers know, I'd bet money it shows up within a few episodes.) In play have been tanks, explosives, booby traps, fire, bacterial assault, knives, guns, imprisonment, baseball bats, swords, fingernails, martial arts... None of this so much as raises an eyebrow with the viewing public, who think it's all delightful entertainment.

    So good grief, what could the content possibly be that actually got the viewers weirded out enough to speak up and get feisty? Only this: Two gay fellows sharing a kiss. Not even a particularly passionate kiss, but more of a "wow, so glad you made it through that alive" kiss.

    We -- the few truly sane, the only way to honestly characterize it -- watch this kind of governmental, corporate, religious and individual pathology from outside, and I have to tell all of you, any hope that human society will ever come to its senses is extinguished in a manner I can only liken to a tidal wave rolling over a single guttering candle.

    There's nothing for it. Society is sick, sick, sick. And dangerous. You all be careful out there.

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