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Twitter Adds "Report Dox" Option
AmiMoJo writes Twitter announced that its abuse-report system, which was recently refined to simplify and shorten the reporting process, has now expanded to allow users to report content such as self-harm incidents and "the sharing of private and confidential information" (aka doxing). The announcement, posted by Twitter Vice President of User Services Tina Bhatnagar, explained that December's report-process update was met with a "tripling" of the site's abuse support staff, which has led to a quintupling of abuse report processing. Chat logs recently revealed how Twitter is used by small groups to create vast harassment campaigns, thanks to sock puppet account and relative anonymity.
... would be a nice feature to add as well. And click/bait follows.
But like all things with power, it can be perilous. What to do, what to do. Sometimes you can respond after incidents, sometimes you need to be preemptive with your security and protocols.
Chat logs recently revealed how Twitter is used by small groups to create vast harassment campaigns
Yeah, it's funny how a small group of people can create a vast harassment campaign on an entire customer base and perpetuate it through shitty sites with no integrity.
I'm not wasting mod points on this shit.
What I think would be great to see, is if someone is found guilty of doxxing by Twitter to have the Twitter handle and IP addresses they have posted from put out in public (and the original doxxing removed of course), along with all other twitter handles that have posted from that IP.
Perhaps two wrongs don't make a right, but at least it makes things even.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I seem to be voted down for my concept. Before anyone else does so also, consider that I do not come at this from an ideological standpoint - I have seen people on BOTH sides of Ganrergate (for example) effected negatively by doxxing, so I would like to see that tool removed from trolls that work to hurt people of all ideologies.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You'd only win anything
It's not about winning anything though - it's about enough reason NOT to dox that we'd see a lot less of it.
There is no real "victory" on the internet. Just waves of nearly-pointless bickering. So the best we can do is limit collateral damage.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
As capable as anyone else but larger where it matter.
The afro?
Twitter is great for following the headlines. It's like an improved RSS reader.
And it would be trivial to keep any "clean" account(s) they have on a separate IP,
Trivial, perhaps... but over time it's easy to slip and use an IP that's more traceable to you, which is why I said to publish all of the IP's that handle has posted from.
I'd bet that many trolls are not that sophisticated though, or figure it would not be worth that level of effort. At the very least you'd weed out the casual trolls.
Just because a layer of security is not perfect, does not mean it's not worth adding.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
This changes nothing. Doxxing is bad, whatever the reasons for it, including (and especially) as a "revenge" against doxxing. Your idea is, in principle, similar to death penalty - killing someone because they killed someone.
A relatively small number of people used Twitter to post silly things, especially when it was new. Equating Twitter with "posting when you took a crap" is like equating movies with putting a nickle in a slot to watch 15 seconds of silent people walking around. It's a tool. It can be used for good, evil, or stupid.
We're much smarter than Blacks, but not as smart as Asians
I actually find this troll amusing, and can't tell if the poster was trying to parody Brave New World or not.
This is an excellent analogy because movies today are still limited to 15 seconds of runtime.
To whom? How will the harmer be helped by having a verbal outlet taken away for fear that force is initiated against them or a record made which harms their prospects?
I can already see people mass-reporting Brianna Wu for self-harm. Both jokingly and seriously.
Dear AC,
Thank you for posting your concerns.
But perhaps you'd like to tell us what a "harasser" is, because at the moment this appears to be "anyone who doesn't agree with me, mocks me or quotes facts which contradict my beliefs"
Yours sincerely
The rest of the Internet
Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
I mean after the last bit of dirt, bot, scum, and abuse is removed - well heck they might as well remove the brain cripplingly stupid comments too and finish shutting down the whole operation.
Or Facebook?
I will just climb back on my Brontosaurus and go back to my cave now (and not be harassed)
First I want to say that Twitter has done a good job improving its reporting system. So thanks for them for that.
But I'd like to point out that the articles produced by Ars Technica cannot be trusted as a source in this matter. For example this Slashdot news item links to an article full of errors about the reasons Twitter has done this. The "vast harassment campaign" they're talking about is #Gamergate which is a reaction on behalf of gamers (aka. people who play computer and video games regularly) to a corrupt games journalism and other problems in games industry such as collusion, and censorship,.. not to mention the favoritism, cronyism and nepotism related issues.
Ars Technica writer Ben Kutchera has been accused of some really unethical things by the people who support #Gamergate. Kutchera for example is known to have taken part in journalistic collusion (Google GameJournoPro mailing list). He is also known for trying to tone police writers from other news outlets to write stuff from the same perspective as their clique did. And pressuring head of Escapist Magazine to censorship conversation about certain issues and especially things they didn't like. Like for example, people who criticise Anita Sarkeesian's extremist views. Mr. Kutchera was paying money for a developer through Patreon, and presumably was expecting this developer to give him exclusive interviews and stuff like that. Resulting both getting money and fame. And the proof of him doing all this is out there. And he is not the only one doing these things.
http://wiki.gamergate.me/index...
http://wiki.gamergate.me/index...
Trying to avoid the talk about the corruption and GameJournoPro list, writers like Mr. Kuchera and the rest of the accused people from Polygon, Kotaku, Gamasutra, Ars, RPS, etc. have been opposing #Gamergate. They've actively been trying to derail the conversation by accusing pro-#GamerGate of some of the most depressing stuff I've ever read on-line. Ars Technica as a whole has either failed to understand everything related to the social phenomenon currently on-going (which they should understand, if I may add), or they know exactly what is going on and they're playing fools on purpose.
The "Chat Logs" in question were released by person who happens to be one of the people accused of cronyism and being professional victim by pro-#GamerGate people. And the evidence supporting these claims this is also out there if you Google it. Those pieces make a stronger case than the cherry-picked or out of context "Chat Logs" that support the other point of view in this matter.
It just blows my mind when person (or people this person knows), visit anonymous image boards (without understanding how they work), write bad stuff about themselves (which can be traced back to themselves), and then go to their Twitter accounts and blogs with the screenshots they just took of their own messages, and shout "Look! Here's evidence of how bad these people on this board are". And that's even more mind boggling is how journalistic outlets like Ars Technica without verifying person's story or listening to both parties in question, write articles about the person as the harassed underdog who is desperately in need of some more Patreon money or Kickstarter funding.
#GamerGate is just a hash tag like any other. Any one can go on-line and take part in it. Any one can go and do what they want with it. I'm sure that harassment has happened, release of private information has happened, and some other bad stuff has happened. And both the anti-#GamerGate, the trolls, and pro-#GamerGate have done it. And it's good that Twitter offers better tools for people to combat against this bad behaviour. And I also hope that they have a system in place against people who are abusing the report system.
However it is wrong for Ars Technica to make an article were they commit multiple logical fallacies, u
Another step forward: the complete domestication of the internet is finally at hand.
The statistics don't agree with what you're claiming. Both men and women receive about just as much harassment on social media. The claims American journalists did few months ago were not based on reality.
Please watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Twitter is great for following the headlines. It's like an improved RSS reader.
If you really believe what you wrote you need to report to the nearest FEMA office
for your free sterilization.
Psycho-trannie Otherkin Army wins...
-- Counting backwards since 1984!
Video games were the last world that these basement dwellers could rule. Then girls started playing and upsetting their little kingdoms.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
The sheer level of harassment now on twitter is driving women off the site in droves.
So go back to Pinterest.
Partial list of twitter users: Erris, MacTrope, gnutoo, inTheLoo, willeyhill, westbake, odder, ibane, DeadZero, freenix, myCopyWrong, right handed, GNUChop
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This is an excellent analogy because movies today are still limited to 15 seconds of runtime.
They are when the trailer shows the good parts.
I welcome these steps because it is shocking how little people realise that they have shared unknowingly. Or worse that others have shared on their behalf.
How often do you encounter family or friends or colleagues who proudly boast that they don't have a social media account therefore they have nothing to fear. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Not having an account just makes you ignorant to what has been posted about you or your children or other privacy concerns.
With the advent of smartphones, public cloud storage and various dubious smartphone malware dressed as popular apps, we've all become custodians of each others data to some extent. But few are aware or understand the implications.
I wonder should they be teaching more data security and privacy to kids instead of concentrating their efforts on teaching them all how to be coders.
along with all other twitter handles that have posted from that IP
With all the carrier grade network address translation (CGNAT) going on in mobile networks and in developing countries' wired networks, I imagine that matching people by IPv4 address would need a team of humans to weed out all the false positives.
Twitter based PR shill accounts blather on endlessly about things like how the Keystone XL is going to bring Jesus back, or the good that Nestle does by diverting a mountain stream into pipes. I see this anti-troll/doxing cleanup of Twitter as a double edged sword. It could help those who are attacked by many such as Gamergate or whatever, but it looks like it will not hinder PR firm circle jerk accounts run by DC interns, and in fact looks like it will be abused by the PR firms to quash and hide any accounts critical of their messages.
Replies are already almost useless and invisible, and blocking happens after one critical tweet or uncomfortable question. Fighting a PR war with one's everyday account is useless, when you're dealing with a constant stream of automated posts and retweets, and this will only make Twitter less of a service and more of a showcase - especially as Twitter is, in most cases, the only public forum these PR firms can't lock down completely.
Then all those evil trolls cannot post parts of the internet on the internet and upset stupid people who post information on the internet about themselves and don't like it getting aggregated.
As for the self harm reporting, does that include every reference to getting drunk that indicates binge drinking?
But perhaps you'd like to tell us what a "harasser" is, because at the moment this appears to be "anyone who doesn't agree with me, mocks me or quotes facts which contradict my beliefs"
Yours sincerely
The rest of the Internet
The geek --- whose rules of play are under fire these days --- can be rather too quick to claim that he speaks for the Internet as a whole.
Pew Research asked respondents about six different forms of online harassment. Those who witnessed harassment said they had seen at least one of the following occur to others online:
60% of internet users said they had witnessed someone being called offensive names
53% had seen efforts to purposefully embarrass someone
25% had seen someone being physically threatened
24% witnessed someone being harassed for a sustained period of time
19% said they witnessed someone being sexually harassed
18% said they had seen someone be stalked
Those who have personally experienced online harassment said they were the target of at least one of the following online:
27% of internet users have been called offensive names
22% have had someone try to purposefully embarrass them
8% have been physically threatened
8% have been stalked
7% have been harassed for a sustained period
6% have been sexually harassed
In broad trends, the data show that men are more likely to experience name-calling and embarrassment, while young women are particularly vulnerable to sexual harassment and stalking. Social media is the most common scene of both types of harassment, although men highlight online gaming and comments sections as other spaces they typically encounter harassment.
Young women, those 18-24, experience certain severe types of harassment at disproportionately high levels: 26% of these young women have been stalked online, and 25% were the target of online sexual harassment.
While most online environments were viewed as equally welcoming to both genders, the starkest results were for online gaming. Some 44% of respondents felt the platform was more welcoming toward men.
Online Harassment [October 22, 2014]
The full report can be downloaded as a free PDF from this page.
>someone being called offensive names
Not harassment.
>purposefully embarrass someone
Not harassment.
>physically threatened
Illegal, here they call it "uttering threats."
>harassed for a sustained period of time
Self-referencing.
witnessed someone being sexually harassed
Subjective, possibly illegal.
>stalked
Illegal.