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Jolla Partners With SSH To Create Sailfish Secure

Posted by samzenpus on from the protect-ya-neck dept.

First time accepted submitter muckracer writes Finnish mobile company Jolla will be working with Finland's SSH Communications to offer another version of its SailfishOS platform with stronger security credentials. The partnership was announced today at Jolla's press conference in Barcelona at the Mobile World Congress trade show. SSH will be providing comms encryption and key management to Sailfish Secure.

30 comments

  1. Don't they get memos in Finrand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We don't want software with "fish" prefix or suffix, Renovo has done enough harm arreadey.

    1. Re:Don't they get memos in Finrand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about blowfish?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_%28cipher%29

    2. Re:Don't they get memos in Finrand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you follow fishy trail, you will find an NSA agent who would sell his wife and mother to save his own skin (scales?).

  2. Salespitch: More False Promises from CEOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A big advert that amounts to noise for rubes. Come get the latest security, all you have to do is open your wallet.

    Betrayal lies underneath their brazen sales pitch. Feed the unwashed masses with false promises and secretly collaborate with spies to provide covert access. The best of both worlds: revenue from gullible consumers who believe that they'll be secure and high-fives from spies who work to open markets and give CEOs access to resources across the planet.

    Security is not something you can buy. It's something you must achieve on your own.

    CEOs could care less about your security. They want your hard-earned cash and they want to sell your data to the highest bidder while giving government spies everything they ask for. Perhaps putting up mock resistance to convince users that they're siding with the public.

    1. Re:Salespitch: More False Promises from CEOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      CEOs could care less about your security.

      Really?

      How much less could the care? Can it be quantified?

    2. Re:Salespitch: More False Promises from CEOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Security is not something you can buy. It's something you must achieve on your own.

      So tell us about your CPU foundries, your personal OS development, your kernel code and so on... :-P

  3. that's the way to go by stooo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Security in mobile is as bad as in the PC worls 20 years ago.
    Jolla is on the right track !

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    1. Re:that's the way to go by balaband · · Score: 2

      I agree.

      How much CPUs/RAM/megapixels do you really need in a phone? How much apps do you actually use? The market is quickly becoming saturated.

      But the phone that takes security seriously? I see a nice piece of pie in the business market that Blackberry is losing with each day, and Apple and Google will not be able to fill,

  4. Badly needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could be really good news for both Jolla and SSH. Makes sense for them to get together and it will be quite interesting to see, what they come up with. Especially given the fact, that neither needs to bow down to any PATRIOTic demands.

    Privacy features, so far not much present in Sailfish, have been in much demand by their users. Seems they have listened and I hope, Jolla/SSH can offer something worthwhile. If nothing else, some diversity in the rather limited-options market of mobile devices and operating systems.

  5. Re:bend over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet Russians or Chinese would want an alternative to Android / iOS. A secure one, moreover... NSA strikeback.

  6. Good news by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jolla phone user here. The killer feature for me, besides the ability to run Android apps, is the security aspect (none of the Big Three mobile OS makers gets my data). (And, on top of it, I can brag "my mobile phone arrived with vim and git preinstalled".) I am pretty satisfied with the OS as it is, but it could use a few more quality-of-life improvements and native features (the mail app mainly). This new project is good news, because it will help them grow, gain popularity and find a niche to fill in the mobile OS market, but I hope this won't take resources away from the regular development.

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    Hell Segmentation fault

    1. Re:Good news by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Hey whaday know, it does have git. I hadn't noticed that, thanks for the tip.

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      Watch this Heartland Institute video
    2. Re:Good news by GNious · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can brag "my mobile phone arrived with vim preinstalled".

      You just made me consider throwing my Jolla out.

    3. Re:Good news by water-and-sewer · · Score: 1

      This is great news. I'd be thrilled to support something that breaks the current duopoly in smartphone OSes. And I don't have high hopes for Mozilla's Firefox OS - I figure, if that team can't make sense of their browser, they don't belong in the OS business, much less the smartphone OS business, as far as I'm concerned.

      Go Jolla, you punky bastard, you!

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      If this were Usenet, I'd killfile the lot of you.
    4. Re:Good news by m4rtink · · Score: 2

      Hey whaday know, it does have git. I hadn't noticed that, thanks for the tip.

      The built in backup software (called vault, source code here: https://github.com/nemomobile/...) is based on git, that's why it is installed. :)

  7. Open source it by ssam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll believe that Jolla is more secure when they release the source code.

    1. Re: Open source it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you and pretty much everyone else can then proceed to ignore it? You know, like you guys did with the bash and OpenSSL code.

    2. Re: Open source it by ssam · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thanks, great examples. Heartbleed was found because by a company (google) who wanted to audit the code they were using. Because openSSL is opensource they were able to do that.

    3. Re:Open source it by Eunuchswear · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not all of it is open, but you can find links to a lot of it at https://together.jolla.com/que...

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    4. Re: Open source it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's the GP's point. It wasn't you or any other average user who found the OpenSSL bugs. It was researchers working for large companies. Large companies often have enough clout and resources to license the source code to any software they use, even if it isn't open sourced.

    5. Re: Open source it by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      That's the GP's point. It wasn't you or any other average user who found the OpenSSL bugs. It was researchers working for large companies.

      Right, and the point of the person to whom you were replying is that it actually happened, and was possible. Unlike with closed source, where it couldn't have happened at all.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re: Open source it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The comment you replied to, but didn't bother to read, addressed that already.

      I'll quote it for you, since you seem to have some sort of a disability that prevents you from finding in on your own:

      Large companies often have enough clout and resources to license the source code to any software they use, even if it isn't open sourced.

    7. Re: Open source it by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'll quote it for you, since you seem to have some sort of a disability that prevents you from finding in on your own:

      Oh no, I did read it already. You seem to have a disability that leads you to assign meaning to things which have none. See, there's also plenty of cases where they can't license the source code. For example, Google won't be finding bugs in Microsoft's code any time soon, unless it's something they've open sourced. Which they've been doing lately. Which suggests that even Microsoft is beginning to get what you still can't comprehend. Disability, indeed.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  8. Blackphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder if this could be the European version of a Blackphone (ok, the latter is partially European, but mainly American).
    I'm intrigued by the 'key management' part spoken of by SSH...

  9. Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new combination will be called SuperFish.

    1. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Secure .. shellfish

  10. After Lenovo latest malware scandal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are still talking about Sailfish? Lenovo just released tool to remove it from infected laptops.

  11. SSH Communications still exists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thought everyone moved to openssh ages ago.

    1. Re:SSH Communications still exists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems they're more of a consulting/auditing company now, rather than selling SSH per se.