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Photo First: Light Captured As Both Particle and Wave

mpicpp sends word that scientists have succeeded in capturing the first-ever snapshot of the dual behavior of light. "It's one of those enduring Zen koans of science that we've all grown up with: Light behaves as both a particle and a wave—at the same time. Einstein taught us that, so we're all generally on board, but to actually understand what it means would require several Ph.D.s and a thorough understanding of quantum physics. What's more, scientists have never been able to devise an experiment that documents light behaving as both a wave and a particle simultaneously. Until now. That's the contention of a team of Swiss and American researchers, who say they've succeeded in capturing the first-ever snapshot of light's dual behavior. Using an advanced electron microscope – one of only two on the planet – at the EPFL labs in Switzerland, the team has generated a kind of quantum photograph of light behaving as both a particle and a wave. The experiment involves firing laser light at a microscopic metallic nanowire, causing light to travel — as a wave — back and forth along the wire. When waves traveling in opposite directions meet, they form a "standing wave" that emits light itself — as particles. By shooting a stream of electrons close to the nanowire, the researchers were able to capture an image that simultaneously demonstrates both the wave-nature and particle-nature of light. 'This experiment demonstrates that, for the first time ever, we can film quantum mechanics — and its paradoxical nature — directly,' says lead researcher Fabrizio Carbone of EPFL, on the lab's project page. The study is to be officially published this week in the journal Nature Communications."

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  1. not the first time by ralphsiegler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    every dual slit experiment shows light behaving as both particle and wave, because every photon only interferes with itself. Two or more photons never interfere with each other.

    1. Re:not the first time by Dins · · Score: 2

      Maybe it's me, but I thought light behaving as both a particle and a wave was a quantum state. And that quantum state exists until the system is observed and then it collapses into one of two possibilities. Looking that the picture in the link, and...I guess that's not what I was expecting. What am I missing here, physicists? Is the light particle/wave thing not a quantum thing? If it is, that picture doesn't seem like it describes both at once. It almost seems too...cartoony.

    2. Re:not the first time by stoborrobots · · Score: 5, Informative

      The wave-particle duality is not a quantum superposition like you're describing (which would break down under measurement), although the caricatured manner in which we teach it might lead you believe that. It's a little more simple than that.

      In our world, we are used to two kinds of things: particles, and waves. We are used to this distinction, and describe most things in one of these manners. Sound is a wave, a billiard ball is a particle, vibrations are waves, bricks are particles. If something is a particle, it has certain properties, like position, size, and shape. If it is a wave, it has certain other properties like wavelength, frequency, and amplitude. In addition, there are some common properties like velocity and direction.

      When it came to studying light (and many other quantum stuffs), we can't directly see what it's made of. But we can take measurements of each "puff" of light, and infer its properties that way. When we do this, we notice that puffs of light have some properties which are particle-like, and some which are wave-like. So the term "particle-wave duality" became popular to describe this new material that was behaving simultaneously like a particle and a wave. It doesn't make sense to ask which one it is - a "puff" of light is neither a particle, nor a wave, but a different kind of stuff which has some properties of each.

    3. Re:not the first time by ralphsiegler · · Score: 2

      We can observe both particle and wave behavior at the same time. For example, a solid state detector system can pick up the photons from a dual slit experiment, and a famous variation is to send photon at a time to a two slit configuration. Over time the photons still land on "bright" parts of interference pattern but were detected individually as particles.

    4. Re:not the first time by WillgasM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The brick is also a wave, it's just such a complex wave that it would be nearly impossible to express in those terms (it's just a sum of all its subatomic parts, after all). If we could express a brick in terms of a wave, the values would just be endless strings of numbers that make little sense to our human brains. Then, lets say we devise a way to visualize those values in a form more palatable for human consumption; you'd end up with a picture of a brick.

    5. Re:not the first time by justthinkit · · Score: 2

      No, Einstein did different things with each of SR and GR. Wikipedia elucidates. The way things stood, after GR, was that there could be an ether, or not, and it didn't matter -- to GR.

      The supposed "disproving" of the ether was merely that it wasn't detected across a number of experiments. But what the "it" was also changed over time. The ether has been proposed as a solid, liquid and gas (and now pure energy, in Spring-And-Loop Theory).

      The debate about the ether is by no means over. Nor has "it" been proven to not exist. Certain possible ethers have not been detected. That is all.

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  2. It's the measurement by thebes · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you attempt to measure it in the way you would measure a wave, it will present itself as a wave.

    If you attempt to measure it in the way you would measure a particle, it will present itself as a particle.

    Light doesn't choose to be a particle or a wave at any given time, the measurement we use defines the characteristics it has. Nothing more, nothing less.

    1. Re:It's the measurement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      In that case, I'm going to attempt to measure it in the way I would measure Mila Kunis.

    2. Re:It's the measurement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish physicists would stop using the word "measurement" when talking about quantum mechanics. To detect fundamental particles we have to interact with them in an intrusive or destructive way. It's not like putting a rock on a scale to measure its weight or putting a ruler to a golf ball. We don't get to keep the original particle after we're done. It's more like colliding snowballs with other snowballs to probe their properties. You destroy or transform them in the process. If this was how we conveyed the concepts, the quantum ideas would become a lot more understandable.

    3. Re:It's the measurement by new_01 · · Score: 2

      Perhaps we should wheat until the study results comes in.

    4. Re:It's the measurement by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 2

      I'm afraid you'll find that measurement to produce a purely imaginary result.

  3. 3-D to 2-D display by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the fine article it provides a caption to the graphic

    "The bottom "slice" of the image shows the particles, while the top image shows light as a wave""

    Looking at the graphic the top image is a 3-D display and the bottom just a color coded 2-D representation with topo lines. I see nothing in this displaying the wave aspect and particle aspect. Mistake?

    1. Re:3-D to 2-D display by mlkj · · Score: 2

      Have a quote from the original article :

      The scientists shot a stream of electrons close to the nanowire, using them to image the standing wave of light. As the electrons interacted with the confined light on the nanowire, they either sped up or slowed down. Using the ultrafast microscope to image the position where this change in speed occurred, Carbone’s team could now visualize the standing wave, which acts as a fingerprint of the wave-nature of light.

      While this phenomenon shows the wave-like nature of light, it simultaneously demonstrated its particle aspect as well. As the electrons pass close to the standing wave of light, they “hit” the light’s particles, the photons. As mentioned above, this affects their speed, making them move faster or slower. This change in speed appears as an exchange of energy “packets” (quanta) between electrons and photons. The very occurrence of these energy packets shows that the light on the nanowire behaves as a particle.

      So, the photo shows the wave-like nature of light, and the fact that they could take a 'photo' by measuring the photo/electrons interraction shows the particle-like nature of light.

      Note: Is anyone aware of a term for photos taken with electrons (or anything that isn't photons) ?

  4. Re:My brain is full by youngone · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's no way of doing that. Feynman said "I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics". You've probably got no chance. :-)

  5. Seen it b4. But not meh. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    I have seen these images so many times before. Standing waves, traveling waves, plane polarized wave entering a ferrite core and its plane of polarization turning and twisting, all in glorious 24 bit color. But all those images and animations came from Ansoft High Frequency Structure Simulator software. Not actual experimental physically observed phenomena. And not at light frequencies. Microwave wavelengths mostly. So seen it so many times before, but definitely not meh.

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  6. Several Ph.D.s? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > but to actually understand what it means would require several Ph.D.s and a thorough understanding of quantum physics

    No, just some understanding of statistics and calculus up to tensors along with an ability to know why you know something rather than just knowing things.

    When we make out relatively simple things (like quantum physics) to be complex, when in fact they are just strange we do a disservice to those who might otherwise put in the effort to understand.

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  7. This attitude pisses me off by crioca · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Light behaves as both a particle and a wave—at the same time. Einstein taught us that, so we're all generally on board, but to actually understand what it means would require several Ph.D.s and a thorough understanding of quantum physics

    Stop pretending physics is spooooky. It's not that difficult to understand, at least at a superficial level. And I don't have a degree, let a lone a Ph.D, but even I can explain it (again, superficially):

    Time dilation means that the faster you go, the slower time goes. If you're travelling at the speed of light in a vacuum, then the speed at which you're travelling through time is slowed infinitely. This means a photon experiences no passing of time between the moment it is created, and the moment it collides with something.

    But the speed of light is finite, so it has to travel through time to go between two points. But because from the photon's perspective it's travel is instantaneous, it can't experience that time. So a photon doesn't know where it's going to land, until it does. And so until it does land, it could have landed anywhere. So when a photon is created, it travels out in all directions, like a wave, until it lands somewhere and the wave collapses.

    The part that's hard to understand is the why.

  8. Re:My brain is full by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    A group of physicist-journalists have done an interesting experiment to show how light trapped in a tiny wave guide interacts with electrons. They then massively overhyped the results by making claims that are highly dubious at best in order to gain attention.

  9. Misleading summary by burtosis · · Score: 2

    It is not theoretically possible to both capture a single photon as both a wave and particle simeltaneously. What they have done is show a set of thousands (millions?) of electron photon interactions at the same instant in time arranged on 2 axis. Basically the lower and slower lumps become particles and the upper smoother lines show waves. So its neat and a first for light waves afaik but misleading as it is not a photo of a single photon.