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Inside the North Korean Data Smuggling Movement

Sparrowvsrevolution writes A new Wired magazine story goes inside the North Korean rebel movement seeking to overthrow Kim Jong-un by smuggling USB drives into the country packed with foreign television and movies. As the story describes, one group has stashed USB drives in Chinese cargo trucks. Another has passed them over from tourist boats that meet with fishermen mid-river. Others arrange USB handoffs at the Chinese border in the middle of the night with walkie talkies, laser pointers, and bountiful bribes. Even Kim assassination comedy The Interview, which the North Korean government allegedly hacked Sony to prevent from being released, has made it into the country: Chinese traders' trucks carried 20 copies of the film across the border the day after Christmas, just two days after its online release.

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  1. ICYMI: Frontline's Secret State of North Korea by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    This exact same topic was covered in Frontline's special on North Korea over a year ago. Their point of contact was Jiro Ishimaru of Asiapress who was sneaker netting USBs over the border. They even took a video of people trying to watch on a tiny screen and having to shut everything down whenever they heard someone outside.

    The documentary also touched on humanitarian issues as much as it could using a secret camera. Sad stuff. Great thing to watch. Occasionally you can catch it streaming on Netflix but it seems to not be available right now.

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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:ICYMI: Frontline's Secret State of North Korea by dysmal · · Score: 1

      I knew this story sounded familiar. Thanks for reminding me about this Frontine episode!!!

    2. Re:ICYMI: Frontline's Secret State of North Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have they figured out how to send computers as well so that they can read the drives? Also, they may need to smuggle in electricity.

    3. Re:ICYMI: Frontline's Secret State of North Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's available in the US at least. I just watched it for the first time last night. Great documentary and very sad indeed.

    4. Re:ICYMI: Frontline's Secret State of North Korea by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Information is trivial to transport these days. Sneakernet seems a bit clumsy when you can broadcast bandwidth invisibly through the air, or at worst physically drop in millions of SD cards via cheap drone or light aircraft. Hell, if you are serious, you could drop in an millions of ipod nano sized media players fully loaded with propaganda, for the cost of one military jet. The Swarm effect is difficult to combat using conventional military tactics.

  2. Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I think when someone gives me a USB stick with propaganda on it, or advertisements as they call it.

    1. Re:Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why can't they just torrent it like everyone else?

    2. Re:Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And get sued by the MPAA? There are some risks that you just don't take.

    3. Re: Free USB stick! by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

      WHOOSH! Seriously?

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    4. Re:Free USB stick! by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      My first thought was what is someone in North Korea going to do with a USB? Its not like they have electronics.

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      Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
    5. Re:Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're most likely keeping count and recording who and what was downloaded.

      100 years from now, after a revolution that frees Korea, they'll have the paper trail to sue them for their great-grandparents acts of piracy.

    6. Re: Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's it feel being the actual fucking idiot?

    7. Re:Free USB stick! by rikkards · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised. The ones that matter do unfortunately majority of them also get their bread buttered under the existing regime.

    8. Re:Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because hollywood isn't the propaganda arm of the US Govt how?

    9. Re:Free USB stick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I agree - a bus on its own is pretty pointless.

  3. Information Wants to Be Free by Akratist · · Score: 2

    Even if people cannot change the circumstances of their existence, they are able to change their thoughts and opinions and recognize that what they're being told to think doesn't match up with reality. People who lived behind the Iron Curtain during the Cold War realized that they were being fed a line of BS and were eager to read western literature and listen to western music when they could find it, even if they weren't going to get Soviet tanks to leave by force.

    1. Re:Information Wants to Be Free by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Informative

      they are able to change their thoughts and opinions and recognize that what they're being told to think doesn't match up with reality.

      Apparently all those people are dead and Putin has been able to destroy history. Despite the overwhelming evidence of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the vast majority of Russians still believe one or more of the below items as told to them by Putin and his state-controlled media. Just a quick rundown of the lies encompass:

      - the U.S. was behind the overthrow of Yanukovych (False. Once again our vaunted experts were surprised by the downfall of a country's leader)

      - Yanukovych fleeing was the result of a U.S. coup (False. Similar to above, but slightly different as the Russians are claiming the U.S. sponsored a coup, which it wasn't. Yanukovych fled because the Ukrainian parliament abandoned him when he ordered the murder of protestors in Maidan Square)

      - the current Ukrainian government are fascists (False. Fascists are people like Putin who use taxpayer money to support selected businesses or people. Also, it is well known that Putin's government orders the confiscation of personal and business property to be managed under state control. Witness the annexation of Crimea and how businesses there are feeling this effect)

      - the current Ukrainian government are Nazis (False. Only one militia group, Azov battalion, is known to use Nazi symbols and/or policies in their organization. As they are not under direct control of the government, they're privately funded, to claim the entire Ukrainian government are Nazis is of course false)

      - the Ukrainian government ordered attacks on Russian speakers in the East when it came to power (False. No such attacks by government forces has ever been documented, even by the people claiming such attacks.)

      - the Ukrainian government shot down the Malaysian airliner (False. Substantial evidence shows the Russian-backed rebels shot down the plane thinking it was a Ukrainian military plane and then bragged about it on Twitter and elsewhere before they retracted their statements once the truth was known)

      - there are no Russian troops fighting in Ukraine (False. Documented graves of dead Russian soldiers show a MINIMUM of 1,000 troops dead. Other estimates gathered by Russian mothers has put the estimate closer to 5,000. It is known 100 or so died in one incident in late 2014 around Donetsk. Further, Russian state tv showed the equivalent of Russian marines fighting at the Donetsk airport with their arm patches visible).

      - Russia is not supplying equipment to the rebels (False. Near daily convoys of Russian equipment are seen crossing into Eastern Ukraine, this is in addition to equipment captured by government forces, equipment which is only manufactured in Russia and never owned by the Ukrainian military.)

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      We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
    2. Re:Information Wants to Be Free by Rich_Lather · · Score: 1

      Does Russia pay people to troll online forums to push party propaganda on unwitting users? That would be despicable.

    3. Re:Information Wants to Be Free by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

      Yes, Russia does do this. Evidence has surfaced (just like Russia sending troops and equipment to invade Ukraine) of locations and the amount these people are being paid to post Russian propaganda.

      The nice thing about these trolls is they are easy to spot for several reasons including:

      1) They use the word fascist when describing Ukrainian leaders
      2) They use the words junta and Kiev in the same sentence
      3) They describe Ukrainian troops as Nazis
      4) They consistently ask for proof of Russian equipment and men invading Ukraine despite giving them photos and videos from Russian state tv showing this. It's like talking to a Creationist: no matter how much evidence you have to show they're wrong, they'll never believe you
      5) They talk of Eastern Ukraine being part of Russia anyway so the Ukrainian troops are actually the invaders

      Once you spot these trolls, it's easy to ignore and flag them.

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      We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
  4. safer than dvds by Camembert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I once read that sometimes the secret service in N. Korea would switch off the electricity of a block of houses and then do a raid. DVD players would be stuck with the disc inside, and if it turned out to be a western movie then the owner had a real risk of being executed. The solution was to use UPS. Of course usb sticks are easier to conceal.

    1. Re:safer than dvds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is obviously an urban myth. You would just hide the DVD player behind the Kim Jong Il poster.

    2. Re:safer than dvds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I highly doubt that. Every CD/DVD player I've ever seen had a tiny whole, where you can put a small, narrow thing (needle, toothpick, paper clip etc.) and it would eject disk even when not powered.

    3. Re:safer than dvds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That would be the case if you suspected up front that the blackout was intentional, and had the time to find a sharp object and insert it in the DVD player, in the dark (that's an important detail), before the house was invaded.

    4. Re:safer than dvds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they cut off all power, you're going to have a hell of a time finding that little hole, especially when people are busting your doors open. Christ I can hardly press it the middle of the day with absolutely no time pressure.

    5. Re:safer than dvds by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Laptop/Tablet/Battery powered device?

  5. This is old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We still do the same from Hong Kong into mainland china, smuggling in every thing their crazy censorship government doesn't want them to know, like tianamen massacre (6/4) and scandals with government official

  6. Assassinate that fat fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ASAP

    1. Re:Assassinate that fat fuck by dysmal · · Score: 1

      So that there's a power vacuum and his crazy ass relatives can fight over it? Because that's worked AWESOMELY in the past when a tyrannical leader is removed from power by outsiders.

    2. Re: Assassinate that fat fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just nuke the whole damn country off the face of the earth. Problem solved.

    3. Re:Assassinate that fat fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kim Jong-Un? He was such an agreeable and easy-going young man during his educational years at that international school in Switzerland.

  7. An easier way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weren't they mailing stuff in air using baloons from south Korea in past? Just mail the USB stick too!

    1. Re:An easier way by bobbied · · Score: 1

      And you think they don't do this now?

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    2. Re:An easier way by CurryCamel · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking that those B52:s left over from the cold war could be put to use. Carpet-bomb the nation with propaganda-filled USB sticks!

      What could possibly go wrong?

    3. Re:An easier way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a kid in school I heard about the "token bombardment" of west coast during the WWII.

      "Why would they bombard us with bus tokens?"

      I later had to pretend that was a joke to avoid looking dumb(er).

  8. "North Korean rebel movement" by elrous0 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    AKA the CIA

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by bobbied · · Score: 3, Informative

      AKA the CIA

      We wish.... Actually NK is one of the few places the CIA is unlikely to have that much influence over. The time to get assets into the country was long ago and where I'm betting we have *some* local help, the nature of NK society is going to make it really hard to have much direct involvement.

      Of course, this leaking in of foreign entertainment and information via USB sticks is becoming harder and harder to control and once the Kim family looses control of the propaganda war, things will change on their own. I think we are actually pretty close to the tipping point in some places in NK, but for now the fear of the Kim family is keeping things under control. Once the country tips though, there will be a short and intense period of violence that I hope stays contained within the country, but I fear will spill out to the south. Once that is over, North Korea will be split into two parts, one unified with the south and a portion annexed into China. I have no idea where the split will be.

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    2. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      AKA the CIA

      You know what? I wish. Would be the best thing the ever did.

    3. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is always someone unhappy with the current regimme, and the CIA has decades of experience in finding and "owning" those individuals.

      As for how things work out. Look at Eastern Europe where the setting was pretty much the same.
      After the '89 revolution, some countries embraced democracy and capitalism, warts and all, while other stayed under strong communist control, but with a different color scheme.
      Move forward to today, where one of those former communist countries, Ukraine is getting ripped apart because Big Brother wants something they have.

      Also ... I think China likes the crazy-neighbor-buffer thing they got going with North Korea.

    4. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2

      Of course, this leaking in of foreign entertainment and information via USB sticks is becoming harder and harder to control and once the Kim family looses control of the propaganda war, things will change on their own. I think we are actually pretty close to the tipping point in some places in NK, but for now the fear of the Kim family is keeping things under control. Once the country tips though, there will be a short and intense period of violence that I hope stays contained within the country, but I fear will spill out to the south. Once that is over, North Korea will be split into two parts, one unified with the south and a portion annexed into China. I have no idea where the split will be.

      I really could not disagree more. Victor Cha, who wrote the book _The Impossible State_ about North Korea, has actually been there and served under multiple US presidents as an expert on the regime. Cha says that the average person in North Korea is so busy just trying to survive day to day that it is impossible for any kind of revolution to spring up from the masses. This plan that information being smuggled in is going to make a huge difference is simply the unrealistic dream of a generation raised on Twitter who believes that if they retweet something from the front line, it's just as good or maybe even better than being on the front line themselves.

      Keep in mind that the military is one of the very few things in North Korea that actually gets priority for the limited funds. They get food and weapons and a huge dose of propaganda to keep them in line. The only way the Kim family will fall is if the military steps in, but I don't see that as likely. I also don't think it's likely that North Korea will be split in half. As Cha points out in his book, while the Chinese have plenty of problems with North Korea in general and aren't crazy about it having nukes, which is why China is always pushing for them to stop doing nuclear testing, the reality is that China benefits from a dependent state there. They get valuable rare earths at a fraction of their value and China fears a unified Korea under the control of South Korea that might allow US troops to be stationed near the Chinese border and a South Korea that now has the North's nuclear arsenal.

      A somewhat recent defector in her 20s participated late last year in an online chat and she said that she thinks that few people in North Korea really believe the propaganda about the Kims, but life there is so tough that they don't have time to think about a big change. And I think that few North Koreans really believe or understand just how different life is in the south and the developed world. It wouldn't surprise me if some people believed that our movies and information are just our propaganda to deceive them. Keep in mind that North Koreans are essentially told all the time by their government "Yes, life here is very hard, but it's even worse in the countries of our enemies. This is why we must be ever vigilant to protect our lives here." I just don't see any of this stuff making much difference. If you read Cha's book you will see how brilliantly the North Korean government has been able to stifle dissent over the years.

    5. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Well, I hold out hope that *something* will happen, eventually.

      The Kim's do hold power based on two things, intimidation and information. They control information flow in and out and intimidate their way though rebellion. However, their grip on information is starting to crumble and the fabric of their control over information is fraying around the edges so the Kim's have to step up the intimidation part of the game which they still control. Eventually there won't be any intimidation left to ramp up and the information part will play out.

      You are right that the military is the key because it is a double sided blade. Kim is walking a fine line and should the officers start to get tainted by the information that is more and more freely flowing in the country, he will be forced to eliminate the upper ranks at a quicker and quicker rate to stay ahead of it. The harder he presses, the more likely he is to force an armed rebellion.

      Kim is caught between a rock and a hard place, he must maintain the appearance of absolute control in the face of mounting internal pressure for change and free market reforms which are already (illegally) taking place inside his country in some places. He can start ramping up the killing, but that will eventually be his undoing. Once the country tips and Kim is removed from power, the resulting violent struggle will happen quickly, but the problem is, nobody will really be able to tell you exactly when the tip will take place.

      I think your defector is likely correct in that the *current* conditions are not yet ripe for this tip and Kim will stay in power for the foreseeable future. However, I think change will eventually come to NK though internal forces, barring it being forced into change though external forces. Will it be a decade, two or three? I don't know, but it's pretty clear that change is coming to NK and that change will likely happen while the current Kim is alive..

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    6. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Once the country tips though, there will be a short and intense period of violence that I hope stays contained within the country, but I fear will spill out to the south. Once that is over, North Korea will be split into two parts, one unified with the south and a portion annexed into China. I have no idea where the split will be.

      Somehow I find that implausible, I expect China to take the whole country or not at all. South Korea would be to worried about a conventional or nuclear counter-attack on Seoul to do much of anything while China could probably swoop in and install a new authoritarian regime that by NK standards would seem like heaven, all they need to do is bring them into the 21th century. After that I'll think it'll be a bit like Life of Brian:

      Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
      Attendee: Brought peace?
      Reg: Oh, peace - shut up!
      Reg: There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this country of the Romans once and for all.
      Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
      Reg: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.

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      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    7. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by bobbied · · Score: 1

      You may be right, but I think South Korea might be a bit miffed if China gets the whole pie and I'm not so sure China wants to get involved in North Korea's struggles if it can avoid it. It will cost a LOT of money and resources to bring the north up to third world standards and I don't think China wants to be forced into spending on this. South Korea, on the other hand, has both the resources and the will to do this. I think the key will be what the USA does in partnership with South Korea and how committed the two countries are to ending the decades long war (or police action or what ever it really is/was). So it will likely fall to who is in the Whitehouse and how the United Nations tries to deal with the crisis.

      Either way, we will be very lucky if the Korean war doesn't start up again... China will want something so they won't let the whole country go, but South Korea *will* make noticeable gains though this process.

      Of course this is assuming things are similar in the world as they are now.... Things could change and if the USA is occupied elsewhere or incapable of controlling events, obviously China will drive the outcome more. However, I don't see the USA in that condition right now...

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    8. Re:"North Korean rebel movement" by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't surprise me if some people believed that our movies and information are just our propaganda to deceive them.

      Well, that's not too far from the truth. Not that we are actively trying to deceive them, but there are plenty of North Korean defectors that upon reaching South Korea are disillusioned that what they saw in South Korean soap operas and movies, usually portraying well to do if not upper classes, is not the reality for the common person.

  9. Re:Assassinate that fat ..... by bobbied · · Score: 1

    ASAP

    I'm sure we could if we wanted too, but ask yourself a few "what happens then" questions and I think it will be pretty easy to figure out why he's still alive. What's the point of killing this guy if his replacement isn't any better and in the fight to see who's left in charge a lot of people die? Then there is the question about what this means for the Korean War, which is technically still NOT over. North Korea might (Or likely would) see this action as a provocation and reignite the war. Now THAT would not be a pleasant turn of events, even if the conflict would likely be pretty short and one sided.

    No, Kim lives.... As much as we might want change in NK, I don't think killing Kim is the way to get the change we want..

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    "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
  10. Re:They must have used huge packaging... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really think they are talking about 20 copies on the same thumb drive. They are talking about 20 thumb drives, probably on 20 different trucks to reduce the chances of it not making it to its destination.

  11. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I gather you did not read the article, since the guy who came up with that trick is the subject of the article.

  12. Re:They must have used huge packaging... by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    'Chinese traders' trucks carried 20 copies of the film across the border the day after Christmas, just two days after its online release.'

    So that would be 20 times about 2GB, which easily fits on one 64G usb-stick the size of an inch. What did they need the trucks for ?

    There were extensive liner notes.

  13. Re:They must have used huge packaging... by dysmal · · Score: 1

    Clearly you've never seen how much packaging online retailers like Amazon can use for such a small object during the holidays!

  14. Sneaker Net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Literally.

  15. Solution to the smuggling. by Charcharodon · · Score: 0
    Why haven't we "smuggled" a 2,000lb JDAM into North Korea to where ol' Kimmy boy sleeps at night? That would end most of this stupidity in the time it takes for it to be delivered from 40,000ft.

    And before you say "Well his smarter generals will just take over"

    I will counter with a quote from The Engineer "how am I go to stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind.....the answer use a gun...and if that don't work, use more gun."

    If one doesn't work, apply a second, third, fourth...twentieth. Don't worry, we can always make more.

    1. Re:Solution to the smuggling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because they'd nuke SK in response. We could destroy NK's military, but not before they inflicted massive civilian casualties in SK. China would also raise a stink about it - they don't want NK actually setting off nukes, but they don't want to share a border with a prosperous Korea either. The current situation works pretty well for them.

    2. Re:Solution to the smuggling. by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Why haven't we "smuggled" a 2,000lb JDAM into North Korea to where ol' Kimmy boy sleeps at night?

      One good reason is that any outbreak of open war would very likely result in the immediate deaths of tens of thousands of South Koreans in Seoul. The South Korean capital is only 35 miles from the North Korean border, and the North Korean government is relying on a sort of mutually-assured-destruction strategy there to deter foreign attacks.

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      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
    3. Re:Solution to the smuggling. by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
      See the answer above about using "more gun"

      The progressives in this country are hot and heavy to get rid of all of the US's nukes. A NK disposal solution, also known as a two-fer, would take care of things.

      I highly doubt NK could detect a Cessna, much less ICBMs warheads before it was too late.

  16. Proving once again by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 1

    The Chinese media distribution system is days more efficient at distributing movies than Hollywood is.

    Chew on *that*, MPAA!

  17. The Interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing smuggling The Interview into North Korea will accomplish will be to convince North Koreans that the United States is completely nuts.

  18. How cruel by XB-70 · · Score: 1
    The poor, oppressed North Korean people live under a cruel dictator and then, to make their lives even worse, we subject them to Hollywood.

    We are almost as evil as Kim Jong Un.

    Why not just give them weapons and intel?

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    *** Don't be dull.***
    1. Re:How cruel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be worse for them if they were poor living in New Jersey

  19. never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As the saying goes, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of usb drives.