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First Fully Digital Radio Transmitter Built Purely From Microprocessor Tech

Zothecula writes For the first time in history, a prototype radio has been created that is claimed to be completely digital, generating high-frequency radio waves purely through the use of integrated circuits and a set of patented algorithms without using conventional analog radio circuits in any way whatsoever. This breakthrough technology promises to vastly improve the wireless communications capabilities of everything from 5G mobile technology to the multitude devices aimed at supporting the Internet of Things (IoT).

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  1. B.S. Alert by Lije+Baley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No actual info in article, just hype and buzzwords.

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    1. Re:B.S. Alert by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Informative

      The article says: "The Pizzicato digital radio transmitter consists of an integrated circuit outputting a single stream of bits, and an antenna ".

      That doesn't sound like 'Purely from Microprocessor Tech' to me. It sounds like a strap-on peripheral chip, which is not at all 'Purely microprocessor.'

    2. Re:B.S. Alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article says: "The Pizzicato digital radio transmitter consists of an integrated circuit outputting a single stream of bits, and an antenna ".

      That doesn't sound like 'Purely from Microprocessor Tech' to me. It sounds like a strap-on peripheral chip, which is not at all 'Purely microprocessor.'

      At a guess: the engineer came up with some cool ideas that simplified things/made them smaller/gave some technical advantage, then marketting completely misrepresented their work via this festering pile of half-understood buzzwords and hype.

      Outputting a stream of bits into an antenna? With no convential radio circuits (like filters, DA converters, PWM, amps etc)? No. Just no.

    3. Re:B.S. Alert by mixed_signal · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most of the people commenting on this story have no clue about signal processing or radios. It is quite possible to feed a "stream of bits" to an analog filter and create a clean analog signal. This is effectively what 1-bit delta-sigma data converters do, and it is close to what Class-D audio amplifiers do. The trick is indeed doing this with wide bandwidth signals and sufficient oversampling to have good signal quality. To get wide bandwidth at 5GHz, they probably are running the sampling rate in the GHz range to get a few 10's of MHz bandwidth and picking off (filtering/selecting) a harmonic at 5GHz. An antenna and matching network are a type of filter network. There's a lot of innovation in these areas, and it's annoying to see uniformed /.'ers dumping on an area they don't understand.

    4. Re:B.S. Alert by Lije+Baley · · Score: 2

      What you say is plenty familiar to some of us, but RTFA and you'll see that it gives no technical clue as to what their innovative contribution is. It just sounds like it was written to attract uninformed investors.

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    5. Re:B.S. Alert by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      Right. Then it's a peripheral chip embedded onto the same die as a microprocessor. And still not a microprocessor.

    6. Re:B.S. Alert by mixed_signal · · Score: 4, Informative

      The posts here I'm referring to are mindlessly dumping on the whole idea or possibility of there either being anything novel here or that it would actually work. Similar techniques are quite common in signal processing and audio, and we've been approaching all-digital radio technology incrementally for about 20 years now. The biggest novelty here is that they're claiming to be effectively all digital at 5GHz. While "Microprocessor Tech" may be an annoying marketing buzzword or mangling of terminology, the digital techniques and circuitry are valid, some of them are probably novel, and there are indeed many similarities to digital processing circuits found in microprocessors, as the original press release states. There's hype in their release about "no traditional radio parts," where there's likely to be at least an antenna match, but that's not the level of detail these folks are writing about here. Disappointing for a technology oriented site.

    7. Re:B.S. Alert by mixed_signal · · Score: 2

      Well, they'd better have something to show... From the release:
      "Cambridge Consultants is demonstrating Pizzicato at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, March 2-5, stand 7B21 in Hall 7."

    8. Re:B.S. Alert by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      This is both NOT the first time, and as stated, NOT purely microprocessor tech.

      For the real McCoy, look back to the 70s, with the Altair.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    9. Re:B.S. Alert by bug1 · · Score: 2

      For the first time in history, a prototype story has been created that is claimed to be completely buzzwords,

  2. BS - You can't patent algorithms by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Must be a slow news day. You can't patent algorithms

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    1. Re:BS - You can't patent algorithms by nichogenius · · Score: 2

      You can try... and there's a high chance that a jury wouldn't know that.

  3. The trick is a clean signal with no harmonics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No problem generating RF with digital circuits; it has been done for decades. The trick is to generate clean frequencies with no significant harmonic content and no spurs. Now perhaps the cicuits used in this article are digital and analog on one silicon substrate. Certainly a DAC can be made using a semiconductor resistor network fabbed on the same substrate as the digital electronics. And capacitors and inductors can be fabbed on a silicon substrate. I would like to see the details of what they are actually doing. "Pure digital" sounds like a phony to me.

  4. Oh Come On, it's a Press Release by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, no real technical data and some absurd claims here.

    First all-digital transceiver? No. There have been others. Especially if you allow them to have a DAC and an ADC and no other components in the analog domain, but even without that, there are lots of IoT-class radios with direct-to-digital detectors and digital outputs directly to the antenna. You might have one in your car remote (mine is two-way).

    And they have to use patented algorithms? Everybody else can get along with well-known technology old enough that any applicable patents are long expired.

    It would be nicer if there was some information about what they are actually doing. If they really have patented it, there's no reason to hold back.

  5. TI calculators by Zeroko · · Score: 2

    People have done this on TI calculators (& likely other systems with similarly little shielding & sufficient clock rates). No hardware support needed—just cause some long enough trace (e.g. on the data bus) to oscillate at the correct frequency. Granted, a 6 MHz Z80 can pretty much only only do AM radio (& can only be picked up right next to the radio), but the principle is not new.

  6. Utter garbage by Ozoner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could build a "Fully Digital Radio Transmitter" in a few minutes using a Crystal and a CMOS gate.

  7. We did this in 1967 on the IBM 1620 by k2backhoe · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 1620 was an all digital machine built of discrete transistors. As an undergraduate, we wrote programs that caused the machine to alternate between two loops at a variable rate. The computer radiated so many harmonics that this could be heard all across the AM band where no strong station existed. We programmed it to play (mostly) classical music, "Flight of the Bumblebee" was the perennial favorite. Any truly all digital transmitter will generate harmonics outside of the allowable FCC band, so at the very least they need a really good analog bandpass filter on the output.

  8. Hertz and Marconi beat them to it by Gim+Tom · · Score: 2

    Uh, The spark gap transmitters used by Hertz and Marconi were digital (Morse code is a digital protocol) and for the most part the only tuning was done by the antenna. Latter there was some sort of tank circuit or resonant tuning added, but I don't think so in the beginning.

  9. I'm already doing this at home by naich · · Score: 2

    I already listen to music from my Raspberry Pi using it as a transmitter with no analogue components - http://naich.net/wordpress/?p=...