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In 10 Years, Every Human Connected To the Internet Will Have a Timeline

Presto Vivace writes: O'Reilly Radar has an article about how ubiquitous tracking and collection of data will fundamentally change how we live. Quoting: "This timeline — beginning for newborns at Year Zero — will be so intrinsic to life that it will quickly be taken for granted. Those without a timeline will be at a huge disadvantage. Those with a good one will have the tricks of a modern mentalist: perfect recall, suggestions for how to curry favor, ease maintaining friendships and influencing strangers, unthinkably higher Dunbar numbers — now, every interaction has a history. This isn’t just about lifelogging health data, like your Fitbit or Jawbone. It isn’t about financial data, like Mint. It isn’t just your social graph or photo feed. It isn’t about commuting data like Waze or Maps. It’s about all of these, together, along with the tools and user interfaces and agents to make sense of it."

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  1. What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is already the case - we don't have to wait ten years. Except to actually have access to our own timelines - right now they are under tight government/corporate security.

    1. Re:What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by ranton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This story is about how this will fundamentally change the way we live (and government surveillance doesn't do that). The article mentions how a great deal of this data is already being collected and is somewhat accessible to the masses. But it contends that within 10 years a standard individual will have an instant connection to a very holistic view of this data.

      The social contract will fundamentally change when this information becomes so easily accessible. Knowing a slightly abridged version of the life story of everyone who walks past you in the supermarket instantaneously. Having the cliff notes of the past few conversations you had with every friend / coworker as soon as you are about to talk with them again. The benefits and of course the privacy concerns are staggering. But I am among those who believe the benefits will be so great that people will gladly give up their privacy for them. Mostly out of ignorance of what they are actually giving up, but they will lose it all the same.

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    2. Re:What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm kinda glad I was born before the complete Timeline Age then.

      Sometimes people forget the importance of Not Being Seen .

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    3. Re:What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by facetube · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pervasive government surveillance doesn't fundamentally change the way we live? Tell that to the people who now self-censor to avoid ending up on a no-travel list, the journalists whose families are repeatedly detained at border crossings on manufactured "terrorism" suspicion, the technology companies and countries who are increasingly avoiding doing business with anyone in United States, the software developers who repeatedly get their laptops and phones confiscated at US ports of entry, the international tourists who now refuse to even fly through the US on their way to somewhere else, and the giant hole in basic infrastructure funding that's instead going toward a full-take federal wiretap facility in Utah.

      The social contract has already changed, and certainly not for the better.

    4. Re:What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by kheldan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Never mind 'What do you mean 'in ten years'', how about 'not at all'? I am not a participant in ANY social media at this point, and even when I did I NEVER used my real name or even allowed people to post photographs of my face. When forced to use my real name, it's for things like purchases. There is no 'timeline' for me, nor would I allow such, and to sit there and say 'you can't avoid it' is extremely naive and defeatist. There still is such a thing as privacy -- you just have to fight for it.

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    5. Re:What do you mean 'in 10 years'? by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am not a participant in ANY social media at this point

      You don't define slashdot as 'social media'?

      But I know you live in the US. You're somewhere in your late 40's. And like to ride bikes. And train on said bikes a lot because you're on a road race team. And that's just the first page of your slashdot comments that I idly flicked through.

      I suppose you could tell me that's all part of the plan and that you're actually a dog........

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  2. The Elephant Internet by skgrey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Great, so now the breakup of my ex-girlfriend from years is going to be used by others when judging my worth in relationships, or maybe health data. Or finance. Data is beautiful, but it can be really evil. Deeds will no longer be forgotten at some point; we'll be the sum of all of our decisions on the inside *and now* the outside for everyone to see.

    1. Re:The Elephant Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't worry. As usual the article is written by a nitwit who doesn't know jack shit and just started to realize what Internet is.
      After a couple of years the person will have a more realistic outlook on the technology. Unfortunately the eternal September ensures that another nitwit will write the same scare story again.

    2. Re:The Elephant Internet by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, it won't be the breakup with your ex-girlfriend from years ago that you will be judged on. You will be judged based on that STD that your timeline says you had ten years ago, as reported by a doctor you never saw (or even heard of). The problem isn't that deeds will never be forgotten (well, OK that will be a problem too). It is that deeds you never committed, but the database says you did, will never be forgotten.

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  3. Bullshit by tekrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In 10 years, half of humanity will have had enough of this bullshit and will have hacked their way to privacy, or have decided that the internet just isn't worth it, or will have adapted multiple identities so as to confuse others.

    And I should know, as I am traditionally an early-adopter, and have taken all three paths myself. I am also currently at the point of thinking it's better to destroy the current internet and rebuild it -- but without all the bullshit.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In 10 years, half of humanity will have had enough of this bullshit and will have hacked their way to privacy, or have decided that the internet just isn't worth it, or will have adapted multiple identities so as to confuse others.

      And I should know, as I am traditionally an early-adopter, and have taken all three paths myself. I am also currently at the point of thinking it's better to destroy the current internet and rebuild it -- but without all the bullshit.

      The internet is certainly better off without the 50% which is complete bullshit. The problem is, at this point we have no idea which 50% that is.

  4. Those without a timeline will be at an advantage by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those without a timeline will be at a huge advantage

    There, fixed that for you. If influencing strangers is named as an advantage, I strongly disagree. Strangers more likely influence anyone with a publicly available profile. Remaining anonymous gets more important every day.

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  5. The folly of youth becomes the folly of life? by dpilot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does this mean that the follies of your youth become held against you for your entire life? Even if we were somehow shielded until we're 18, youthful mistakes don't stop then. There has been quite a bit of study now that important developments in the brain continue into the mid 20's. Heck, since we often accept anecdotal fiction as evidence around /., think of Scrooge. He had a life-changing event relatively late in life.

    At one extreme, we freeze everyone into the patterns of their youth. At the other, "I've changed, I've learned since then," becomes a mantra that absolves all responsibility. The difference here is that in the real world, people know you, your speech and actions, and how they all change with time, so they're at least equipped to make a decent judgement, even if that doesn't always happen. In non-meat-space those things aren't necessarily true, especially as so much incoming information is filtered to confirm one's current world-view.

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  6. er, okay. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The argument being asserted is predicated on the idea that in 10 years everyone will be a drooling simpleton incapable of action outside of consuming the product. you're always going to have hackers writing pedometers for android and scoffing at a pay for play system that puts them at a genuine disadvantage. Its why safety razors and thrift shop clothing are making a comeback despite a multibillion dollar shoe sales convention with a rubber ball.

    Those without a timeline will be at a huge disadvantage.

    you told me the same thing about google plus, facebook, myspace, twitter, instagram, youtube, vine, secondlife, and tumblr. I seem to have suffered no loss in "advantage" though. Let me put it in your terms, maybe that will help. #GETOFFMYLAWN.

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  7. I don't know by ugen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For now the big 3 credit reporting agencies can't even make a decent snapshot of what I *am* now, never mind any past history.

    I am constantly surprised by incorrect addresses, wrong phones, misspelled names and other such junk (mostly because data entry clerks elsewhere can't be bothered to enter data right, or poorly designed "business systems" don't handle it properly).

    My driver license from one state was not properly canceled, when I moved and obtained license in another - so for a while, unknowingly, I had two parallel driver licenses and separate records (even though presumably states share that information).

    The only place where information about me seems to resemble anything like reality is my own linkedin profile, and that's because I care to keep it correct.

    That's not to say there isn't a ton of information on each and every one of us, and the amount keeps growing. However, most of that information is of poor quality, and not organized - something I wouldn't expect to change anytime soon. The only danger I see is that new generation is conditioned to maintain their own timeline and do the information-cleaning job for the big corporations and government for free. So, let's wait and see, shall we.

  8. Small Town, Small World by tomhath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A couple of generations ago this was also true for most people. In a small town everyone knew you, your family, and everything about you. It some places that's still true. You did (and do) have the option of moving away; but that meant you were starting out in a new place with no timeline.

  9. That would be a nightmare. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Knowing a slightly abridged version of the life story of everyone who walks past you in the supermarket instantaneously.

    I have spent the last 20 years growing. I am not the very hostile and shy person I was years ago.

    To have people bring up things from 20 years ago and use it to judge me now would be a nightmare. At least with people who have known me all these years, they have seen the changes and have mostly forgotten or let go my past behavior. But to have people who see my past without context and the long and hard work I have put into being a better person would ruin me.

    Technology is increasingly removing our ability to make mistakes and move on with our lives. That is a hellish future.

    1. Re:That would be a nightmare. by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe technology will encourage people to learn forgiveness, and to filter out the superfluous.

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    2. Re:That would be a nightmare. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh.

    3. Re:That would be a nightmare. by mbone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah, but doesn't everyone go through at least a mildly awkward adolescence? You'd see all their "crappy poetry written in blood' moments, too.

      Yes, and what that means is that, while the youthful indiscretions of those favored by the system will be ignored, those of anyone who stands in the way of powerful interests will be used to persecute them.

    4. Re:That would be a nightmare. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is not a technology problem. It is a human nature problems. A vast majority of people right now are more then willing to look the other way and understand that you do different things when you were younger. I see the problem is once the media gets involved or there is a ground swell publishing the incident or you are in a "group", people as individuals are afraid to admit they willing to look the other way because they themselves do not want to become the subject of the scrutiny. People are afraid to look the other way publicly because another group with an agenda might make a big deal about it. This happens now with teenagers in real life. Ask any girl what she thinks about some boy or another girl or some topic. As a group of girls what they think about the same and you will probably get a totally different response.

      When I was in junior high, a friend of mine got caught pleasing himself by some other friends peeking in his window. Word of that got out. Being his friend, I got to see both sides of what happened after. Close friends never said anything mean to him directly and really nothing changed, they all joked about it and it was forgotten and never mentioned again. Those same friends though when he was not around would laugh and tell stories, the subject came up all the time, "Hey, there's spanky". Statistically, most of those boys also pleasured themselves but they did not get caught doing it.

      Opinions of individuals in crowds are not true opinions. Good and bad.

      I have strong opinions about homosexuality, race, color, creed, bullying, and many others but I would NEVER tell them exactly as they are to a large crowd for general public consumption. Society changes and although many of my feelings probably follow mainstream, they may not later and my true opinions on those things are also subject to and often change over time as well as I see and experience more things. I don't want my current views on things to be cemented to a post I made in December 14th, 2003 in a forum post.

    5. Re:That would be a nightmare. by William+Baric · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I already know more about the life of Mark Zuckerburg than Mark Zuckerburg knows about my life, you silly man.

  10. How stupid can people get? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who believes this garbage deserves what they get. Time to go outside for a bit, people. Your virtual existence is not real, and if you think it defines who you are, you're as sick as the junkie who thinks the most important thing in their life is their next fix.

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  11. Already discussed via sci-fi by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The movie, In Time, touches on the subject of a timeline for a person. As Wikipedia relates, Harlan Ellison had already written a similar story as well as a few others.

    Despite this, I can see people not appreciating or caring about a timeline. I know it's hard to believe but there are millions (billions?) of people who use the Net strictly for general communication and research rather than the be all and end all to life.

    As we've seen with smart phones, more technology does not necessarily make our lives easier. People are becoming so addictive to being connected, of needing to see if their lives are validated through tweets and pictures, that this timeline may send some over the edge as they desperately search for something to make themselves seem like someone.

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  12. Re:Those without a timeline will be at an advantag by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I considered that, and have cut/am cutting off other forms of voluntarily information/thought exposure. But with /. there's no point. This has been my homepage for 15 years. I can't imagine how many reams of e-paper I've written on here in that time. I am absolutely easily doxxable, and anybody who's mining this site already knows everything I think. And you can't delete your accounts and posts. I'm already naked here, so there's no point being modest now.

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  13. Re:Those without a timeline will be at an advantag by Enigma2175 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously? Read a book. Watch the History Channel

    Why, so I can learn about "Ancient Aliens"? Or learn about how items are priced when pawned? Or keep track of the doings of "Swamp People"? I support your idea (learn history!) but watching the History Channel is one of the worst ways to do that.

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  14. Re:Where do I opt out? by William+Baric · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In an Amish colony, everyone will know everything about you.