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A Year On, What Flight Simulators Can't Prove About Flight MH370

NBC News, a year after the loss of Malaysian Airlines flight 370, has an interesting piece about various scenarios that would explain the plane's disappearance. From the article: The theory that the pilots turned west because of an emergency is undermined because they did not head back toward Kuala Lumpur, according to retired NTSB senior investigator Greg Feith. ... Feith said that turning off the communications and taking the aircraft to the remote Indian Ocean was a course of action consistent with someone trying to purposefully lose an airliner. "It's 20,000-plus feet deep there," Feith said. "It's going be very difficult to find." He added that "the first thing you're going to do" as a pilot during an emergency is "don the oxygen mask" and "confess to ATC [air traffic control], 'We've got an issue, we need to return.'" Feith, who investigated other so-called "murder-suicide" airline crashes while at the NTSB, said that he has "always postured at least that this was an intentional act by one or both pilots."

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  1. Re:Just let go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this still a thing?

    Because the plane hasn't been found.

  2. Re:Just let go. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not terrorism because the purpose of terrorism is to affect political change through fear and violence. There was no video threat or claiming of responsibility, so no political motivation, so no terrorism.

  3. Re:it will never be found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    NO ONE KNOWS what happens on that island. NO ONE.

    Yet you know that plane has landed there. Sure.

  4. Re:Wired article wheel fire by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except there are procedures for clearing a cabin of smoke, even with an ongoing fire.

    That's like saying no one could ever be trapped in a burning building because it has sprinklers, fire escapes, and an evacuation plan,

    Even firefighters get trapped and killed -- and they're professionally trained to work around out of control fires, and to bring them under control.

  5. Re:Wired article wheel fire by Dereck1701 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You assume that those procedures are always going to work after....... a fire! Its not inconceivable that a fire on an airliner could damage vital components possibly related to the environmental, radio and even control systems. Don't get me wrong its an unlikely situation where the radio AND avionics/air handling/navigation systems and their backups (if any) are effected simultaneously but when you have 36.5 million commercial air flights per year its bound to happen eventually.

  6. Re:In related news... by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All these 9/11 conspiracy theories follow the same pattern:

    1) I don't know how something happened
    2) ?????
    3) Therefore the government did it and is covering it up

    You're missing a giant piece of logic there on step number 2.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  7. Re:Russia pre-emptively accusing US by mi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly. Thank you very much for providing yet another link to illustrate my point.

    Newsweek is not saying, US did it. The title of the article is "Russian State Media Says [emphasis mine -mi] CIA Shot Down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17".

    And yet, a casual reader would just notice Russia and NATO "trading accusations" — and discount both sides equally...

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  8. Re:Just let go. by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until we find wreckage, we have no idea what happened to the plane, nor how to prevent it from happening again.

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    When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
  9. Re:Just let go. by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes likely. So put a dollar value on the safety issues. We have statistically the single safest form of transport. You're far more likely to die on the way to the airport than on the plane itself. How much money should we spend on making it even safer?

    Its the same thought process as anti-terror. Terrorism is a rounding error statistically in the ways that you are likely to die. Yet we spend billions on anti-terror while roads with huge potholes, blind corners, kill people every day and yet their repair remains unfunded.

    We have my own government telling us on a daily basis that times are tough and we need to make tough decisions and that we shouldn't expect healthcare or university to remain cheap, we should expect the pension to be reduced and to live tougher lives, all while writing a blank check to determine what happened to a plane carrying a number of people who were statistically undertaking possibly the safest activity they could to get from a to b.

    Yes this is all statistics. But here's one certainty: When they find MH317 they won't find anything that will make air travel earthshatteringly safer.

    We have long ago reached the point of diminishing returns.