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Yik Yak Raises Controversy On College Campuses

HughPickens.com writes Jonathan Mahler writes in the NYT that just as Facebook swept through the dorm rooms of America's college students a decade ago, the social app Yik Yak, which shows anonymous messages from users within a 1.5-mile radius is now taking college campuses by storm. "Think of it as a virtual community bulletin board — or maybe a virtual bathroom wall at the student union," writes Mahler. "It has become the go-to social feed for college students across the country to commiserate about finals, to find a party or to crack a joke about a rival school." While much of the chatter is harmless, some of it is not. "Yik Yak is the Wild West of anonymous social apps," says Danielle Keats Citron. "It is being increasingly used by young people in a really intimidating and destructive way." Since the app's introduction a little more than a year ago, Yik Yak has been used to issue threats of mass violence on more than a dozen college campuses, including the University of North Carolina, Michigan State University and Penn State. Racist, homophobic and misogynist "yaks" have generated controversy at many more, among them Clemson, Emory, Colgate and the University of Texas. At Kenyon College, a "yakker" proposed a gang rape at the school's women's center.

Colleges are largely powerless to deal with the havoc Yik Yak is wreaking. The app's privacy policy prevents schools from identifying users without a subpoena, court order or search warrant, or an emergency request from a law-enforcement official with a compelling claim of imminent harm. Esha Bhandari, a staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union, argues that "banning Yik Yak on campuses might be unconstitutional," especially at public universities or private colleges in California where the so-called Leonard Law protects free speech. She said it would be like banning all bulletin boards in a school just because someone posted a racist comment on one of the boards. In one sense, the problem with Yik Yak is a familiar one. Anyone who has browsed the comments of an Internet post is familiar with the sorts of intolerant, impulsive rhetoric that the cover of anonymity tends to invite. But Yik Yak's particular design can produce especially harmful consequences, its critics say. "It's a problem with the Internet culture in general, but when you add this hyper-local dimension to it, it takes on a more disturbing dimension," says Elias Aboujaoude." "You don't know where the aggression is coming from, but you know it's very close to you."

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  1. Baking political correctness in society by HBI · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The effect is to create something like this - an anonymous way for people to let out the aggressions and hatreds that they already had, and are just afraid to announce due to the attempted control of speech in any public, identifiable arena.

    Maybe leaving things alone was better? Sacrificing free speech for a better society was the argument. So now what? We're stuck with the bad with none of the good.

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    1. Re:Baking political correctness in society by HBI · · Score: 5, Interesting

      OK, Try listening to some television recorded in the 1970s or 1980s and then listen to today's equivalent. Back then, people would identify each other by ethnicity and criticize each other openly. Nada today. Demonstrates a clear censorship, and calling it 'self-censorship' is bullshit, it's a centrally mandated process. Everyone feels better, right? But when anonymity is achieved, as in trolls on the net and this service, people show their true colors.

      Being oblivious to the process doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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    2. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wow, who is making the argument that we should "sacrifice free speech for a better society"?

      The answer is this person, among others: http://www.thecrimson.com/colu...

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    3. Re:Baking political correctness in society by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, who is making the argument that we should "sacrifice free speech for a better society"?

      Pretty much everyone who mentions "hate speech" as an issue. Which, of course, includes the governments of every country with hate speech laws....

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    4. Re:Baking political correctness in society by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the classic harsh internet reality that society doesn't like to face. To have true free speech, you must have anonymity. But some of that free speech is going to be things that society isn't used to hearing (and doesn't want to hear), because society isn't used to true anonymity.

      Look at it as an insight into how people REALLY feel--when they're not compelled by threat of expulsion/arrest/harassment to be polite and politically correct.

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    5. Re:Baking political correctness in society by blue+trane · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The words are just symbols. The emotions you attach to them are your own. The problem is projection: "the only way I could say that is if I were a bad person. Therefore, the person who said it is a bad person." But that psychological logic forgets humor, lies, and bots.

      More free speech, leading to more virtual violence, should reduce the need for physical violence. We should be fighting ISIS's words on social media, not trying to ban them.

    6. Re:Baking political correctness in society by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wow, who is making the argument that we should "sacrifice free speech for a better society"?

      Pretty much every university in the U.S. and Europe at this point. Saying the wrong thing that offends someone on a college campus these days will get you kicked out faster than banging Dean Wormer's wife. You don't even have real free speech rights anymore in the few "free speech areas" that they've allotted. It's all-but-considered assault if you make a comment that can even be CONSTRUED as offensive.

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    7. Re:Baking political correctness in society by c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...an anonymous way for people to let out the aggressions and hatreds that they already had, and are just afraid to announce...

      I doubt it.

      Most of them are just trolls. You know, bored assholes who've learned exactly which buttons to press to get the most reaction out of society.

      That being said, the root of the problem is the same; political correctness is fundamentally just a way to tell the trolls which buttons are the best.

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    8. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anonymous speech's purpose is to be able to say things that might be harmful to YOU if you say them. Using anonymous speech to say things that are harmful to OTHERS is cowardly and generally speaking not protected by the First Amendment nor should it.

      And who gets to decide which is which? If I say "Black people commit most of the violent crime in this country and it's time we stop excusing them for it" that is certainly an opinion that could get a student expelled on almost any college campus (and quite likely, attacked or threatened by blacks). But a sensitive black student could also argue that it was "hate speech" that harmed him or her. So is that free speech? Or is free speech only speech that couldn't possible offend anyone?

    9. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, yes it is. Censorship can indeed apply even if there is no government action involved. What does not come into play if there is no government action involved is the First Amendment

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    10. Re:Baking political correctness in society by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not this.

      Look at it as an insight into how people REALLY feel ...

      The cloak of anonymity is not the cloak of truthfulness.

      "Troll," is not a new or complex concept. It is graffiti. Sure, some of it is offensive or upsetting, but we should be concerned only when an ordinace of law has been violated.

      For instance, spray painting the "N" word on public places is classified as hate speech. Changing that to, "The mayor sux." would simply be defacing property, at best.

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    11. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Liberal folks, this is your issue. The conservatives and libertarians are all over preserving the right to speech. Where is your support for the same?

      Liberals are by definition "all over preserving the right to speech".

      Authoritarian progressives are not.

      Authoritarian progressives have taken over some of the political and social organs often associated in popular thought with "liberalism". I think this can be traced back to the 1988 Presidential campaign, when Bush attacked Dukakis as a "card carrying member of the ACLU", and rather than pushing back with "yes, I support civil liberties as enshrined in the Bill of Rights -- you don't? Shame on you!", the Democrats began a retreat from those values.

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    12. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      OK, Try listening to some television recorded in the 1970s or 1980s and then listen to today's equivalent. Back then, people would identify each other by ethnicity and criticize each other openly. Nada today. Demonstrates a clear censorship, and calling it 'self-censorship' is bullshit, it's a centrally mandated process. Everyone feels better, right?

      What you call self-censorship I would call being civil. A society establishes rules and norms for behaviors it considers acceptable, and individuals are still free to act contrary to those norms; however such actions are subject to the condemnation of society at large.

      But when anonymity is achieved, as in trolls on the net and this service, people show their true colors.

      Being oblivious to the process doesn't mean it didn't happen.

      There are always assholes in this world; and most are cowards who would hide behind anonymity to avoid getting their ass kicked. Others simply think it's funny without regard to the consequences of their actions; that is especially true, as studies show, of teenagers who have not yet fully developed the capacity to think their actions through to possible consequences.

      I am all for free speech, even what I would find distasteful, since censoring it doesn't allow people to address issues it raises and the best way to address bad ideas is to expose them to the light of day. However, schools also have the problem of balancing speech with acting in the face of a threat. It's all well and good to say most of them are simply juvenile jokes, even if they do hurt others, and will not be acted on; however how do you separate those from a real threat. More importantly, how do accomplish that without trampling on free speech rights?

      As an aside, I find the Leonard Law interesting in that it compels private institutions to comply with government limit son restricting speech. What I find interesting is it was proposed by a Republican, which goes to show they are for private property rights and limited government until someone does something they don't like and then the "heavy hand" of "government overreach" is brought out to compile someone to comply with their viewpoint of what is correct. Sometimes I think the two parties in the US should merge and just call themselves the Hypocrisy Party with the head of an ass and the body of an elephant to demonstrate their thinking capacity and view of the proper size of a government.

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    13. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      will get you kicked out faster than banging Dean Wormer's wife.

      Only if you are on double secret probation.

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    14. Re:Baking political correctness in society by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That isn't really how people proejct though, a person seldom attributes his own actions to his own nature. Its more like "I said this because I was upset" or "I said that because he was an asshole and deserved to hear it." whereas "he said that because he is a racist" or "he said that because he is an asshole".

      That would be more how people tend to actually think about things.... I stole from the store because I ...was bored and seeking thrills or .... was hungry and needed money.

      You stole from the store because you think its ok to steal and you are entitled to it.

      See how different we can be. I do everything for exeternal reasons, everyone else just follows their nature.

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    15. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Attempt to say or write anything that is outside the bounds of political correctness and the peer groups will swoop in and ostracize you regardless of how benign the comment was.

      Hil-fucking-larious. You demonstrate the fallacy so many people have about free speech.

      Let me lay it out for you:

      You are allowed to have your opinion.

      They are allowed to have theirs

      It does not mean you posit what you like, and no one is allowed to respond to it.

      That isn't free speech at all.

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    16. Re:Baking political correctness in society by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actual liberals are against censorship. But that's a statement in English, not in Americanese.

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    17. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The words are just symbols. The emotions you attach to them are your own. The problem is projection:

      Back when I was in school, we had a rash of bomb threats. All fake.

      But every time, they evacuated the school. Instead of being in a nice warm building we shivered outside in the cold.

      Eventually, they caught the kid responsible for doing this.

      Was his free speech violated because he was arrested for making those threats?

      Fast forward to modern times.....

      Now here are some cases below, where threats were made, and some students were arrested

      http://www.collegian.psu.edu/n...

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

      Were their free speech rights violated?

      If someone calls you and tells you there is a bomb planted in your house are you going to ignore it? Was the person just exercising their free speech to get you all freaked out and leave the place?

      People get so confused about free speech. It's always good to remember the old adage - The rights of your fist end abruptly at my face. Purposeful disruption by threats of violence are never appropriate.

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    18. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was wondering what got you on double secret probation. I was on secret probation once. I didn't find out until suspension that I was ever on probation.

      Nothing much:

      dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the varsity swim meet

      delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner

      filled trees with underwear every Halloween

      toilets exploding in the spring

      As a result, seven years of college down the drain.

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    19. Re:Baking political correctness in society by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a bipartisan issue. The liberals want to ban things they don't like and so do the conservatives. Free speech is fine as long as you don't say things that aren't acceptable. I remember that people used to have much thicker skin though about 4 or 5 decades ago. Now if you hurt someone's feelings it's the end of the world. I'm pretty sure the world wont end with a bang or a whimper but a whine.

  2. Re:Public Service Announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, they're not. A prostitute will go away.

  3. So, don't download it by Aqualung812 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I downloaded Yik Yak and used it for about a week. I saw what was going on there.

    If you are disturbed by what you see on there, delete the app. Let those idiots spew toxic shit at each other, and you can go on unaware of their ramblings.

    Eventually, Yik Yak will die off, and the "problem" is solved.

    Or, do you somehow think we can pass some law that will change human nature?

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  4. Re:Anonymous speech *is* the problem by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anonymity doesn't just empower assholes. It also empowers whistleblowers, people who are afraid to be honest about the powerful because they're weak, people whose ideas may be controversial but still need to be heard, etc.

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  5. False premise... by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Colleges are largely powerless to deal with the havoc Yik Yak is wreaking." This assumes that Yik Yak is wreaking havoc. So far, the article itself does not even give any real example to 'havoc' being wreaked by Yik Yak. This whole article can be summed up by "A new disruptive way of anonymous communication is catching on amongst college students. Naturally, a bunch of Orwellian-type people are worried about their lack of control over it." Further, if any actual violence happens because it was first announced on Yik Yak, it would be no different than if actual violence happened because it was announced via email, Facebook, or someone yelling and screaming it at a crowd.

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  6. Randomness by Andy+Smith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The trouble with Yik Yak is that you're hostage to other people's whims, and this app seems to attract people that prefer negativity. I tried a little experiment -- I posted one "funny" comment, one positive comment, and one negative comment. Both the funny and positive comments were quickly down-voted to -5 and removed, whereas the negative comment was up-voted and quickly became the most popular yak in my area. Most of the other top-rated yaks are people moaning about the town, the people, the night life, etc. Usually by the time you see a nice / positive yak it's already at -3 or -4 and when you refresh the list it's gone. I deleted the app.

  7. Re:Anonymous speech *is* the problem by orlanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anonymity is not the problem. And it doesn't empower assholes. For such people, it allows them to vent their issues and opinions. The alternative is to let them fester and feed on itself till either the usual destruction of the individual or the rare out lash against society through murder or bombing or joining slightly like minded individuals. Individuals who grow in strength with their numbers and common causes and lash out against [from their view point] an oppressive society.

    Anonymity actually empowers society to see the underlying issues within when they are small and addressable (Slashdot Beta anyone). The alternative is to go about our lives as if everything is perfect cause everything has conformed to be just like everyone else. Eventually the hidden issues get too large to be ignored or addressed and we end up paying for it. At the same time we learn very little cause we erased all the signs and are unable to prevent them in the future.

    We shouldn't throw away anonymity just cause the messages we see ruin our picture of a perfect society or hurt our feelings. We should address the problems rather than shoot the messenger.

  8. I love these! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They just prove that human being in general when they can hide who they are, turn into horrible monsters.

    History repeats, yet nobody learns.

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  9. Reality of YikYak by danaris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the harsh reality:

    On the campus I work for, there have been death threats posted on YikYak. Are they credible? There's no way to know. Because we don't know who's sending them. So they have to be treated as credible—and the university simply doesn't have the resources to provide even one person with 24/7 protection, let alone the half-dozen or so that the death threats were issued against.

    So the administration's response was basically, "We cannot protect you if someone is determined to get at you. If you believe the threats are credible, then our best recommendation is for you to leave the campus." And some of them did. I believe they came back after winter break, but still, they missed final exams, and I have no idea how much hassle that's going to cause them in the long run.

    Which all means that if you are a person who has a grudge against someone else on campus, and few scruples, you can get them more or less kicked off of campus by issuing an anonymous death threat against them on YikYak.

    Is that the kind of "harsh reality" you think is appropriate? Where people who are just trying to get a decent education (and paying a pretty penny for it) can be forced to make the choice between abandoning it, and risking their lives by staying on campus, just because some asshole with an anonymous YikYak account wants them to?

    I get the importance of anonymity in free speech, believe me. But free speech is a means to an end, not an end in itself. That end, broadly, is a free society. And society works because bad actors can be called to account for their bad actions. If people can do bad things without threat of consequence, the whole thing starts to fall apart.

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    1. Re:Reality of YikYak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      On the campus I work for, there have been death threats posted on YikYak. Are they credible? There's no way to know. Because we don't know who's sending them. So they have to be treated as credibleâ"and the university simply doesn't have the resources to provide even one person with 24/7 protection, let alone the half-dozen or so that the death threats were issued against.

      Dude, that is completely the wrong way to deal with this.

      In most jurisdictions, it is a crime to make death threats.

      The target of the death threat should report it to police. The police will investigate and get a court order for yikyak to produce the info they have about who made the threat (device, ip address, etc).

      Then the police track them down & slap them with handcuffs.

    2. Re:Reality of YikYak by Vokkyt · · Score: 4, Informative

      YikYak runs off phones or via Chrome if you take the time to run YikYak as a package (or whatever the term is) for Chrome. If the device is connected to the school's wifi, they ought be able to get the log-in associated with that IP address at the time of posting, which YikYak stores and readily provides in the case of police investigations.

      The campus I work for has basically taken a much more aggressive position on YikYak and we monitor it...as we remember to. YikYak itself is such a pain in the ass and most of the time it's just students bantering like students (I almost wrote idiots, but given how I was in university, I'm in no position to judge). Most of it is complaints and asking where the next party is.

      Funny enough, YikYak's moderation system actually makes it really hard to deal with the threats that do pop-up because they get removed after 5 downvotes, meaning it's hard for us to find them before the students remove the threats. We effectively cannot take action despite wanting to. I wouldn't expect the YikYak folk to spend time contacting schools where the threats are occurring, but I hope that they log it well enough to allow institutions to take action if they feel that any one student is consistently using the service to post threats.

  10. Identitarians Don't Want Police Involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the UVA Rape Hoax showed, they don't want the police to handle campus cases because that pesky "due process of law" prevents them from punishing males before they've been convicted.

    They prefer Star Chambers where the lives of men can be ruined without offering them a chance to fight back. Much better for instituting conformkity and social control to the identitarian agenda.