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Microsoft Asks US Court To Ban Kyocera's Android Phones
angry tapir writes: Microsoft has asked a court in Seattle to ban Kyocera's DuraForce, Hydro and Brigadier lines of cellular phones in the U.S., alleging that they infringed seven Microsoft patents. The software giant charged in its complaint that some Kyocera phone features that come from its use of the Android operating system infringe Microsoft's patents.
>complaint that some Kyocera phone features that come from its use of the Android operating system infringe Microsoft's patents.
Wouldn't that mean Microsoft should be going after Google, and not Kyocera? Google produces the software, after all.
It's nice to be able to collect money from others in exchange for absolutely nothing.
How can you steal someone's idea if you actually came up with it independently? That should be enough to invalidate their patents on its own. If you and I both come up with the same idea at around the same time, then that idea is "obvious".
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That's an example of moral misery. In my opinion.
For everyone who thinks that Microsoft has turned over a new leaf under Nadella, here's the proof that they are still evil at heart.
Disclaimer: IANAL. This post is, however, legal advice, and creates an attorney-client relationship.
I keep hearing about Microsoft's Android patents but I still don't know what they are?
Didn't Microsoft used to say, when it was being sued by competitors for its monopoly tendencies, that companies should compete in the marketplace, and not in the courtroom?
I really hope Kyocera doesn't back down & settle out of court. I'd love to see this go forward and see if Microsoft's patents really would hold up legally. I doubt they would, but that's all theory 'til it's tested out.
@ ZorinLynx: "Wouldn't that mean Microsoft should be going after Google, and not Kyocera? Google produces the software, after all."
:Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: Patent trolls under attack, but not dead yet.
It would except microsoft knows it doesn't have a legal leg to stand on and the smaller players are easier to extort than the behemoth of Mountain View, California.
@Sylak: "IIRC Google negeoated patent protections/licensing for certain things in android, anything beyond that is the responsibility of the phone manufacturers because it's their software changes"
No, google never negotiated patent 'protection' from Microsoft in relation to Android. Microsoft has refused to reveal what these patents are. but is quite happey to fund Patent Trolls to go after legitimate companies. See
All 7 U.S. Kyocera phone owners cried foul!
Well, it seems that despite Microsofts NDA to try to keep its patents secret, the Chinese government simply published the list of claimed infringing patents Microsoft asserts. Sadly its in Simplified Chinese, but the english in brackets tells yo what they're about (badly spaced).
It's difficult to take fluff like this seriously (Method and System for Managing Changes to a Contact Database?? Method And System For Configuring A Timer?? Garbage FFS, the patent office joking again).
Common Name Space for Long and Short Filenames
Method And System For Configuring A Timer
Loading Status in a Hypermedia Browser Having a Limited Available Display Area
RadioInterface Layer in a CellPhone witha SetofAPI's Havinga Hardware-Independent Proxy Layer and a Hardware-Specific Driver Layer
System Provided Child Window Controls
Context Sensitive Menu System/Menu Behavior
Flexible Architecturefor Notifying Applicationsof StateChanges
Handheld Computing Devicewith External Notification System
Browser Navigationfor Devices Witha Limited InputS ystem
Methodand Systemfor Managing Changes toa Contact Database
Simulating Gestures ofa Pointing Device Usinga Stylusand Providing FeedbackThereto
Highlevel Active PenMatrix
SoftInputPanel SystemandMethod
Synchronizing OveraNumberof Synchronization MechanismsUsing FlexibleRules
MonitoringEntropic Conditionsofa FlashMemory DeviceasanIndicatorfor Invoking ErasureOperations
Methodand Systemfor Creating Multi-Lingual Computer Programs by Dynamically LoadingMessages
Communicating Multi-Part Messages Between Cellular Devices Usinga StandardizedInterface
Methodand Apparatus ForCapturing And Rendering Annotations For Non-ModifiableElectronicContent
Selection Handlesin Editing ElectronicDocuments
Methodand Systemfor File SystemManagement Usinga Flash-Erasable,Programmable, Read-OnlyMemory
Remote Retrievaland Display Managementof Electronic Documentwith IncorporatedImages
Computer Systemfo rIdentifying LocalResources
Event Architecture For System Management in an OperatingSystem
Exchange ActiveSyncEAS
Extended FileAllocationTable,exFAT
Remote Desktop Protocol,RDP
ah but paying ms and then getting the money back in wp, windows etc licenses - and cross licenses - helps samsung.
it keeps the smaller players out from the market.
never noticed how the western phone market is lacking all the new manufacturers? that's not a coincidence and this is how they're keeping them out.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
It was a big deal. You probably missed the party.
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