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$7.4 Million Blurred Lines Verdict Likely To Alter Music Business

HughPickens.com writes The Washington Post reports that the $7.4 million verdict that Pharrell Williams and Robin Thicke copied Marvin Gaye's music to create their hit song "Blurred Lines" could ripple across the music industry, potentially changing how artists work and opening the door to new copyright claims. Howard King, lead attorney for Thicke and Williams, said in closing arguments that a verdict for the Gaye family would have a chilling effect on musicians trying to evoke an era or create an homage to the sound of earlier artists. Williams contended during the trial that he was only trying to mimic the "feel" of Gaye's late 1970s music but insisted he did not use elements of his idol's work. "Today's successful verdict, with the odds more than stacked against the Marvin Gaye estate, could redefine what copyright infringement means for recording artists," says Glen Rothstein, an intellectual property attorney. King says record labels are going to become more reluctant to release music that's similar to other works — an assertion disputed by Richard Busch, the lead attorney for the Gaye family. "While Mr. Williams' lawyer suggested in his closing argument that the world would come to an end, and music would cease to exist if they were found liable, I still see the sun shining," says Busch. "The music industry will go on."

Music copyright trials are rare, but allegations that a song copies another artist's work are common. Singers Sam Smith and Tom Petty recently reached an agreement that conferred songwriting credit to Petty on Smith's song, "Stay With Me," which resembled Petty's hit "I Won't Back Down." Other music copyright cases include Former Beatle George Harrison's 1970 solo song "My Sweet Lord" which had a melody heavy with echoes of "He's So Fine," the 1962 hit from The Chiffons. The copyright owner sued Harrison. A judge said that while the tunes were nearly identical, Harrison was guilty only of "subconscious plagiarism." Harrison would eventually pay out $587,000. Probably the most bizarre case of musical infringement was when John Fogerty was accused of stealing from John Fogerty. The Creedence Clearwater Revival frontman was sued for his 1985 solo song "The Old Man Down the Road" because his former label thought it sounded too much like the 1970 Fogerty-penned "Run Through the Jungle," a song it owned the rights to.

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  1. Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Neither would Blues, or pretty much any major iconic genre. Depending on how this case is construed it's basically going to kill homages and the like. FUN paying tribute to 99 luftballoons with a line in the lyrics? Better get that contractually approved.

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    1. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apply the same logic to writing and 90% of the fantasy fiction genre owes Tolkien's estate some big bucks.

    2. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by Sandman1971 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Heck, 95% of the MMORPG market, a good percentage of fantasy video games.

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    3. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And Tolkien's just the first well-known derivative work of various northern European mythologies and histories. Copyright is for dullards who add a few more man-hours to a few million man-hours of cultural development then mix in an egomaniacal sense of entitlement.

      If you don't want people building on your work, don't work - there are billions of people to take your place. Have a nice day!

    4. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The real thefts are conducted under the venerable eye of a litigious legal system gone mad for undeserved plaintiff judgements and the attorney's 30% cut.

      The right to sue to wrong a grievance or unsafe condition is a foundation of free Western society, often allowing the little guy to challenge a behemoth.

      Unfortunately, not unlike many grand and beneficial social systems, it is ripe for abuse by the unscrupulous.

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    5. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by internerdj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lawyers don't commit theft; if for no other reason than lawyers write all the laws, interpret all the laws, and for the most part hold all the highest level law executive positions.

    6. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yep. The simple, and correct solution is to put copyright terms back to where they belong and as they originally were (in both the US and Britain under the Statute of Anne). 14 year term, renewable for one additional 14 year term, if the author was alive at the end of the first time.

      That's more than sufficient "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." If the ROI of a work is based on more than 28 years of copyright revenues, it won't be created at all or is being created for reasons independent of what copyright provides.

      Disney, a constant proponent of extended copyrights, built its business by copying the works of others. Where would they be if the Brothers Grimm, Carlo Collodi (Pinocchio), Joel Chandler Harris (Uncle Remus/Song of the South), Robert Louis Stevenson (Treasure Island), etc. were still copyrighted. Extended copyright terms serve no public good, quite the opposite, they cause our culture to be stolen from us.

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    7. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not getting caught is completely different than ensuring that when the laws are written (or if you screwed that up when they are interpreted) whatever it is you do isn't illegal.

    8. Re:Rock and Roll wouldn't EXIST without "stealing" by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You missed the point.

      Culture is stolen because of extended terms on original works. Others should be free at this point to make new works featuring Mickey Mouse, which was originally created in the 1920's. Disney made use of original works with expired copyrights, but now wants to protect their own works by extending copyright forever. Relevant to the article, why shouldn't a Marvin Gaye song from 1977 be freely available for use as the basis of a new work?

      I will add that copyright terms should be even shorter for software. Copyright is offered as a trade to encourage the creation of new works. The author gets exclusivity for a limited time, after which the the public is supposed to benefit from the work. But, that doesn't work for software - why is MS-DOS, software which has very limited current value to the public, still under copyright? By the time the copyright expires (if ever), it will be essentially worthless - it almost is now. Even with the original 14/14 year term, how much software from 28 years ago (1987) still has significant value? Lotus 1-2-3? Wordstar? Aldus Pagemaker? What are you even going to run it on? In order for the bargain to be fair, a single 14 year term for software would be more reasonable. And, a requirement that source code be filed and archived before registration was allowed, so the public could actually benefit.

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  2. Where to draw the line? by hooiberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is so much music, that it is almost impossible to be truly different than everything else. And should an artist be required/expected to test new work with all other previous music ever made? That would be impossible. And where do you draw the line? Four similar bars? Two similar notes in a sequence? A same text line in a refrain? Having the same theme (as there are millions of songs about love)? Having the same combination of instruments?

  3. End copyright and all kinds of IP protection too by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They stifle innovation and hold back our society. Let inventors and creators duke it out. Whoever has the best ideas with the best implementation sells more and makes the most money.

    Music and movies are an art form, like painting or literature. All works should be free as in beer, and revenue should come from live performances and donations. Let the public decide what they want to hear and how.

    Fuck you RIAA / MPAA.

  4. This is what happens... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...when releasing cheap music. "Blurred lines" was made within a few hours. The collision with an existing older music is likely (a lot of this kind of scores are similar on many aspects - let alone techno, rap, and dance musics). Similar complains and verdicts could happen a lot more. What makes any difference here are two important conditions: 1) Marvin Gaye was a top-star and his rich family keep a close watch [they've got nothing else to do] 2) Williams and Thicke made a ton of bucks with "blurred lines".
    Besides, listened to both musics and the "collision" is much less obvious than many other two-musics I heard in the past ; the older song being probably less watched and a claim less profitable.

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  5. It's all in the cow bell - only the beats are same by Theovon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm no musicalologist, but I just don't see a massive resemblance. I carefully listened to both songs. The beats are substantially similar. For instance, the pattern of the cow bell (if that's the name of the instrument) is basically the same. However, Blurred Lines layers a bass line and melody on top of it that are completely different. There's also some similarity in the high singing voice.

    So, if stealing a percussion pattern is copyright infringement, this is going to cause all sorts of trouble, because artists rip off melodies and guitar riffs all the time.

  6. Spider Robinson warned us 30-odd years ago... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's a story that I wish had served SF's goal "not to predict the future, but to prevent it":

    Melancholy Elephants, by Spider Robinson

    ...but then again, if a significant percentage of politicians read Spider Robinson (or a significant percentage of Robinson fans went into politics), the world would be a very different place.

  7. The day the music died by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the great irony is that, although the whole purpose of IP is to give inventors and artists their due, Marvin Gaye gets no benefit whatever from this decision. Instead of living off the talents of others, his kids need to go out and get jobs.

    1. Re:The day the music died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except Thicke and Williams went and
      1) wrote new lyrics,
      2) wrote new music (only certain parts of it were deemed infringing),
      3) performed and recorded the song,
      then 4) marketed the hell out of it.

      That's 4 entirely "new" tasks that were performed in the making and distribution of their song that the Gaye-wads can't claim at all.

      It's really high time to start slut-shaming the copyright leeches. I'm calling this family the "Gaye-wads" from here on out.

  8. On Owning Ideas by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jefferson on intellectual property:

    It has been pretended by some, (and in England especially,) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions, and not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. But while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural and even an hereditary right to inventors. . .If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.

    I highly recommend reading the entire letter; if nothing else Jefferson was an excellent writer. Then if you would oblige us with a counter-argument, I am sure it would be gratifying.

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