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Mass Surveillance: Can We Blame It All On the Government?

Nicola Hahn writes Yet another news report has emerged detailing how the CIA is actively subverting low-level encryption features in mainstream hi-tech products. Responding to the story, an unnamed intelligence official essentially shrugged his shoulders and commented that "there's a whole world of devices out there, and that's what we're going to do." Perhaps this sort of cavalier dismissal isn't surprising given that leaked classified documents indicate that government intelligence officers view iPhone users as 'Zombies' who pay for their own surveillance.

The past year or so of revelations paints a pretty damning portrait of the NSA and CIA. But if you read the Intercept's coverage of the CIA's subversion projects carefully you'll notice mention of Lockheed Martin. And this raises a question that hasn't received much attention: what role does corporate America play in all of this? Are American companies simply hapless pawns of a runaway national security state? Ed Snowden has stated that mass surveillance is "about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They're about power." A sentiment which has been echoed by others. Who, then, stands to gain from mass surveillance?

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  1. We ALL win! by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Since we live in a paradise and don't want anything to change ever, universal surveillance is a great way to make sure that no bad actors mess things up. Duh. What's wrong with you? What are you, POOR?

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  2. Re:depressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Agreed it is depressing, and in answer to the question posed, the big money behind the government, the shadow government, is the winner. It's all about absolute power and wealth generation in the end. Global NSA and CIA spying - do you really think that is to save *us* from external threats? C'mon, it's all about the bottom line; period.

  3. Re:depressed by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only way to avoid technical surveillance is to keep everything sensitive away from email or phone calls or instant messages.

    I don't have any sensitive stuff I'm afraid they'll see. It just annoys me that I can't have a private conversation in the privacy of my own home. Even if I'm not a target for "tailored operations", my data is still vacuumed up through PRISM/XKEYSCORE/whatever other program. And that really sucks.

    am I really SOL?????

  4. Re:depressed by phantomfive · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I want to have some measure of privacy, but I don't want to step out of the mainstream phone ecosystem.

    Richard Stallman suggests that if you carry a cell phone, you're being tracked. And he's probably not wrong.

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  5. Re:depressed by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only way to avoid technical surveillance is to keep everything sensitive away from email or phone calls or instant messages.

    "Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink."

    It was good advice before the electronic era and remains so today. For reasons a lot more applicable to us mere mortals than NSA and CIA.

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  6. Re:depressed by kilfarsnar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...next thing they're going to get rid of cash.

    Oh, they're working on it. As with a lot of this stuff it is being sold as convenience. Most people don't appreciate the value and importance of cash and are happy to use Level Up or Apple Pay or whatever other payment method. I'm not saying those services are in league with NSA/CIA/etc. (though it wouldn't surprise me). But as the public gets more used to using cashless systems the idea or getting rid of cash will seem natural. Once that's done say goodbye to any anonymous transaction. There will be a record of every purchase we make, subject to review.

    I use cash whenever possible, even when it isn't convenient. But I think it's only a matter of time.

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