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Amazon Launches One-Hour Delivery Service In Baltimore and Miami

schwit1 writes Amazon.com announced the launch Thursday of its one-hour delivery service, Prime Now, in select zip codes in Baltimore and Miami. It initially launched in Manhattan in December. The one-hour service, available to Amazon Prime subscribers through the Prime Now mobile app, costs $7.99. Two-hour delivery is free. From the article: "Amazon Prime's success has blown away the company's projections and 'petrified' local and national retailers, said Howard Davidowitz, chairman of Davidowitz & Associates, a national retail consulting and investment banking firm headquartered in New York City. 'If you're a retailer and you're not scared of Amazon ... you should be,' he said. 'They are the change agent. They are leading the change in retail.'"

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  1. The death of delayed gratification by amalcolm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the birth of the ultimate impulse buy

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    1. Re:The death of delayed gratification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The title of The Smashing Pumpkin's abandoned 2002 concept album?

    2. Re:The death of delayed gratification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still one hour delay ;)

  2. Big difference by Roodvlees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    8 dollar to not wait one hour extra? Wow, that's a huge difference.

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    1. Re:Big difference by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It depends on the PoV. It's also $8 to cut the waiting time in half.

    2. Re: Big difference by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you but 8$ means nothing to me while having things the same day is practical so I don't have to go shopping.

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    3. Re: Big difference by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting that the free delivery in two hours will actually be the next day? Or did you not even bother to read the summary?

    4. Re:Big difference by N1AK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It can be for some items and some buyers. I don't see why people who can't immediately see a use for something are so quick to jump to the conclusion that their isn't one. One random example might be someone working at home who needs to do a disproportionate amount of printing and runs out of ink. $8 to have it solved in an hour or less might be a bargain for them. I can think of a few dozen more, although they aren't likely to be reasons why I'd pay to upgrade personally. But then, I don't know if I've ever paid for next day, and that service seems to be pretty useful and popular.

    5. Re:Big difference by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I can think of a ton. You're hosting a party and you discover you're out of something. You're a company who just had a critical item break and you lose money until you can get another. Your flight leaves soon and you discover that you forgot to pick up something. You're cooking a big dinner and discover that you don't have a key ingredient. And on and on, there's no end to the list.

      This "it's not my typical usage needs" attitude that many here are displaying is also the problem I see with many attitudes about electric cars. "Well, I drive 300 miles every day and only have enough money to buy a used jalopy and live in an urban apartment with no electricity". Fine - then don't get a freaking EV yourself.. It doesn't mean that everyone in the world's needs are the same as yours.

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    6. Re:Big difference by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      This will be a neat advertising stunt until someone gets killed by a deliveryman hurrying through traffic...

      and then, go the way of the "Domino's 30 minutes or It's Free" campaign.

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    7. Re: Big difference by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      He's saying that getting something within one or two hours makes no difference to him, it's still delivered the same day and he doesn't need to go outside.

      Me? I buy things on eBay because of the free shipping from Hong Kong. Two weeks, four weeks... who cares, it's free shipping and I've never had to pay customs or brokerage fees. It's also why I'll never order something from the USA ever again.

    8. Re: Big difference by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      I actually missed the line saying that the two hours is free.

      I live in the UK and where I live I get my packages at work because if I miss a home delivery it gets sent in a remote place which takes me some time to get to. So one hour vs. two hours could mean that I receive it today instead of tomorrow for late orders.

      I may pay for it since 1 hour can mean to wait for tomorrow, but maybe I misunderstand the way it works in the US: can you specify a 1 hour slot to receive it as well ?

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    9. Re:Big difference by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      I don't see why people who can't immediately see a use for something are so quick to jump to the conclusion that their isn't one.

      You must be new here. ;-)

    10. Re:Big difference by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      > You're a company who just had a critical item break and you lose money until you can get another.

      If it's that critical, it's not going to come from amazon. You'll have a service provider on call.

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    11. Re:Big difference by tgeller · · Score: 1

      That's only true for the largest companies -- and even they won't be able to predict what they'll run out of.

      Consider video/moviemaking. The big ones have "runners" to get what's needed. This service replaces them -- probably at a lower cost. But most production teams are too small to have a dedicated runner, so this service is a godsend.

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    12. Re: Big difference by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      The way Amazon says this works is that you get what you've ordered within two hours of placing the order without paying any additional fee or within one hour if you pay $7.99 extra.

      The person you responded to was implying that the difference between getting something within one hour rather than within two hours isn't worth the $8 that it costs to get the faster delivery.

    13. Re:Big difference by N1AK · · Score: 1

      I wish I was! Years in I know better than to hope it'll change :(

    14. Re:Big difference by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      I just paid for next day delivery last night from Amazon... for a part for my toilet tank that broke.

      It was Thursday night, about 7pm, when I noticed the toilet wasn't filling up.

      Can I run over to Home Depot? Sure, but that takes time and I had kids to get into bed and work to do.

      So Amazon charged me $5 to have it here this morning (Friday, showed up about 10am) and I have it fixed.

      $5 to have my toilet fixed in less than 24 hours and I didn't have to take 30 min to go to Home Depot?

      Bargain!

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      Note: I don't do it often, I usually take standard shipping, I'm not in a rush on most items, but when it is needed, I don't mind paying, what service! Overnight shipping for $5!

    15. Re:Big difference by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      If it's that critical, it's not going to come from amazon. You'll have a service provider on call.

      Perhaps, and a company should have spares on-site... but things happen and stuff gets missed and not every company is big enough to have it all on hand...

      This will help someone... It just might not be you...

    16. Re: Big difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised they didn't roll out in Toronto as well. Can you use it to meet cute delivery chicks like Scott Pilgrim?

  3. Does this hurt 3D printing? by Thanshin · · Score: 1

    Or will Amazon offer to print your models and put them in your hands 2h later.

    1. Re:Does this hurt 3D printing? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      The print time, and certainly the queue time for the printer head, for many things probably exceeds the delivery time.

    2. Re:Does this hurt 3D printing? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Not with systemd's integrated drivers. It'll print it before you know you want it!

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    3. Re:Does this hurt 3D printing? by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      Not with systemd's integrated drivers. It did print it before you knew you want it!

      There. Fixed that for you.

    4. Re:Does this hurt 3D printing? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Unless they use the new 3D printer that was announced three days ago.

  4. What's more interesting to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is not that Amazon are offering same-day courier delivery - that concept is centuries old - but that the high street fails to provide an in-demand version of what used to make it unique: trained staff providing demonstrations and support on custom products and services, from meat to electronics.

    I don't (didn't) go into local shops because they're cheaper, but because they are (were) better. Mind you, the local independent greengrocer - who is so resourceful with purchasing that they even pay local gardeners such as ourselves for the fruit of the dozen redcurrant bushes we have - also happens to be cheaper, as well as offering the rich flavours of fresh produce.

    There was once a local independent electronics store run by someone who could fix any TV or telephone - and a short walk beyond that, a ham radio outlet full of half a century of gadgets, and he'd understand anything about anything at HF. A local computer store used to have an engineer who would build and sell co-processor cards in the back room. Going to any of these places was an education.

    The hardware stores weren't staffed by snotty kids who just pointed at some Chinese junk on the shelf and shrugged if you asked them what was the best option, but people who were involved in building or carpentry or plumbing themselves, and who took joy in explaining how to operate some piece of kit - and, of course, if you weren't sure, you could pay them to do the work.

    A retail job at places like this was a respectable career, not something you did because you failed at education or wanted something to get you through your undergrad studies. A customer wasn't someone you tried to fleece and then he'd fuck off disappointed but out of pocket, but someone who'd come back year after year.

    So, I say it's not that Amazon has displaced the high street, but that the high street no longer delivers what it used to deliver. Is this because consumers have become lazy, compulsive and throwaway in their purchasing decisions? Probably partly. But the high street tried to chase the sell-quick-and-high starting in the '80s, and they've suffered terribly for it.

    1. Re: What's more interesting to me... by BlueTrin · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you have retail experience you will see that many people will come to the shop to try and then buy online. One counter is to sell your own products but that does not work in every sector.

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    2. Re: What's more interesting to me... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's even a word for it - showrooming.

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    3. Re: What's more interesting to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll do that for the big businesses where I just want to stare at or play with something and the salespeople are clueless anyway - sometimes because the idiots refuse to match their OWN web site offers - but for the smaller places which are owned/staffed by enthusiasts, I know that would be acting against my interests (as well as fairly dickish). I like being surrounded by local experts who are commercially sustainable.

    4. Re: What's more interesting to me... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Indeed, and this started well before online shopping. For large purchases like appliances, people would go to a reputable store and get good advise on what to buy, then make their purchase at a cut rate outlet staffed by snotty kids.

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    5. Re:What's more interesting to me... by DogDude · · Score: 2

      A front line retail job has never been a respectable career.

      Eat shit, AC.

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    6. Re: What's more interesting to me... by dj245 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you have retail experience you will see that many people will come to the shop to try and then buy online. One counter is to sell your own products but that does not work in every sector.

      Which reinforces the OP's point that shops need to offer more than aisles of product and a cash register. I went into a hobby store yesterday to look at, and possibly buy, an RC truck. I'm completely new to the hobby so I had many questions, such as "what would you use 5 channels for in an RC truck", "can the model with the brush motor be upgraded to brushless, and how much would that cost", "Can the 2WD models be upgraded to 4WD", etc etc. I needed a sales person who knew how to help me find what would be best for me. Instead, the shop was staffed by a 10 year old kid (not kidding) and a couple of older kids whose ages were a bit ambiguous but definitely under 16. I'm sure they are good kids but they don't know how to be a good salesperson.

      This is kind of an extreme case but you can't sell product if you put no effort into selling product! In this case Amazon prices are the same as hobby shop prices (probably due to strict MSRP rules) so I would have been happy buying locally. And it doesn't help that nowhere are there comparison charts between some of the different RC models. Traxxas has about 8 different versions of the 1/10 Slash truck, but no table of differences. I expected a 30 minute education and buying experience, but now I have to research all over the internet, through countless forums, to answer all my newbie questions. Give me a decent salesperson any day of the week.

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    7. Re:What's more interesting to me... by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      But it's no the high street that's responsible for the decay of the high street. Those shops that you mention don't exist any more because the manufacturing of the products they would sell has changed. Our electronics are cheaper and they are changing faster than ever (some of that is planned obsolescence, of course). It's often cheaper to buy new than to repair. Consumer electronics are now so well built and and idiot-proof that you don't need smart people to sell or explain them. Instead you need marketing and fancy adverts to persuade people to buy. The high street never stood a chance.

  5. I'd rather by rossdee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd rather live in a state where Amazon wasn't, have 2 day free shipping, and not have to pay sales tax.

    1. Re:I'd rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      internet sales tax is coming...

    2. Re:I'd rather by DogDude · · Score: 1

      I'm happy to pay taxes to support my community, my state, my country, and my fellow man.

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    3. Re:I'd rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even before Amazon started charging sales tax in California, I always paid tax on those purchases at the end of the year. California, along with many other states, has a "use tax" on goods purchased outside the state but shipped in for use inside. I don't agree with it, but it's the law. And unlike many of my fellow citizens, I'm not a tax cheat.

    4. Re:I'd rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes one of us. I'm willing to pay taxes, but once all my taxes exceed 50% of my pay, I wonder if I'm a slave to the state and whoever it deems its preferred beneficiaries are.

  6. I don't see how this delivery model can scale... by qubezz · · Score: 2

    They currently are offering this service to 25 ZIP codes - likely those directly surrounding a distribution center. However, there are several logistical factors that just seem to make this unworkable to scale:

    1. If I place seven orders a day, I alone have monopolized a driver and his vehicle for an entire work shift if the distribution center is 30 minutes away from me. That's the labor cost and vehicle cost for an entire day that my orders must pay for in "shipping".

    2. 30 minutes one way trip is optimistic, I live in the 25th largest city, and it took me 80 minutes round trip just to go to a Radio Shack that had an item I needed in stock, 1/3 of the metro area away.

    3. Even if there were distribution centers where every Walmart has a store in the US and they had a fleet the size of FedEx themselves (FedEx even just does a daily route), can they really keep the kind of items everywhere that I would order? Today, soldering iron tips, NiMH battery sub-c cells with solder tabs, replacement cherry mx keycaps, other days Loc-tite blue adhesive, 55" 4K TV, USB floppy drive, heat pump valve, that Spiderman comic from 1993...let alone that 80% of the items on Amazon are single-item-only things from marketplace sellers, very few of whom ship their entire inventory to Amazon for safe-keeping.

    The challenges here are likely why they are thinking WAY out of the box, like delivery drones.

  7. delivery in one hour??? by ks9208661 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do they sell pizza? They'd be quicker than our local Domino's!

    1. Re:delivery in one hour??? by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Not even if you forget the time to make the pizza. My local Domino's gets the pizza to my place in half an hour and that is including making it.

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    2. Re:delivery in one hour??? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      It's not magic. They simply installed ovens in their delivery cars.

    3. Re:delivery in one hour??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, but does make me think of an interesting problem; traffic! My local Dominos is a mere 1.5-2 miles away. I live in a reasonably dense area, and if I drive to that shopping center the Dominos is located in during rush hour it can take 30 minutes easily! Nothing is far from where I live, but whether you drive, take the bus, or take the train timing is everything! A 5 minute trip can easily turn into a 45 minute venture with some bad luck...

    4. Re:delivery in one hour??? by worf_mo · · Score: 1
    5. Re:delivery in one hour??? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      FYI, I live 10 minutes out of the center of Baltimore, and this doesn't cover my zip code. I think the zip codes are a very small area.

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  8. Amazon Launches One-Year Delivery Service To Aus by warewolfsmith · · Score: 1

    Amazon Launches One-Year Delivery Service To Australia Wow, now thats an improvement..

  9. Yes, I'd be afraid of Amazon by hughbar · · Score: 3, Informative

    I live in the UK and have cut down on Amazon for nearly 'everything'. I appreciate their efficiency, their systems and their prices but I don't want to live in a world where there's just one shop. That's the thing for everybody to be afraid of. They treat their staff pretty badly too.

    With great power comes great responsibility, with late-stage capitalism comes winner takes all. I'm prepared to give up optimal pricing and some of the the rational economic man stuff for 'choice' and 'quality of life'.

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    1. Re:Yes, I'd be afraid of Amazon by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I find it pretty easy to avoid Amazon for everything, including (e-)books. Perhaps it's an advantage of living in a small country, but many online shops, including very small ones, offer next-day delivery: order before 21:00 and your package will most likely (not guaranteed) arrive the next day by regular mail. In contrast, Amazon still ships to NL from the UK or DE I think, so it is not as fast. For fast delivery, I order from a local shop. For obscure stuff I can't get here or for great deals I order direct from the far east (China, HK, or preferably Japan as their mail service is unbelievably fast). I've ordered from Amazon perhaps twice in the last 3 years.

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    2. Re:Yes, I'd be afraid of Amazon by hughbar · · Score: 1

      Yes, agree, I use hive.co.uk here, they try and support local bookshops to some extent too. I don't hate Amazon and have programmed for one of their subsidiaries for a while, but I feel there are dangers that I expressed. Same kind of thing we had with IBM [in the old days], Microsoft [more recently] and Amazon, Google, eBay etc. now.

      However that was nearly always one class of products, this is a lot more 'horizontal', everything needs to pass through the Amazon door, if it comes to that.

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    3. Re:Yes, I'd be afraid of Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've similarly cut down on Amazon. I don't like to give my custom purely out of habit, and that's how it had become. It turns out, in my experience of avoiding Amazon, that Amazon frequently does not have the cheapest price anyway. I'm quite happy to pay lower or otherwise very similar prices elsewhere, while simultaneously failing to support Amazon's questionable employment practices or its history of killing off interesting local bookshops.

      Rather like some people have been known to view products in physical stores before buying online, I quite enjoy using Amazon to look up reviews and information about products, before buying them in other stores (online or otherwise). It seems fair for me to do that.

    4. Re:Yes, I'd be afraid of Amazon by eionmac · · Score: 1

      I use local shops now (in a small village of about 8 to 10 thousand folk) to keep small businesses (and big UK) who are UK tax paying businesses in being. I now buy signifficantly less from Amazon (zero so far this tear of 2015). The are killing local businesses and avoiding paying their fare share of local taxes. Their mama management /remward is not so good, but 'just legal' to avoid prosecution. Also I do not have delivery slot problems, where I or wife had to wait in to receive parcel. (A major point!)

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  10. Opportunity cost by sjbe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    8 dollar to not wait one hour extra? Wow, that's a huge difference.

    Might be but I can see cases where it might be worth it to some folks. Honestly pretty much anything I would get in my car to go get would take at least 30-60 minutes of my time + gasoline. In a place like Manhattan I could easily see it taking much longer than in the midwest suburbs where I live. My hourly wages are significantly higher than $8 and the opportunity cost to me and my company if I have to leave for an hour to go buy something could easily justify an $8 delivery charge if we needed it right away.

    I buy a lot of stuff through Amazon (and other online vendors) precisely because of the opportunity cost to shop in person. Sometimes shopping is fun but most of the time it's just a chore plus it puts wear and tear on my car and takes up time I could put to better use.

  11. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by jpapon · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. If I place seven orders a day, I alone have monopolized a driver and his vehicle for an entire work shift if the distribution center is 30 minutes away from me. That's the labor cost and vehicle cost for an entire day that my orders must pay for in "shipping".

    Only if there are no other deliveries to be made anywhere near you.

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  12. Still a question of profit for Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even though I do think brick and mortar stores should at least be aware of what Amazon is doing. The question still remains if Amazon can actually stop bleeding red and profit. Obviously Amazon is better on consumers and their obsessive need for instant gratification. Hoping to not only gain more buyers but also offer ways to circumvent delivery services like UPS and Fedex with their own in house means of delivery. If you look practically at Amazon's business model, they have some real issues in how they expect to make a profit. The advantage for Amazon of course if they can manage to streamline delivery and offer good prices is that they have less physical over head over a Walmart. The problem is, that State's are now implementing sales tax requirements and the online merchants may not be able to convince as easily consumers to buy merchandise online vs going to a store. WalMart offers, online sales, free shipping, pick up in stores, so Amazon has it work cut out trying to be a profitable retailer and also find ways to keep customers.

  13. Batching and operations research by sjbe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I place seven orders a day, I alone have monopolized a driver and his vehicle for an entire work shift if the distribution center is 30 minutes away from me.

    Probably not true because the delivery person would probably batch several deliveries into a single run. In fact it would be seem to be economically insane to do otherwise. This only works in high population density locations (presumably) so you aren't likely to be the only person ordering stuff at a given time near your location. It would take some clever software and planning but it's doable. My undergrad degree is in industrial engineering and this is a pretty nifty operations research problem.

    Even if there were distribution centers where every Walmart has a store in the US and they had a fleet the size of FedEx themselves (FedEx even just does a daily route), can they really keep the kind of items everywhere that I would order?

    Of course not. It will necessarily be a limited menu so to speak. Same reason Walmart doesn't stock everything in their stores that you can buy through their website.

    Amazon are single-item-only things from marketplace sellers, very few of whom ship their entire inventory to Amazon for safe-keeping.

    I shop a lot through Amazon and only about 20% of what I buy comes from marketplace sellers and maybe 5-10% is stuff Amazon doesn't stock themselves. 90% of the time Prime delivery is an option. In any case this rapid delivery service will almost certainly be for stuff you buy from Amazon themselves only.

    It's actually kind of a brilliant idea for the same reason that Walmart opening big stores in small towns is a great idea. If they can get there first and be the first to make it work at scale, it (potentially) takes a lot of the oxygen out of the room for competitors. The biggest threat to Amazon right now is companies like Walmart realizing that their stores can also serve as warehouses and getting their IT up to snuff. Amazon has been building warehouses all over the place to get ahead of this competitive threat. Amazon will have a hard time matching Walmart in small towns but with this Walmart might have a hard time matching Amazon in big cities.

    1. Re:Batching and operations research by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      The biggest threat to Amazon right now is companies like Walmart realizing that their stores can also serve as warehouses and getting their IT up to snuff.

      There's a lot of retailers who have realized it - and who have gotten their IT up to snuff and offer "order online, pickup in store in an hour" services. (Concentrating on getting the customer in the store isn't a mistake.)
       
      The problem for these retailers isn't IT (as it so often isn't), it's the infrastructure and overhead involved in setting up an Amazon delivery type of operation. Amazon already has the back-end, a very efficient warehousing, picking, and packing operation - all they had to do was add to front end (dispatch, vehicles, and drivers). Not only does Walmart not have the back or front ends... a retail store isn't a warehouse, and the picking and packing will be much more difficult (and labor intensive, since they can't use the robots and conveyor systems that Amazon does). Amazon could simply build on their existing operations, Wal-Mart would have to start from scratch and be fighting with one foot in a bucket of cement.

  14. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    1. If I place seven orders a day, I alone have monopolized a driver and his vehicle for an entire work shift

    A solution to this problem is to put more than one package on each truck, rather than sending out a separate truck and driver for each package. I am not sure if they thought of that, since it is a pretty deep concept.

    can they really keep the kind of items everywhere that I would order? Today, soldering iron tips, NiMH battery sub-c cells ...

    No. Amazon sells over 20 million items, but only about 10,000 are eligible for Prime-Now.

  15. WebVan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always stay fresh. Make lots of money. Stop snitching.

  16. Add value or lower your prices by sjbe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you have retail experience you will see that many people will come to the shop to try and then buy online.

    People do this when your prices are higher than online or when they get no extra value from your "retail experience". People engage in showrooming at Best Buy precisely because their prices have historically sucked compared with online and the retail experience is nothing special. People shop at places like Bass Pro Shops because the retail experience is outstanding for their target audience. It adds value to the trip so people are willing to go out of their way to go there. People shop at Walmart almost entirely because the prices are low despite the fact that the shopping experience is widely acknowledged to suck. People shop at Nordstroms for exactly the opposite reasons - they know the prices are high but the service is generally excellent and that has a value to many people.

    You can compete on price or you can differentiate yourself with added value in some way.

    One counter is to sell your own products but that does not work in every sector.

    Name one please. I can't think of one offhand where it couldn't work.

    1. Re: Add value or lower your prices by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      Could you manage to sell locally video games, DVDs/BlueRays ? Books you could manage but it would probably depend of the town and demographics. You have a bit of a bias, younger audience will go a long way to save a few pounds and are not as appreciative of the staff skills as you are. I know I would have done anything to save a few pounds when I was 18. Also it is true that in the sectors I gave you had the influence of online medias such as Steam or iTunes but my point is that while some shops can survive if they have good staff and sell specialised products, you can't deny that online competition is a strain on their finances.

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    2. Re:Add value or lower your prices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People shop at Bass Pro because it's one of only a few large fishing/hunting/outdoor stores with a large inventory and they can mess with the products. 9 out of 10 people would rather not have to talk anyone to buy anything. That's why self-service checkout lanes are so popular with people. I can see you really love retail sales folks, but you are in the minority. Most people under 50 just want to shop and buy in peace. There is nothing anyone in that store can tell me that 30 seconds with Google on my phone can't.

    3. Re: Add value or lower your prices by sjbe · · Score: 1

      Could you manage to sell locally video games, DVDs/BlueRays ?

      Sony did sell Sony branded video games and DVDs in their own stores. Microsoft too at least for the video games. You definitely can sell your own brand of stuff. I'll say again that there is no fundamental obstacle to a company selling their own branded merchandise in any sector I can think of.

      You have a bit of a bias, younger audience will go a long way to save a few pounds and are not as appreciative of the staff skills as you are.

      It's not a question of personal bias (which BTW you misunderstand mine badly). Some stores are popular because of the customer experience - they provide extra value and charge for it. People don't shop at the Apple store because they want to be left alone - they go online if they want that. People don't shop at Nordstroms because they want to be left alone. People DO shop at Walmart or Home Depot or Target because they want cheap and don't need/want to interact with someone. And both are fine. But if a company wants to compete on price there really can only be one company with the lowest price whereas companies that compete on differentiation compete (mostly) on factors other than price.

      For the record I rarely want to talk to someone in a store - I'm usually looking for a good deal and prefer to do my own research. That's why I do most shopping online - but when I do talk to a sales person I expect them to know their stuff.

      my point is that while some shops can survive if they have good staff and sell specialised products, you can't deny that online competition is a strain on their finances.

      You could say the same about any competition - online or offline.

  17. Radio Shack by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    I'm kind of surprised they didn't buy into the radio shack storefronts to get every-town distribution locations - even if it's just a "pick up" site.

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    1. Re:Radio Shack by sjbe · · Score: 1

      I'm kind of surprised they didn't buy into the radio shack storefronts to get every-town distribution locations - even if it's just a "pick up" site.

      I'm sure they thought about it but that's a VERY speculative bet, even for Amazon. Radio Shacks are not exactly prime retail space and it's not clear if it makes sense to use it as a sort of post office box. The entire value proposition of Amazon to most of us is that we don't have to go anywhere to get what we buy. Once we have to go somewhere to pick it up there is no longer any advantage in choosing Amazon over say Walmart or Target. Remember that Amazon is a low margin business at least on the physical goods side of things so shipping low margin goods to a tiny retail shop in a non-prime location while destroying the key advantage of your brand doesn't seem like a great plan.

  18. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They are getting closer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA_gwzx39LQ

  19. It's how things used to be! by Oflife · · Score: 1

    Back when I was a caveman, (Ogg the Massive), if I felt peckish, whilst the missus scrubbed the cave and Ogg the Minor made hand prints on the walls upsetting said missus, I popped out to the plains and grabbed a few oranges from the bush. This took approximately 3 of what you modern humans call minutes. If I wanted a spear, I popped out again, grabbed a branch from the tree, broke the twigs off and sharpened the end using a nearby piece of flint. Ogg's your Uncle, instant satisfaction, and if a gazelle was passing by, the ability to enjoy the odd steak - all within about an hour of initial pangs! As I was saying, nothing changes. Amazon have just returned things to normal, cutting out the annoying environmental disaster that is to have to get in a car and pollute the environment all for a USB cable. One truck, many customers is better than many customers in lots of cars! And drones will make the process even more efficient. #ScTcObRbK #tt_ScTcObRbK

  20. Drive to Baltimore by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    I don't live far from Baltimore. I guess if I need a rush package, I could order something, ship it to a known address, and drive there to pick it up. Only problem is they might beat me there.

    1. Re:Drive to Baltimore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should be more worried about being shot in Baltimore, rather than just being beaten.

    2. Re:Drive to Baltimore by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I checked where I live (Glen Burnie) which is about 10 minutes outside of the center of Baltimore, and they didn't deliver there. I am unsure where in Balt they do deliver to.

      If I could find a Starbucks in their delivery area, just have it delivered there and pick up a coffee while I am out. :)

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  21. finally by johnsnails · · Score: 1

    A good way to order pizza!

  22. Retail is dead anyway by TigerPlish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Retail is dead anyway, but the brainless corpse hasn't quite gotten the message yet.

    I miss the day of the independent hardware store, grocer, pharmacy, camera shop,hi-fi store, etc. The first wave of crushing those small businesses came in the 70's - 80's in the form of malls. Many independents went to the malls and survived. Those who refused, well -- I've seen entire city blocks of shops and cinemas close due to the malls. (Santurce, Puerto Rico, for example, lost I'd say over 90% of its cinemas and retail stores, all due to one mall.)

    During the 90's big-box retailers such as Target, Walmart, etc. came and shredded what was left. Now malls are populated by franchise chains, not independents - and the malls themselves are a dying breed in the US.

    So what do I think of Amazon and other e-tailers? I love it. Shopping for some things such as shoes and clothing can be a bit difficult, but for other goods such as music, blurays, books, parts, etc -- I don't even bother going to a mall, what with the crowds and stupid, ignorant sales staff. With Prime and a few dollars i have to wait only a day. Surely I can do that! Maybe not 20 years ago, but now I have the patience.

      For some of my fringe hobbies I go out of my way to support the small businesses. Like Marshall Street for disc golf, for example - they're a little store in Massachusetts. Or Airline Museum for aircraft die-casts. Or RightStuf for anime. It's not all about Amazon, one can (and should!) give business to small online shops who deserve it!

    Amazon is revenge on the big-box stores for wiping out small-time merchants. I don't think it set out to be that, but every time I see a walmart close I grin a little. I resented it when they popped up, and now I don't mind seeing them go.

    I've even bought a few appliances from Amazon, without showrooming. Careful reading of descriptions and in-depth studying of reviews help to offset losing the ability to hold the object in your hand prior to purchase. So far I'm happy with my online appliance purchases.

    It would be deliciously ironic if there's a renaissance of the small independent shop away from a mall. I'd love to see that. But then I'd love to see things made in the country of purchase again (USA for me) but that's, for now, just a dream.

    Retail is dead, it shot itself in the head years ago. Good riddance.

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    1. Re:Retail is dead anyway by Bonzoli · · Score: 1

      Until you have to return or repair that appliance, you'll be happy enough. I'm batting about 50% on appliances having issues in the first year. But I've only been buying them for 20 years, could be wrong.
      Of course you could have gone to Lowe's and talked to the sales guy and probably got it cheaper with a little haggling and a picture on your smart phone. Free pickup and with delivery install, go figure. If you time your purchase with sales you can get say all the blinds in the house installed for free during a sale.

    2. Re:Retail is dead anyway by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Retail isn't dead. Big Box retail is hurting, but independent retailers can and do still compete easily with both Big Box and ecommerce.

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    3. Re: Retail is dead anyway by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      Amazon has one of the best return policy I have had the chance to use, the only problems were when I bought with a third party on the marketplace.

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    4. Re:Retail is dead anyway by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      I did go to Lowes, and Target, and even the hated Walmart - none of them had what I was looking for, so yeah, Amazon had it.

      For truly big-ticket items such as washers, dryers, etc - that I would buy at a local store. But vacuums, wine fridges, etc? Amazon. The local selection of those two items, for example, is thin to none. Each store carries the same crap bottom-end vaccums and dyson hi-end, nothing in between. Amazon had the in-between. Wine fridge? None locally. I called. I perused web pages. "Online only." So I did! Just not at that particular store's site.

      The last two appliances I bought at local stores were a coffemaker and a toaster. Oh and some power tools from home depot.

      It's telling that selection is narrower and inventory much lower than it was 10 years ago. The big-boxes are feeling pain.

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    5. Re:Retail is dead anyway by pz · · Score: 1

      With Prime and a few dollars i have to wait only a day.

      It's actually far better than that. With Prime and a few dollars, I can avoid going to the mall entirely and wasting the two hours that horrendous experience entails. All-in-all, it's a profitable proposal for me, as time is precious.

      When the need for having something immediately rises above my personal cost threshold for a trip to the mall, well, that's still an option. But in the name of all that is holy, why would you ever step foot in one of those things otherwise?

      When malls first opened (yes, I'm that old), they tried to attract customers by making the experience a rich, enticing, special one. You had good restaurants. Calm, quiet environments. High-end department stores as well as fashion boutiques. Sales staff that dressed well and spoke proper English. Now it's noise, bling, distraction, horrid food, snotty sales staff with slacker attitudes that match their poor verbal skills, and self-checkout tellers. Thank you, I'll stick with an on-line retailer for commodity items. And when the malls die, it will not be a great loss as the positive shopping experience of yesteryear is gone already. To paraphrase the parent poster, good riddance to the modern malls.

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    6. Re: Retail is dead anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those other retailer options that Amazon offers are your local shops leveraging amazons storefront.

  23. Nothing to fear by sjbe · · Score: 1

    I live in the UK and have cut down on Amazon for nearly 'everything'. I appreciate their efficiency, their systems and their prices but I don't want to live in a world where there's just one shop.

    That's highly unlikely. Furthermore you might have that backwards. Think of it like this. Amazon is forcing lots of other companies, big and small, to step their game up with regards to online shopping which is almost entirely to your benefit. I assure you that Walmart and Target and other retailers have no interest in going out of business so shop where it makes sense for you and if the others eventually catch up then switch to them. Think of it like tough love for companies that haven't thought hard enough about how to deliver value to you.

    That's the thing for everybody to be afraid of.

    Doesn't worry me a bit. The odds of Amazon becoming a monopoly are vanishingly small. See below.

    With great power comes great responsibility, with late-stage capitalism comes winner takes all.

    That's demonstrably not true in lots of industries, particularly in retail. The retail sector in the US is about $4.5 Trillion. Walmart is the largest and most dominant of these had US sales of $337 Billion last year which is about 7.5% of the market. Amazon had revenue of about $89 Billion over the same period. There is nobody that is even close to becoming a monopoly and none likely to do so any time soon. Plenty of competition out there.

    1. Re:Nothing to fear by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Wait, what? Did you really just claim that unless Amazon has a monopoly on the entire retail sector it isn't developing a monopoly on certain aspects. Retail is further divided by both,at least, a perceived quality of good and type of good

      Walmart is the largest and most dominant of these had US sales of $337 Billion last year which is about 7.5% of the market.

      This is really misleading. Retail is not fungible. There are tons of places in America where there is literally one shop (either a dollar store or a Walmart) within a reasonable driving distance.

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    2. Re:Nothing to fear by sjbe · · Score: 1

      Wait, what? Did you really just claim that unless Amazon has a monopoly on the entire retail sector it isn't developing a monopoly on certain aspects

      I'm claiming that Amazon getting a monopoly is highly unlikely. Name one area where Amazon has a monopoly. Go ahead, I'll wait. Having a big impact != having a monopoly. Amazon has a big impact but no part of their business could reasonably be described as a monopoly at this time.

      This is really misleading. Retail is not fungible.

      It's not misleading at all. Walmart has a huge impact but it's still not a monopoly. It has some very local areas where it might be considered one (one store towns) but across the retail marketplace it's merely first among many. Amazon can compete with Walmart in many of these one store towns because they don't need a store there. Amazon is highly unlikely to drive Walmart out of any of these and vice-versa.

      There are tons of places in America where there is literally one shop (either a dollar store or a Walmart) within a reasonable driving distance.

      Which Amazon neatly circumvents by not needing a shop. What's your point?

  24. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by Bonzoli · · Score: 1

    I do not understand how paying someone to drive something in 30 minutes to your location makes them any money on the sale. Unless your paying 30 for the drivers time and the vehicle/fuel/insurance in your purchase somehow. Its not magic they still have to make money or they too will go out of business in this race to the bottom.
    UPS does it by bundling a whole days worth of stuff in a truck and creating an optimized route via server software for that purpose then giving it to the driver. How is Amazon going to do this 30 minutes at a pop in say SF or Boston traffic down town. Drones do not do it, and they wont do it in the rain/wind/snow. Even if Drones somehow become cost effective and not a hype for stock purchasers.

  25. Amazon isn't what many people assume by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Even though I do think brick and mortar stores should at least be aware of what Amazon is doing.

    I assure you that they are acutely aware of what Amazon is doing.

    The question still remains if Amazon can actually stop bleeding red and profit.

    Amazon could be profitable tomorrow if they chose to be. You only have to look through their financial statements to show that. They reinvest heavily in growing the company and in some pretty speculative projects (Fire Phone) and as long as Bezos is CEO I don't see that changing. And honestly I think that is a good plan at least in principle - and so far the execution has been good. The biggest danger to Amazon is if a company like Walmart figures out a way to use their thousands of existing stores as warehouses in addition to being stores AND get people to think of them for online purchases.

    Obviously Amazon is better on consumers and their obsessive need for instant gratification.

    Umm, not so much. For most of Amazon's customer base there is at minimum a 24 hour delay before receiving any purchases. I can wander down to my local Walmart in about 15 minutes if I want "instant" gratification.

    The advantage for Amazon of course if they can manage to streamline delivery and offer good prices is that they have less physical over head over a Walmart.

    That's not really as true as you might think. That's something of a myth left over from the early days of Amazon. Amazon has been busy building warehouses all over the place to facilitate efficient and fast delivery and these incur substantially the same costs as brick and mortar stores. They are doing this so that Walmart and the rest don't steal a march on them and use their stores as warehouses. Remember that your local Walmart is almost certainly closer to you than your nearest Amazon warehouse so this means that Walmart could in theory be able to deliver products quite rapidly if they work out the system for doing so and they are among the best at logistics in the world.

    The problem is, that State's are now implementing sales tax requirements and the online merchants may not be able to convince as easily consumers to buy merchandise online vs going to a store.

    Again Amazon is actually supporting collection of sales tax now. They believe it actually works in their favor and they are probably right. The sales tax on internet sales was all but inevitable so Amazon is getting ahead of the problem early.

  26. "We also walk dogs" (Robert A. Heinlein) by sampson7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only wondering if Jeff Bezos was a science fiction fan? Robert Heinlein basically predicted an Amazon-like behemoth that did everything for everyone, called General Services. Granted, the book portrays them as less "product" and more "service," but the idea is very similar!

    General Services got its start as a dog walking company, and grew from there. (Books anyone?) As a result of its humble beginnings, General Service's 's tag line is "We Also Walk Dogs." Really awesome read. I came across it in a compilation called "The Green Hills of Earth," which is chock full of other really nice little stories. And for those of you who have only read Heinlein's novels, I found the short stories a really refreshing read.

    1. Re:"We also walk dogs" (Robert A. Heinlein) by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

      Edward Bellamy, cousin of Francis Bellamy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance along with prescribing its Nazi-like flag salute, wrote Looking Backward in 1888 which included a prediction of "almost instantaneous, Internet-like delivery of goods". Well, that quote was from Wikipedia. Because the book predates Mickey Mouse, the full text is available on gutenberg.org:

      But, Mr. West, you must not fail to ask father to take you to the central warehouse some day, where they receive the orders from the different sample houses all over the city and parcel out and send the goods to their destinations. He took me there not long ago, and it was a wonderful sight. The system is certainly perfect; for example, over yonder in that sort of cage is the dispatching clerk. The orders, as they are taken by the different departments in the store, are sent by transmitters to him. His assistants sort them and enclose each class in a carrier-box by itself. The dispatching clerk has a dozen pneumatic transmitters before him answering to the general classes of goods, each communicating with the corresponding department at the warehouse. He drops the box of orders into the tube it calls for, and in a few moments later it drops on the proper desk in the warehouse, together with all the orders of the same sort from the other sample stores. The orders are read off, recorded, and sent to be filled, like lightning. The filling I thought the most interesting part. Bales of cloth are placed on spindles and turned by machinery, and the cutter, who also has a machine, works right through one bale after another till exhausted, when another man takes his place; and it is the same with those who fill the orders in any other staple. The packages are then delivered by larger tubes to the city districts, and thence distributed to the houses. You may understand how quickly it is all done when I tell you that my order will probably be at home sooner than I could have carried it from here.

    2. Re:"We also walk dogs" (Robert A. Heinlein) by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      "The Green Hills of Earth" sends me to the Way-back Machine(tm). Great stories. Lot's of optimism, despite whatever problems were in the stories. He wrote a lot about dystopian societies, generally communistic or religious totalitarianisms. The plucky protagonists always found a way out. It always helped that they were independently wealthy or off the grid.

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  27. Success? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can Amazon do this? Prime shipping alone, has got to be costing them a fortune in profits. Now "free" two hour delivery?

    1. Re:Success? by DogDude · · Score: 0

      They're losing money hand over fist, but the dumb investors love it!

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  28. Not scared... by DogDude · · Score: 1

    This retailer isn't scared. Just waiting for the bubble to burst. Amazon can't bleed money forever. Eventually, the chickens will come home to roost.

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    1. Re:Not scared... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't lose money. They deliberately break even (give or take a little) to avoid taxes, spending what would have been the profits on growth.

      Their profit/loss for any given quarter is so small relative to turnover that nobody gives a shit.

      If they wanted to make enormous profits right now, they could. They choose not to. I bet you wish that you had that choice as a retailer.

  29. Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    Technology changes are making the mega-city areas more desirable. Is rural America going to be slowly boarded up?

    Given the wholesale changes since 2000, it is easy to see that the mega-suppliers/dealers, Amazon, Walmart, drug dealers, etc, are only efficiently available in the denser areas, but now the (Un)Affordable Care Act is decimating smaller town hospitals along with the increasing difficulty of making small retail businesses profitable given everything from increasing regulations, taxes and lack of (easily) repairable products. UPS & Fedex for small towns are the only saving grace.

    The only given is change, and cities have been abandoned before the time of Christ.

    Today, technology is the mover and shaker, but will it reinvigorate the small town?

    1. Re:Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by DogDude · · Score: 1

      the increasing difficulty of making small retail businesses profitable given everything from increasing regulations

      As somebody who works for a small retail business, I'm wondering, what are these "increased regulations" that you speak of? We haven't seen any and we've been in businesses for more than ten years.

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    2. Re:Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

      The most obvious are those associated with medical insurance, automobile & fuel requirements, electricity costs and added costs to electronics & devices for Energy Star & trace & potentially hazardous metals, like lead.

      The increases are insidious in that most are built into requirements that the retailer, distributor and user never see as an individual cost. Some are indeed needed, like eliminating lead paint and asbestos. Others like using coal in power plants are questionable, but dozens of coal plants are due to be forced to close prior to the summer heat wave period of this year. That is punitive on the population for questionable benefit.

      When you look at the decrease in dollar income over the last six years, coupled with now about 90 million adults not in the labor force (highest since early 70s), the effect is understood more, since it is factually true that % of population working and average income is down.

    3. Re:Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 1

      The (Un)Affordable Care Act is a trainwreck, but can you please explain to me what it has to do with "decimating smaller town hospitals"?

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    4. Re:Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Small town hospitals that display cowardice in battle are required to draw lots and 9/10 beat the losing 1/10 to death?

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    5. Re:Evolution-De-Population of Rural America by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      Technology changes are making the mega-city areas more desirable. Is rural America going to be slowly boarded up?

      Hu? I could live in Nowhere, Wyoming and, via Amazon Prime, get the exact same products at the same price and delivery speed as a guy in New York City.

      I can, living at my semi-rural home, buy anything I need - and have it hand delivered to me. Why would I want to go to a city? What shopping is there that I can't get now?

      A few years ago, for my wife's birthday, I had 50 gerber daisies shipped from central america, direct from the grower. (Surprisingly cheap, for the impact) I don't think a shop in my entire state could sell me those on short notice.

      The Internet, and Amazon, has made living in rural settings more convenient and practical than ever.

  30. Get a Pilot's License! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These drones are going to have to be manually piloted for a long time before they get approval for automated drones. The logistical problems with a machine that has to place a package on your front porch are pretty significant - Amazon would have to map all the porches of all its customers. So until then if you want a great, albiet boring job, get your pilot's license now before the rush.

    1. Re:Get a Pilot's License! by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      They'll be like autonomous trucks might be: 95% of the journey is GPS controlled, but the final approach and dropoff would be piloted by remote link. Making hundreds of landings a day will be mind-numbing and it will make the packing jobs at the warehouses seem like a day at the beach.

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    2. Re:Get a Pilot's License! by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 1

      I attended a demo of the Microsoft Kinect 2 at the Denver Visual Studio Users Group. It was pretty awesome, and the presenter said that he expects that this technology will one day allow people to make 3D models of their living spaces. For example, you could make a 3D model of your closet and then get a preview of what a new shelf system might look like. It sounds like this "porch mapping" problem is not unsurmountable. Plus, if they are going to do your package from a drone, how about placing it in the back yard or other designated place so that it isn't visible from the road?

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  31. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by umafuckit · · Score: 1

    They currently are offering this service to 25 ZIP codes - likely those directly surrounding a distribution center. However, there are several logistical factors that just seem to make this unworkable to scale

    It's always been Amazon's stratergy to take a loss when entering a new market. They'll do that here too.

  32. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by greg1104 · · Score: 1

    I live very close to the Baltimore distribution center. What they've done there is position it right in the middle of where all the major highways here intersect. You really can get to any other part of Baltimore in 25 minutes from there. I suspect they're going to limit this service to popular items in cities where the layout makes things feasible.

  33. Re:Wall E takes another step closer by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    You're a business and a part breaks. That's why you have maintenance contracts.

    Think of Amazon 1-hour as your maintenance contract, except not one one that leeches operating funds off of you every fucking month while the maintenance guy does nothing. Why hire a person to keep track of your supplies, when Amazon 1-hour can be your supply cabinet and you can stop tying up operating revenue with a stock room? Why spend all your time as a party coordinator when you can press a button on your phone and go enjoy your own party?

    If you're a maintenance guy, or a paid planner, or a stockroom attendant then Amazon is going to make you go get another job. Maybe it's time to go figure out how to make a nice espresso and become a barista somewhere. Better yet, learn to fix plumbing and make a real living. You can even use Amazon to deliver a replacement part so you can install it.

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  34. Goodbye Retailers. Goodbye couriers. by dimmthewitted · · Score: 1

    Once Amazon Fresh moves their delivery model to Prime Now and this goes main stream at those delivery prices, I will never need to leave the house. How are they doing this without drones or autonomous delivery minions?

  35. Re:Goodbye Retailers. Goodbye couriers. by argee · · Score: 1

    My Robot Avatar will then go to work instead of me; I can sit at home and watch TV,
    eat potato chips (delivered by courier), and get Fat. I die at age 30 of obesity and
    diabetes. This is good because a growing, young population is good for business.

    I haven't figured out, though, if my Avatar will do the sex thing for me.

  36. Re:Amazon are scum. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Beast starving patriots. Shop there more.

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  37. Dade County gridlock by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    One-hour delivery in Miami will be a good trick, considering that it can take an hour -- at 2pm or 9pm, let alone 6pm -- just to get from one side of 836 or the Palmetto Expressway to the other.

    Miami doesn't have a road network... it has a random collection of point-to-point access routes that fan out like binary trees for the final half-mile beyond some hopeless traffic chokepoint at both ends. Other cities have gridlock in old urban neighborhoods. Miami has hopeless gridlock in brand new neighborhoods whose concrete has barely finished curing.

    A few years ago, Miami's Metrorail had record-setting ridership. Miami-Dade Transit Authority responded by cutting back service. Meanwhile, the half-cent sales tax that was sold to voters with promises of building hundreds of miles of new Metrorail track gets pissed away on lighted street signs and... well, nobody knows what else.

    And it's totally fair to blame Dade County's incompetent government for it. Broward County to the north is far from perfect, but in most places, the gridlock basically evaporates the moment you cross the county line (and conversely, backs up southbound into Broward as if the county line were a long traffic light.

  38. Re:I don't see how this delivery model can scale.. by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    In Miami, that would be somewhere near State Road 836 and the Palmetto Expressway... both of which are surrounded by some of the most dysfunctional arterial roads in the world (even if the new 826-836 interchange itself is pretty sweet).

    Golden Glades? (ROTFLMAO, pounding the floor and gasping for breath).

    Turnpike @ 836? Maybe if they bought the FHP office & got their private on/off ramps in the deal. Via 107th Avenue? HAHAHHAHA. That's a good one.

    Dadeland? Anywhere near I-95? You can't be serious. Every square inch of this miserable county -- beach to everglades, Homestead to Aventura -- is gridlocked for most of the day.