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German Vice Chancellor: the US Threatened Us Over Snowden
siddesu sends this report from The Intercept:
German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel said this week in Homburg that the U.S. government threatened to cease sharing intelligence with Germany if Berlin offered asylum to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden or otherwise arranged for him to travel to that country. 'They told us they would stop notifying us of plots and other intelligence matters,' Gabriel said.
Said no one ever. I wish the U.S. would stop acting like such a thug all the time. Noam Chomsky is right.
Defense from who, exactly?
Russia still occupies (formerly?) German territory that it annexed and stationed military units in (including nuclear weapons). Maybe you've heard that they are invading neighboring countrries again, taking their territory, and annexing it? There are many European countries threatened by Russian aggression in this regard.
Russia had made repeated threats involving use of nuclear weapons. Maybe you missed that Puting just stated his willingness to brandish nuclear weapons in order to annex Crimea?
From imaginary retro-communist threat, or some "terrorists" that US themselves funded and created?
I'm pretty sure that the Russians aren't either imaginary or "retro-communists." And the "terrorists" of concern aren't "terrorists," they are terrorists. The US didn't fund or create them.
I hope you're actually good at your job.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
The need for that imposition died of old age roughly 15 years ago.
The only reason Germany ran wild twice was because we (the victors of WWI) botched the unholy shit out of things the first time, basically wrecking Germany and creating a power vacuum.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Actually source of Intel is almost always extremely obfuscated as revealing how intelligence was gathered can compromise the source, possibly costing lives.
I don't think it matters what percentage of the intelligence is tainted, we won't be able to tell the difference; so from the public perspective all intelligence can be viewed as tainted.
Nope, you got it wrong.
Each country with diplomatic relations, with accredited staff in embassy and people abroad is free to gather information from public sources. That is called intelligence done by legals.
If a country is caught gathering information using illegal means that is called spying. Those who work under cover, by false identity and or role and spy are called illegals.
The simple fact that any information gathered by any means is called intelligence in home country is because no country is willing to admit it has used illegals and spied.
What they are doing is looking for dissent, and moonlighting for private companies. 60% of all surivailence is economic according to Snowden. They're spying on your business for your competitors who are paying moonlighting NSA agents.
They are spying on your kids who fed up with the system. They're making up terrorist plots to bust, with intellegence being used to help frame people
They looking for complainers, and harrassing activists. They are not preventing you, or your loved ones from dying horribly. You are more likely to die at their hands, or have you or your loved one have their life destroyed at by them then you are having them protect said lives.
I don't feel any fucking safer, in fact I feel less safe.