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$1B TSA Behavioral Screening Program Slammed As "Junk Science"

schwit1 writes The Transportation Security Administration has been accused of spending a billion dollars on a passenger-screening program that's based on junk science. The claim arose in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union, which has tried unsuccessfully to get the TSA to release documents on its SPOT (Screening Passengers by Observation Techniques) program through the Freedom of Information Act. SPOT, whose techniques were first used in 2003 and formalized in 2007, uses "highly questionable" screening techniques, according to the ACLU complaint, while being "discriminatory, ineffective, pseudo-scientific, and wasteful of taxpayer money." TSA has spent at least $1 billion on SPOT. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) reported in 2010 that "TSA deployed SPOT nationwide before first determining whether there was a scientifically valid basis for using behavior detection and appearance indicators as a means for reliably identifying passengers as potential threats in airports," according to the ACLU. And in 2013, GAO recommended that the agency spend less money on the program, which uses 3,000 "behavior detection officers" whose jobs is to identify terrorists before they board jetliners.

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  1. Security theater by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Informative

    TSA policies are security theater. Film at 11.

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    1. Re:Security theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I refuse to visit the US because of this. It's not because of the people.

      When the TSA makes unreasonable demands of me and they try to explain it with "if you have nothing to hide..." I'll have a very hard time not to reply with "Post your private parts on the internet. Or do you have something to hide?"

      I don't think this tactic would go well over for the TSA employees. :)

    2. Re:Security theater by Virtucon · · Score: 2

      I can assure you it's not just bad for people coming to the US, it's bad for everybody traveling within the US. The TSA security theater causes more delays than bad weather and the current "open, transparent" administration has put billions more into this charade. I travel sometimes every week and it's a pain in the ass. Because of this I always opt out of being scanned and force the pat down. It frustrates the officers and other travelers because you get to stand aside while a screening agent comes to get you. Yeah it adds 5 to 10 minutes per checkpoint but you know what I get special satisfaction in doing it especially if I haven't used deodorant that day.

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    3. Re:Security theater by gewalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The TSA is bad you US citizens including those that don't fly.

      1. Over 7 billion dollars in 2014 budget for TSA
      2. Who know how many lost tourism dollars>
      3. Long distance driving to avoid TSA.
      4. Loss of freedom encouraging government to further encroachment of freedoms.
    4. Re: Security theater by knightghost · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem here isn't the science, it's the pork.

      Behavioral science is half of a police officer's job. Problem is (besides pork barrel mismanagement) is that minimum wage TSA don't have the training, experience, or often the intelligence to use it effectively. Many airports that do this effectively will simply hire a good local police department to accomplish it.

      As for bashing the TSA, every time they try to do something reasonable (like ok nail clippers) they get fired by the politicians. So track the problem down to the source - dishonest politicians and the apathetic and ignorant public that votes them in.

    5. Re:Security theater by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And he probably won't go to those places, either. You don't seem to have a point.

    6. Re:Security theater by Nkwe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The TSA security theater causes more delays than bad weather.

      Citation please. While I agree that the TSA is mostly annoying security theater, my personal experience has been that bad weather has delayed me in getting to my destination more that the TSA has.

      I travel sometimes every week and it's a pain in the ass. Because of this I always opt out of being scanned and force the pat down.

      If you travel that often, why haven't you signed up for the PreCheck program? It lets you go back to the pre 9/11 security screening procedure. Truly frequent travelers can get in the program free via their airline, otherwise the application fee is not significant with respect to other travel costs and is worth it.

      I get special satisfaction in doing it especially if I haven't used deodorant that day.

      You intentionally frequently travel on a plane in tight quarters with lots of other people and you opt not to use deodorant?

    7. Re:Security theater by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "If you travel that often, why haven't you signed up for the PreCheck program?"

      Ihre Papiere Bitte.......

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    8. Re: Security theater by knightghost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is no silver bullet, but calling psychology a delusion only shows ignorance of the science.

      "Soft Sciences" are really just those with many variables. Training and experience deal with those rather than hard formulas that can be computed through software.

      Is that person nervous or relaxed? That comprises hundreds of variables. Are they defensive to questions? What about their return trip (while they are thinking they won't return)? etc etc etc

      Security is also layered. First is basic software profiling based on information about the person and flight. Second is physical screening. Third is behavioral screening. The list goes on.

      I'm a frequent traveler and see the TSA has 90% theatre. That won't change because the voters only want a warm fuzzy feeling, the politicians only care about votes and kickbacks, any sensible TSA executive gets fired, airlines are constantly trying to eliminate security for cost savings, and screeners are minimum wage employees (untrained, inexperienced). There's simply no driver to improve the situation.

    9. Re: Security theater by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually thats demonstrably false. The only evidence I need is.... the entire history of airport security prior to the creation of the TSA.

      Was airport security always a joke? You bet it was. It was always as much of a joke as it is now, but, it was a lot cheaper and, private security was not NEARLY as abusive to paying customers.

      Fact is, without government intervention, all this security mumbo jumbo would quickly blow over and security would be downsized appropriately. We pay quite a lot for the ever present paranoia of committees charged only with pissing themselves at every shadow.

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    10. Re: Security theater by Eunuchswear · · Score: 2

      Behavioral science is half of a police officer's job. Problem is (besides pork barrel mismanagement) is that minimum wage TSA don't have the training, experience, or often the intelligence to use it effectively.

      You mean TSA employees are to dumb to tell when someone is black?

      Because that's how the police do it.

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    11. Re: Security theater by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Israelis seem to have a pretty good method

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    12. Re:Security theater by Virtucon · · Score: 2

      If you travel that often, why haven't you signed up for the PreCheck program? It lets you go back to the pre 9/11 security screening procedure. Truly frequent travelers can get in the program free via their airline, otherwise the application fee is not significant with respect to other travel costs and is worth it.

      I'm already PreCheck but a lot of places don't have it yet and there is the random factor. For example, Las Vegas which is one of the worst places to go through with a domestic 2 hour pre-flight arrival recommendation. I guess they do that so you can gamble more before boarding the flight or going through the checkpoint.

      You intentionally frequently travel on a plane in tight quarters with lots of other people and you opt not to use deodorant?

      Not intentionally but only when I go through special airports on my list. It also cuts down on people reclining their seats. ;-)

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    13. Re:Security theater by cbhacking · · Score: 3

      The driving one is actually a really important point that deserves its own mention. Driving is a *lot* more dangerous than flying, even including Sep 11 and everything since. It not only wastes more of your life (takes longer), it (on average) shortens it. Keep people pissed off about TSA bullshit enough to drive instead of fly for long enough, and the TSA will (actually, quite possibly already has) be responsible for more American deaths than the Sep 11 terrorists.

      One site reporting the story (though not the primary source): http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-...

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    14. Re: Security theater by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Keep the public scared and you keep getting re-elected. Keep making the opposition government look incompetent then you keep getting re-elected. Thus if someone wants to allow nail clippers it's a two-for-one win: remind people why they're scared and point out how a government agency is too stupid to ban nail clippers.

      The incentive program for politicians is wrong, they're not being paid more if they do a good job.

    15. Re: Security theater by Mitreya · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm a frequent traveler and see the TSA has 90% theatre.

      Do you care to identify the 10% that you consider non-theater? Because I travel often, and I don't see it. There is, for example, not even a consistency with respect to how they do pat-down when you refuse the scanners. It really seems like they are making it up as they go along (or maybe it is city-based, I haven't compiled data). The only consistent thing they are taught to do is to check behind the ankle.

    16. Re:Security theater by brianwski · · Score: 2

      In San Francisco Airport (SFO) PreCheck is often the longer slower line now. It makes more sense NOT to do PreCheck now.

      An alternative would be to default people to PreCheck, call it "regular", and do away with the security theater parts of TSA immediately and forever. Like the quart container of liquids limit - which you can easily circumvent if you are a terrorist in several undefeatable ways - such as hiding liquids in prescription liquid bottles (hint: they do not ask you to produce any prescription) Or alternatively two terrorists meet in the bathroom past security and combine their liquids into one - instant and full proof defeat.

    17. Re: Security theater by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem here isn't the science, it's the pork.

      Pork has nothing to do with it and the science isn't all that bad.
      The problem is that SPOT is a diet-version of Israel's behavioral screening program, which is what makes it a waste of money.

      SPOT leaves out the naked profiling that Israel uses and it also completely neglects the intrusive (and lengthy) questioning of travelers.
      Basically, the two pieces that make it at all effective.

      To summarize, the Israeli system could never be fully transplanted into the USA because
      1. It profiles based on race, religion, and country of origin
      2. It is manpower intensive
      3. It puts security before anything, including your family of 5 missing their flight.

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  2. Let me guess by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    A billion dollar program to tell screeners that the Arab guy or black guy who is shaking like a leaf, mumbling "allah-ackbar" over-and-over under his breath, and wants to check a huge bag should maybe be singled out for additional screening.

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    1. Re: Let me guess by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, no. You've got it all wrong again.

      $900 million for the company running the screening program. Peanuts for the peons.

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    2. Re:Let me guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, except terrorists dress as average tourists. They aren't completely brain-dead. They are trained.

      The 'Arab guy or black guy who is shaking like a leaf, mumbling "allah-ackbar" over-and-over under his breath' probably just has fear of flying.

    3. Re:Let me guess by Major+Blud · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "They aren't completely brain-dead."

      I'm pretty sure that somebody willing to blow himself up on the premise that he'll receive 72 non-existing virgins in a place that doesn't exists ruled by a made-up deity fits of the definition of brain-dead pretty well.

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    4. Re:Let me guess by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're confusing brain-washed with brain-dead. Different things.

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    5. Re:Let me guess by JeffOwl · · Score: 4, Informative

      Deluded, uneducated, and stupid are separate concepts.

    6. Re:Let me guess by dave420 · · Score: 2

      The brain-washed are thinking, though. The brain-washing process just rewired various logical constructs in their brain and lets them continue thinking as they did before, albeit with a modified "firmware", if you will. To say they are not thinking is not going to help in fixing it.

    7. Re:Let me guess by spire3661 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Their young idiots are not much different from the young idiots we send out to fight them.

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    8. Re:Let me guess by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Effective implies effect. Effect implies change, what is it you are looking to change? Currently we have an average of 0 terrorist attacks a day, adding up to 0 per year....a number which has, aside from a statistically insignificant number of anomalies, has been the case for well....more than my entire lifetime, which is a bit more than 3 and a half times the lifespan so far of the TSA.

      Implementing the invasive and expensive program of questioning everyone with trained staff seems excessive given the magnitude of the problem.

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  3. Shyah, as if by loadedmind · · Score: 2

    Thank you Captain Obvious.

  4. Modern-day phrenology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the libertarian-leaning members of the audience, there was a nice article in Cato "Regulation" journal awhile back looking at this issue:

    "Screening Tests for Terrorists"
    http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/regulation/2013/1/v35n4-4.pdf

  5. The cost of learning by pellik · · Score: 4, Funny

    Before SPOT do you think the average TSA agent could readily identify and discriminate against very dark or very light skinned Arabic people? Well, after spending a billion dollars teaching them to do just that I'm sure they're slightly more consistent (maybe).

    1. Re:The cost of learning by nightcats · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is an insult to the memory of Data's cat.

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    2. Re:The cost of learning by jythie · · Score: 2

      It is also the conservative equivalent of new age, since it involves essentially looking into yourself and 'feeling out' who the bad guys are.

    3. Re:The cost of learning by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 2

      Well, half the TSA agents were seeing the same people as black people wearing gold chains, the other half were seeing white people with blue chains.

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  6. Of course it is ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    TSA is a place where money goes to be spent on the premise that spending money on things which do nothing is better than doing nothing, even if the outcomes are the same.

    They have a blank check to spend money on stuff with no proof it has any value.

    Other than harassing everybody, the TSA has accomplished very little. It's become a money pit which pretends to be keeping us safe.

    The TSA can point to very few incidents where they've actually stopped anything related to terrorism. Mostly they just serve to annoy everybody else.

    Meanwhile, the baggage handlers are the ones who keep getting caught smuggling stuff.

    The TSA is a pathetic joke, beefed up by reactionary politicians, and which utterly has failed to make anybody "safer" by any objective measure. In fact, everything they do seems to be devoid of "objective measure".

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    1. Re:Of course it is ... by RandomFactor · · Score: 2

      The TSA is a pathetic joke, beefed up by reactionary politicians,

      Having the state (in the form of the TSA) solve our real or perceived issues is a the opposite of a reactionary approach, It is actually a progressive one :-p

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    2. Re:Of course it is ... by nealric · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a real life manifestation of the Simpsons "Bear Patrol" episode.

  7. Working as designed by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A vehicle to get money into the correct pockets.
    Who ever said that India and China could ever beat the USA at anything - even corruption.

    1. Re:Working as designed by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      I think we've got a long way to go to catch up to India or China.

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  8. Chatting with passengers by DRichardHipp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recall going through security at the Charlotte, NC airport once, a few years ago, and noticed TSA agents out in the queue making smalltalk with all of the passengers. "Hey, how are y'all doin' today?", "Goin' someplace warm?", "Be sure to take off that belt buckle sir.", "Were are y'all headed?", "Y'all fly much?", and so forth. At first I thought that this was a misguided effort at public relations. But then it occurred to me that those agents were probably pre-screeners looking for nervous and evasive passengers who would then be subjected to additional traditional screening. I don't know what SPOT is and have no opinion of its effectiveness. But it seems to me that chatting up passengers in order to spot potential trouble-makers is probably the single most effective part of the whole TSA process.

    1. Re:Chatting with passengers by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      However, the real difference is the Israelis actually have highly educated and trained people doing this checking and investigation.

      I've obviously never run into those, then.

      Back in the real world, a nutter who's expecting to be shagging his seventy-two virgins in two hours is unlikely to be nervous, whereas people faced with the thought of being dragged off for an interrogation if they look nervous.... probably will be.

  9. It is NOT 'Junk Science' by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The SPOT program is going exactly what it was created to do
    Funnel money from the government (my pocket), into the pocket of the consultants, companies, and employees of whoever built it.

  10. Re:That's right. by Kobun · · Score: 4, Funny

    All of the planes flying can handle going from 1g to -1g. Up / down / up / down / up / down until anyone who isn't strapped in has been beaten senseless (or to death) by the plane's floor and ceiling. Passengers need to do very little.

  11. I saw it on TV - must be true by ripvlan · · Score: 2

    There are whole TV shows written around this very idea. One can simply observe mannerisms and jump to fully detailed truths about people. These writers must have something to base these plots lines on - they couldn't publish a TV show if it weren't true ...right?!

    So why shouldn't a TSA executive use the idea, sort out the details, get the best scientists/consultants to provide the truthiness, and create the real thing. I mean - isn't this what the Lone Gunmen proposed in X-Files? Secret science that was all true but hidden from us normal folks via conspiracy theories?!

    Junk Science is labeled by people who refuse to think outside the box. Go talk to the Creationists - they know what's going on.

  12. It's not ignorance. It's stupidity. by HBI · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let's just call it like it is. People are dumb. The monumental stupid that is around me just boggles the mind. I'll relate an example. My local HOA over the last two weeks had a Facebook board post frenzy about a guy who is wandering through the neighborhood rifling through people's unlocked cars. He (or they) leave the unlocked cars alone. Yet the people refuse to lock their car doors. Last Friday, one person's car was stolen, a BMW SUV with the keys in the car, doors open, left unattended and started to warm up on a 45 degree F day. (no warming required, really, for those who can't picture this) There's even a state law against doing just that. There's someone wandering around pillaging unlocked cars, and you leave your car started in front of your house? These people are allowed to vote and participate in society.

    Anyway, this level of stupid is one thing. The levels of stupid I see a couple towns over where people get their drugs are...stunning. Imagine CL ads where they list their phone numbers and "420 friendly" or "I'm holding" in the ad?

    Politicians know this is their constituency and they play to it. How do you think that dumb hopey changey shit worked? Very stupid people voting.

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  13. You are the problem by cbhacking · · Score: 4, Informative

    but it does feel a bit nicer when you're in a tin can miles above the earth

    Only if you're utterly ignorant or a complete coward. The TSA hasn't actually stopped any terrorist attempts. They haven't even stopped people from making terrorist attempts - there have been a few (leading to the reasons we now have to take off our shoes, for example) - but the TSA missed those.

    If you know how, it's utterly trivial to get shit past the TSA. I routinely opt out and go with the pat-down (which is significantly better security than the scanners, though only about half the time does the agent do a decent job of it) and still get prohibited items through the X-ray in my carry-on bags all the time. It's easy. For example, you're allowed to leave tablets in your bag (apparently, the dangerous part of a laptop is its keyboard? That's all that distinguishes it from a tablet these days) and the ones with metal cases do a pretty great job of blocking X-ray. You can get bottles full of liquids and gels through that way, no problem. I haven't actually tried it with anything that could plausibly be considered a weapon, but that's only subset of prohibited stuff anyhow...

    If security theater makes you "feel nicer", you're a weak-minded idiot and part of the problem.

    Note that I have no problem with the security practices of a lot of the rest of the world. Unlike the USA, India actually has a terrorist problem, and they are way, *way* better about screening people... but it still takes less time than the USA's checkpoints! (At least, that was my experience the two times I've flown through Delhi.)

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