Gen Con Threatens To Leave Indianapolis Over Religious Freedom Bill

Grymalkin writes A controversial religious freedom bill has passed the Indianapolis Senate and is now awaiting Governor Mike Pence's signature to become law. Supporters claim that this bill will protect business owners from excessive government control while opponents argue it is just a veiled attempt to allow those same business owners to deny services to individuals because of their sexual orientation. Now, Gen Con has released a statement saying this bill will influence their decision to keep the convention in Indiana. This announcement has tourism officials worried as Gen Con brings in roughly 50,000 visitors each year, contributing $50 million to the local economy. So far Gen Con's announcement has not swayed the Governor who says he is looking forward to signing the bill into law. Gen Con currently has a contract with the Indy Convention Center through 2020. No word yet as to exactly when the convention would be moved should the bill become law.

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Leave then

[WCMI92]

No one should have to perform INVOLUNTARY SERVICE for anyone.

A Christian baker should not have to bake a wedding cake for a gay "marriage". Likewise, should a muslim photographer be forced to photograph it?

For that matter a gay baker shouldn't have to bake a cake for a real marriage.

Freedom of association. It's in the Constitution.

Re:Leave then

[jeffmflanagan]

So the one where the wives are property is the only real marriage? That seems really regressive.

Re:Do It, it worked in AZ

[diamondmagic]

If you do not have the right to say "yes" or "no" that is not freedom, that is slavery. It is the threat of someone going to a court, ordering me to serve them, under threat of police action. That is wrong, we abolished that over a century ago.

The legal right to do something does not condone exercise of said right.

Not to mention your assertion is very dangerous; a sole proprietorship is a type of business. If a "business" can be required to serve a person, any individual can be required to serve a person.

Now, if I have a written offer of service, say, a price at a supermarket, you can't rescind that offer any faster than you can take the price down. But you can't walk into a bakery and say "I want you to quote me a price on a cake! And it needs to be a similar price to $member_of_some_other_group! And..." etc.

Re:Do It, it worked in AZ

[diamondmagic]

You are not a slave when your pizza boss tells you to take the trash out. You can refuse and be fired.

If I say no to my boss, I get fired. That's not slavery.

If saying "no" pits me against the government, I get fined or jailed, and anyone who resists is thrown in prison. That is slavery.

Only those individuals who are operating a business and only in the operation of that business.

Any purchase or sale of goods or labor by an individual is a sole proprietorship. Purchasing food from my grocery store, hiring lawn care, and selling baked goods are all the same kind of business conduct.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Re:Do It, it worked in AZ

[diamondmagic]

No. Slavery is NOT defined as whether or not you will end up in prison.

Let's ask Google: a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them."

If there was ever a modern day, legalized slavery, forcing someone to bake a cake for you sounds otherwise be imprisoned by the government sounds awfully darn like just like that.

Simply put, if you are selling a service, you pay different taxes than in you are purchasing groceries for your personal consumption.

Do you file a 1040? That's sole proprietor income. You're probably working for an employer, no different than the kid next door if I hired them to do my lawn, no different than if I sold baked goods from my own house. Still a sole proprietorship, it's all taxed the same.

Once you get out of high school (and maybe leave high school libertarianism behind) you will learn the difference. Maybe.

Are you trying to start a UID pissing match? And you call me a high schooler? (Well, maybe if I registered when I was in kindergarten... I wish...).

(But if you insist, mine's prime.)

In any event, I practice the Constitution as written by the Framers. Blatant attempts to ignore it is not my fault, but nice try on the victim blaming.