Google Loses Ruling In Safari Tracking Case
mpicpp sends this report from CNET:
The floodgates are now open for UK users to sue Google over privacy violations tied to tracking cookies. In a landmark ruling, the UK's Court of Appeal has dismissed Google's request to prevent British Web users from suing the company over tracking cookies and privacy violations. The decision was announced Friday, according to the BBC. In spite of default privacy settings and user preferences — including an opt-out of consent to be tracked by cookies — Google's tracking cookies gathered information on Safari browser users for nine months in 2011 and 2012.
By that logic, some freak could put a camera in their shower - or worse their KID'S shower and not get punished.
Yes, I know that much of the Internet based business hates privacy and tries to pretend it doesn't exist, but that is the enitre reason why we put those laws in place.
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On what grounds could one sue? I imagine it would be quite hard to prove real damages with a price-tag attached.
Also, we don't have class-action lawsuits in the UK.
Also, the new BBC News design looks truly awful on Firefox+NoScript on desktop. Not an improvement, BBC.
Google started in the gutter as a fucking AD AGENCY, and they went downhill to selling every detail of your private life they can get their grubby hands on.
Their fundamental business is to wring every last bit of privacy from you and SELL IT.
Don't tell me you EVER thought "Don't be evil" was anything other than a marketing slogan concocted by - get this - an ad agency.
If people opted out and were still tracked, that's fair game for suing.
Now what's the damages? A government trying to duplicate Chrome + Google search engine could not do so, and you'd probably have been taxed a hundred pounds per taxpayer in a failed attempt to do so.
So I'd offer to settle to keep allowing you to use Chrome and Google for free, or get the hell off and go to IE and Bing.
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This problem was caused by a bug in Safari that ignored the no tracking setting and accepted and returned the cookies. This court case is just absurd. The target should be Apple not Google.
If you don't need it, stop storing it. Why is this so hard to understand?
Do Google need to track absolutely everyone 24/7 across the whole internet? Probably not. Some autists see a massive data centre and the capability to track everything and they just can't help but fill up all those databases with useless bits. It's corporate OCD and there are entirel rituals and belief about it.
People go on and on about collations and marketing stats and prediction algorithms, but Google is drowning in big data just like everyone else. You can't catch terrorists and you'll never make back the investment in prediction vs a traditional marketing campaign.
Just stop storing it. Let Go.
It never ceases to amaze me how people will bend over backwards to justify and defend Google's actions.
You suffered no financial harm by the NSA tracking and collating reams of information about you... where's the damage? If Google violating your privacy is okay, why can't the NSA, or any other person who decides they can make a profit (or benefit somehow) off of collecting and selling your information, as long as you suffer no financial loss from the persistent, invasive monitoring they subject you to?
If I were a judge, I'd take your offer to settle, fine you as much as I was able to under the law, and do everything I could to kill your business in my jurisdiction, based on your flagrant disrespect for the law of the land. "Rule of law" is not a cute archaic phrase that should be thrown out as soon as it's inconvenient for Google.
Privacy law are quite stronger in EU. The fact that the privacy was breached *IS* the damage. there is no need to prove damage beyond the breach.
If people opted out and were still tracked, that's fair game for suing.
Now what's the damages? A government trying to duplicate Chrome + Google search engine could not do so, and you'd probably have been taxed a hundred pounds per taxpayer in a failed attempt to do so.
So I'd offer to settle to keep allowing you to use Chrome and Google for free, or get the hell off and go to IE and Bing.
Spoken like a true "Glad to be surveilled" Brit.
Expect successful lawsuits in Canada, where Privacy is a Constitutional Right, and eventually in the US by EU/UK and Canadian citizens protected against such actions by the EU/US and US/Canada Data Treaties.
(note: if you don't like that they have more rights in the US than you do, don't sign treaties giving them such rights next time)
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You seem to be unaware this is a civil case. In a civil lawsuit, you sue for damages. The examples you gave are criminal actions. People can go to jail for violating criminal laws even if no one was harmed at all. That distinction is fundamental to Western legal systems and you really should learn the basics some time.
In Australia government will be suing corporation for not spying on their users. (metadata retention laws)
I remember when DNS was how you got to a website. Anyone else remember those good old days?
"You want out of tracking? You talk to me" via hosts files http://start64.com/index.php?o... & firewall rules tables http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... (that's the one I built for THIS site vs. trackers & more) to SHEAR THAT SHIT OUT (& use a browser that's flexible + not being "sold to you" (even if/when 'free') on a line of bullshit, designed to "sell, sell, sell" YOU, the real 'big data' tracking product, which is WHY I use Opera 12.17 64-bit to this day -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... which allows MASSIVELY FLEXIBLE settings, by site, for javascript, cookies, iframes/frames, plugins & more...
* Sorry for the links but for the past couple years now here on this site, they often set "length limits" on posts - but the details (the important part) IS in those links...
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P.S.=> Not only is that setup BETTER, safer, & faster (than adding on more bullshit eating up CPU needlessly with the 'new horseshit' that isn't better but instead SLOWER & less flexible, largely I suspect, intentionally (even *trying* to 'skirt that' for the masses by say, Chrome, putting options that SHOULD BE GUI EASY onto commandline switching instead which MOST 'regular folks users' won't know enough to do imo - same shit adblock pulls, transparent & lame deceit that does a "CYA/CYB" to cover them if confronted on it) but it's also MORE EFFICIENT by using what you already have natively vs. "bolting on more" bullshit (that doesn't work & is paid NOT to do its job, like AdBlock AND AdBlock 'plus', what a misnomer, crippled by default - it's "Almost ALL Ads Blocked MINUS" in reality, doing less than hosts which do MORE with LESS)... apk
Oh I'm all broken up. Google knowingly breaks European laws, gets caught, and now has to pay the price. Boo hoo hoo, cry me a river.