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An anonymous reader writes On Slashdot, we frequently write derogatory comments regarding social networking sites. We bash Facebook and the privacy implications associated with having a great deal of your life put out there for corporations to monetize. Others advocate for deleting your Facebook profile. Six months ago, I did exactly that. However, as time went on, I have fully realized social media's tacit importance to function in today's world, especially if you are busy advancing your career and making the proper connections to do so. Employers expect a LinkedIn profile that they can check and people you are meeting expect a Facebook account. I have heard that not having an account on the almighty Facebook could label you as a suspicious person. I have had employers express hesitation in hiring me (they used the term "uncomfortable") and graduate school interviewers have asked prying questions regarding some things that would normally be on a person's social media page. Others have literally recoiled in horror at the idea of someone not being on Facebook. I have found it quite difficult to even maintain a proper social life without a social media account to keep up to date with any sort of social activities (even though most of them are admittedly quite mundane). Is living without social media possible in 2015? Does social media have so much momentum that the only course of action is simply to sign up for such services to maintain normality despite the vast privacy issues associated with such sites? Have we forgotten how to function without Facebook?
Linkedin setup a shadow account for me. Too many people wanted to vouch for my skills.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I get having a "professional" social media profile (a la LinkedIn) but no way in hell is a personal profile going to be up for discussion in any job interview I have. My private life is my life, not my employer's or prospective employer's. If they can't understand that I don't want to work for them anyway.
I don't give a shit, in my personal life if people "expect a facebook". I don't even have all my real-life friends associated with my one social media profile, I'm sure as hell not handing it out to every person I meet at some bar or party.
"Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional."
Is living without social media possible in 2015?
Stupid question. It's not only possible, it's easy. I've never had a Facebook or Twitter account and frankly it hasn't mattered a bit. Those services offer me nothing I value. If someone thinks you are odd or "recoils in horror" that you don't bother with Facebook then that tells you everything you need to know about them right there. Someone who looks down on you for ignoring the latest fad is an idiot you probably don't need to associate with. You don't actually need to know the banal details of everyone's Facebook account to have an active social life.
You do not need Facebook to have friends.
Nobody really cares what you say on Twitter.
You can get a job without LinkedIn.
Plenty of ways to share photos without Instagram.
Have we forgotten how to function without Facebook?
No. Seriously Facebook is NOT and never has been a necessity for most people. If Facebook entertains you then by all means have at it but it is unequivocally not a necessity. Email might almost be a necessity though even that is debatable.
I have never signed up for Facebook. I can count of the fingers of one hand with some fingers missing the number of times I have had someone say anything about me not having a Facebook account. I have seen online groups, where they have their own site nonetheless, where some of the members make meeting preparations or discussions on Facebook. I find this to be bizarre and completely rude to others. Why not keep your discussions on the site that was made for those discussions. If I want to communicate with people, I will use email or text messaging, or even a phone call. But then again, I don't want to broadcast my life to a bunch of strangers, so I must be weird and suspicious! I do have a Linked In account as that serves a different purpose. It allows me to keep track of work contacts for future use. Facebook has no use to me though and I will not get an account there.
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Not using social media is like never using a knife. Both are dangerous, but when used properly and with care can be exceptionally useful.
Are there times I'm careless with social media? I suppose there are certainly times I could be more reserved. But the more you [properly] manage your social media accounts the more you can gain from them. While you do open yourself up to a certain degree of transparency, you also offer an opportunity for people who offer you something beneficial to find you (ex: old friends displaced by time and distance, other hobbiests who share your passion).
If you don't own and never use a knife or other sharp-edged tool, you'll never have to worry about cutting yourself while using one. You'll also find that there are many tasks which are far more difficult to accomplish without one. And despite what you read in the news, you're pretty unlikely to kill, or even severely injure, yourself if used properly.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
1) Set up a personal web page - a blog, works, but it doesn't ahve to be one. You can put whatever you want on it. This gives people something to check online - but gives YOU the full control over it. No one linking to you, posting to your page, no advertisers steeling your information.
2) Maintain weekly contact with your friends by hand. Pick a single day - Sunday, whatver - and email (or call your good friends) all your actual, real friends about what you are up to and ask questions. If they are really your friend, they will email you back.
3) If a potential employer asks an inappropriate question be polite but call them on it in a way that makes you look good. "How often do you drink?" should be responded to with "I don't drink at all at work - do you have a problem with people drinking on the job?" Any question about your sex life should be politely taken as if they hitting on you. "I really don't think it's appropriate to date potential coworkers".
4) Be ready for questions about Facebook and have a good answer to it. Something that sounds sane, rather than crazy. If you are female this one works VERY well "After I found out an X stalked me on Facebook, I decided to delete my account. I get so much more work done now." It also works for men, but not as well.
Be prepared to lose some fair-weather friends/work. Just as a TV Producer would lose jobs if he decided to no longer watch TV. But your real friends and most worthwhile jobs will still like you. (Except with Facebook - if you want a job with Facebook, JOIN FACEBOOK)
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Four digit codger here, I rm'd my facebook profile over a couple of years ago and haven't looked back. It's refreshing. As an uber tek nerd, mmo fiend, etc. now "old codger", take it from me... rm facebook, rm your mmo, limit Steam to a few hours a week, and go outside. Hike, Fish, buy a cheap sailboat and goto the Bahamas or the Keys. Stop searching online for that cool landscape wallpaper for the latest greatest distro you installed, and go outside and see that beautiful landscape in person.
Awesome!
I would wager that 80% of my social circle all don't have a Facebook account. (age 28-36), non-tech people primarily [doctors, grad students, mechanic, cooks, artists]; all university educated, and well-learned.
It's generally not viewed as a "safe" item to have, or to participate in.
We are the transitory age of people where the internet kinda took off during high-cshool, and for me, the huge dot-com crash happened the year before I entered college, so I was completely isolated from that entire scenario, and have no real context for it. But, it presumably shaped how our education was, and to be taught to be suspicious of consolodating information online, because "anything you say can and will be used against you"
I would wager that 80% of my social circle all don't have a Facebook account. (age 28-36), non-tech people primarily [doctors, grad students, mechanic, cooks, artists]; all university educated, and well-learned.
It's generally not viewed as a "safe" item to have, or to participate in.
We are the transitory age of people where the internet kinda took off during high-cshool, and for me, the huge dot-com crash happened the year before I entered college, so I was completely isolated from that entire scenario, and have no real context for it. But, it presumably shaped how our education was, and to be taught to be suspicious of consolodating information online, because "anything you say can and will be used against you"
The only winning move is to install noscript.
Or redirect their entries in /etc/hosts to 127.0.0.1.
That way myspace, digg, reddit, twitter, google+, pinterest, linkedin, and every other social site that's managed to get tracking scripts installed in other sites won't be able to track you.
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Facebook, et al. can only "put out" as much as you put in.
No, Facebook can only "put out" as much as everybody else puts in. For example my classmates from primary school are a tightly connected clique and since some of them have told Facebook they went to the same school, Facebook has correctly deduced that everybody in that clique probably went there too and is asking me to confirm it, but they basically know anyway. Another relative of mine did some genealogy thing and basically drew up the whole family tree for Facebook. Same with people tagging you in photos and checking you in and whatnot, even though you can hide it from your own timeline or even untag yourself Facebook knows that when a friend tagged you it was almost certainly correct. I doubt they really forget anything.
And most annoyingly, Facebook often knows when I send email because the one I send to has shared their address book/inbox with Facebook. There's no other way some of those "friend suggestions" could turn up on social media, so even when you try to keep a life separate from Facebook it's no good when the other end is being a tattle-tale. And I don't know if it's just my friends, but my impression is that you don't reach out and actually tell friends about the things that friends normally get told about. They post it to Facebook and expect people to have read it there, that's more or less the expected way to socialize. Not reading Facebook gets you the "Oh sorry, I didn't know you were stationed on a nuclear submarine under radio silence" looks.
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The youth are not embracing facebook. Facebook is a brand, and it is hated by too many taste makers. Facebook doesn't taste good. Any employer that likes facebook is already behind the curve, pun intended.
Most people on facebook are not on facebook. They have inactive profiles. They may check to peep those who are active, but beyond that, there is very little utility or upside to those who quit caring. And this is always a simple function of time; everyone quits caring eventually. Facebook will continue to insist these peepers are "active" but no, this bluff was tried by Google+ and it won't fool anyone. Those looking for a job might clean up their profile just in case, but this doesn't mean they're on or using facebook.
Facebook will become the next myspace. That's why Facebook, being run by people who know this well, is buying what could be to facebook what facebook was to myspace. That's why Instagram and WhatsApp needed to be purchased.
Facebook is moving beyond a platform. Social media to them is now about real estate. You can move off from facebook to instragram like one would from Santa Monica to Venice. But your landlord is still facebook.
Here is one concrete example of why Instagram is amazing and Facebook sucks. When a brand posts something on Instagram, there is no "promoting" their post, there is no "mining impressions", and there is no "paying for likes". There is no machine learning optimized feed. Instagram pushes a photo to everyone instantly, and the response is also unencumbered and immediate. And it has no ads. Unlike facebook, Instagram does not stand in between you and your followers. All their efforts into the quality of what facebook should be doing on facebook, yet the answer was to not be there at all. The presence of the "host" is not welcome in any social setting, not online or offline. We don't need the waiter or waitress to feed us at the restaurant while reading ads. That's facebook.
Seriously, facebook sucks. It's future is dead. Even just for the reason that my mom has twice as many friends than I do and all her peers love it. She just turned 70.
I don't do Social Media/Networking at all (and I rarely, if ever, miss it).
A couple of years ago, my boss sent me a LinkedIn invite. I said "Well, it's my boss; so..." and started to fill-out the application.
I got to some point, and said "Screw this. I'm not giving up (whatever info it was it wanted)." , and CANCELLED the rest of the application. Mind you, I had NOT completed the Application, so theoretically, no LinkedIn "Account" was created...
Too late! My work email, which had been blissfully SPAM-FREE for two years, INSTANTLY started receiving about a dozen pieces of SPAM per day!
It eventually (almost) stopped; but I learned a valuable lesson: Despite the language regarding "We won't sell your email addy into cyber-slavery", it's all a big lie (go figure!)
So that, was that. I stuck my toe into Social Media, and promptly got it bitten-off. So, no more for me!
Just do it. Once I realized that people who I enjoy talking to don't care if I have a phone, my life got a lot better. $80/mo is better spent on bar tabs with friends than on a cellphone. I sleep better, work better, think better, and live better. Granted, I've got a google voice number so people can text me, but I check that when I check email, 3 times a day. The people I want to spend time with find me valuable enough to call or schedule ahead, and the people who are offended that I'm not obligated to immediately respond to them 24/7 aren't really worth spending time with.
Granted, I've got stable employment, so not having a facebook account isn't an impediment, and I've got a linked in account to publish my CV for the few people who care, but do you really want to work for any company that has an issue with you not having a facebook account? I've walked out of interviews before. "It's clear that I'm not a good match for your corporate culture, and I appreciate the value of your time, so let's call this done. Thank you for the interview, goodbye."
All of my friends and family know that I don't have any such account, so they wouldn't be fooled in the first place. Even if they were, they'd certainly ask me about it! I don't see any real risk there.
Tell them you never saw the need. That your close friends and family don't use it much so you never bothered.... Although your sister has one and all does is plays are silly games and gossips all day and you really don't have any time or interest in that.
Then deflect the idea that you are somehow superior to people who do have facebook accounts by just discussing something you ARE active in.
The key is to appear "normal but without a facebook account" rather than "secretive or condescending".
Once you've leapt over that hurdle, you can talk about privacy harvesting, the study showing that facebook corresponds with lower levels of happiness, the estimated $30 billion in the US alone in lost productivity due to time wasted on facebook, the risks of oversharing and that anything on the internet is public and forevor, and then joke about the absurdity of voluntarily "joining an advertising company".
By the end of most conversations I have with people about facebook they don't think I'm suspicious or condescending or weird. I haven't sold them them on closing their account and I always concede that facebook has its uses and agree that its great for keeping in touch with friends and family abroad... although I already use X,Y,Z for that myself (steam, skype, facetime... whatever...).