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USPTO Demands EFF Censor Its Comments On Patentable Subject Matter

An anonymous reader sends this report from TechDirt: As you know, last year the Supreme Court made a very important ruling in the Alice v. CLS Bank case, in which it basically said that merely doing something on a general purpose computer didn't automatically make it patentable. ... However, the USPTO apparently was offended at parts of the EFF's comment submission, claiming that it was an "improper protest." Protest or not, the EFF denies in strong terms that the original comments were improper.

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  1. Re:Cue... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dunno, it seems to me that an RFC is rather the best place to comment on a subject.

    You could say they even requested it.

  2. Patents SHOULD get harder to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As tech moves along eventually we do find nearly everything. Novel things should become more and more rare. But at the filing rate, they are seeing the opposite. This group is basically trying to undo what the supreme court said so they can make sure they file more things with slight changes in the wording. It is simple job protectionism.

  3. Re:Cue... by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's more along the lines that the USPTO made up it's mind and then asked for comments because they had to. Then yelling SHUT UP! should anyone offer an opinion they don't share.

  4. Re:USPTO IS a branch of government by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At the same time, it perfectly illustrates that the new guidelines are inadequate since they approved a patent that is almost identical to one the courts specifically ruled invalid.

  5. Re:Look at the table in the PDF by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Would have been a lot more clear to say "the redacted bits are from patents approved by the USPTO." I hate having to go on easter egg hunts to confirm if this is something I should care about.

    And for Cassini2 specifically, it's not an issued patent vs. rejected patent. Both were issued, the point being that the new one was issued after the first was invalidated by a district court. And about 5 months after Alice. And the second was a continuation of the first, not a new patent. That's why they are so similar, and probably why they didn't halt the process and re-evaluate it.

    USPTO wanted comments on the guidance, not pointing out where they are failing to meet the guidance. This is where the EFF probably overstepped.

    I have a problem with this part. The Alice decision was basically "adding a computer doesn't automatically make it novel" - the court did not agree that "adding a computer automatically doesn't make it novel" - those are two distinct ideas. And what the EFF pointed out in the chart was that two allowed patents were basically the same, which is what a continuation patent implies, and has nothing to do with Alice.

    It's one thing to have a point, but the EFF was protesting the similarity of two patents, not illustrating how the second fell short of the Alice test, and it really had nothing to do with comments on the guidance itself, which is what the USPTO was asking for. Including protests in consideration of feedback on guidance is not how things work. I won't go into that, but there's a place for such things and this isn't it.

    And I agree, EFF has a legitimate point. But this was not the way to point it out.

    Legally, this is what I read:

    Q: "How can we do our jobs better?"
    A: "You aren't even doing your jobs, idiots."

  6. Re: Cue... by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because it highlights that the USPTO is doing a sloppy job and don't review patents at all, just check the formalia and let courts decide if they are valid or not.

    Probably because the patent engineers don't know squat about the stuff they get to review.

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