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How Comcast Bankrolls Organizations That Support TWC Merger

An anonymous reader writes: When Comcast announced it was pursuing a takeover of Time Warner Cable, many activists and internet users immediately submitted objections to the deal. Support came more slowly, but steadily, from organizations like the International Center for Law and Economics, and from politicians like Governor Phil Bryant (R-MS). Now, a NY Times report reveals that much of this support for the merger came in exchange for money from Comcast. Fortunately, even after spreading money around so liberally, Comcast is still struggling to find a coherent, believable message for regulators, and the deal is far from assured.

From the article: "Letters detailing the benefits of the Comcast deal were submitted to the Federal Communications Commission by staff members from Americans for Tax Reform, the American Enterprise Institute, the Institute for Policy Innovation, Competitive Enterprise Institute, the Free State Foundation and the Center for Individual Freedom, as well as by a professor at a technology program at the University of Pennsylvania, all of which received support from Comcast or its trade association, tax documents and other disclosures reviewed by The New York Times show. A similar pattern is evident with charities like the Urban League and more than 80 other community groups that supported the media company and that also accepted collectively millions of dollars in donations from the Comcast Foundation over the last five years, documents reviewed by The Times show."

59 comments

  1. 3 2 1 OUTRAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A business is trying to make money RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWR

    1. Re:3 2 1 OUTRAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Exactly. Why would anyone expect Comcast to do anything else besides what's in their best interests? No news here...

    2. Re:3 2 1 OUTRAGE by jythie · · Score: 1

      That they will do what is in their best interests is predictable and reasonable. What they are able to do and how they do it on the other hand are worth examining.

      To take an extreme (at least in the US) example, picture a company simply having its rivals killed or kidnaps the children of officials with power over their merger. Both of these are things that would be in their best interests, but we generally do not want companies to be able to take those kinds of steps without consequences that make it against their best interests.

  2. This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, but the problem is what they are doing should be illegal.

    Politics and business should be kept separate, just as church and state are. Most of the problems in politics today are because someone is being bankrolled by a company that doesn't have the people's interests at heart. This conflict of interest is what will lead to America's demise.

    1. Re: This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      separation of church and state.. Really?

    2. Re:This should be illegal though by e065c8515d206cb0e190 · · Score: 1

      "just as church and state are"... have you seen a dollar bill recently (as, post 1956)?

    3. Re:This should be illegal though by Livius · · Score: 2

      have you seen a dollar bill recently

      Something about trusting in gold. (I assume that's short for Goldman-Sachs.)

    4. Re:This should be illegal though by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Why is bribery a bad thing? It gets good results. Money is speech, and it makes sure the actions of the government is representative of the will of those governed. Just make sure they properly declare the income.

    5. Re:This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In the TFA we have a crooked corporation caught red handed handing out ILLEGAL BRIBES to support its agenda.

      Yet we have idiots like the OP, focusing on details such as this.

      This world is doomed, people. You heard it here first.

    6. Re: This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's such a minor quibble compared to how much the government and big business are in bed.

    7. Re:This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it makes sure it's only responsive to the wealthy.

    8. Re:This should be illegal though by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      You realize you are talking about the US right? That's by design.

    9. Re: This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tempted to rate this funny

    10. Re:This should be illegal though by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      In actuality, it was supposed to be representative of everyone with skin in the game, so to speak. Yes, that would by definition be the wealthy. That's how our founders set up our government, a republic, not a democracy.

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      The cesspool just got a check and balance.
    11. Re:This should be illegal though by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      Separate politics and business? Do you mean to say that government shouldn't be allowed to regulate business? No? Then business and politics are ALREADY entwined.

    12. Re:This should be illegal though by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      With liberty and justice for all (white male landowners).

    13. Re:This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With liberty and justice for all (white male landowners).

      Works for me.

    14. Re:This should be illegal though by sabbede · · Score: 1
      So? People support politicians that share their positions, that's neither new nor bad. And there is no such thing as "the people's interests". There are over 300 million often conflicting individual interests, plus collective interests of various groups (Sierra Club, NRA, Unions, Businesses, etc.), through which individuals express a subset of their interests in unison.

      Interests are a complex subject. If you work for Comcast (or own stock in it), they're promoting your interests with what they're doing, even though you might also have an interest in keeping the marketplace competitive. The system through which we balance all of these often contradicting interests is called Politics.

    15. Re:This should be illegal though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works for me too. It's my business/job. Doesn't for AK Marc (welfare case) and he's too dull-witted to realize you aren't well off until your money works for you, rather than the other way around.

    16. Re:This should be illegal though by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Welfare? You are just jealous that I'm in the top 10%. You don't understand someone who (successfully) plays the game but recognizes and says it's rigged.

  3. Tail wags dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What Comcast is doing should be considered fraudulent, but legally speaking, it isn't

    And it is an example of how useless the government of the United States has become --- a government is supposed to be an enforcement body to ensure the stability of a society and the application of justice to smooth out the wrinkles that have formed in the fabric of the society

    But the US government has failed miserably - the cabal factions within turning the entire organization rogue, creating a power vacuum in which private corporations such as Comcast also is more than happy to take advantage of

    Under a proper running government Comcast will never be allowed to do what it does, but the fact is, the government of the United States of America is no longer a functional entity

    1. Re:Tail wags dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Under a proper running government Comcast will never be allowed to do what it does

      Provide Cable Television ?

    2. Re: Tail wags dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One side says the app is broken and the only fix is to pull the flawed features. The other says the solution is to add new features to fill in the gaps. Does anyone talk about fixing the problems?

    3. Re:Tail wags dog by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      If they only provided cable television, that would be fine. What Comcast has now is a monopoly over the roads that enable people to access the internet.

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      Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
    4. Re:Tail wags dog by sabbede · · Score: 1
      No. That's completely wrong.

      This is part of how the system works. I don't like Comcast or what they're planning to do with the merger, but they are well within their rights to promote their interests. That they can do so while you promote your own competing interest means the system is working.

      Put another way, that Comcast is allowed to do what it does means the government is running properly.

    5. Re:Tail wags dog by Holi · · Score: 1

      Except when their point of view involves using money as speech. If you need to have a 130 people running around Washington throwing money around chances are what ever you want is only good for you, and more then likely bad for everyone else.

      --
      Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
    6. Re:Tail wags dog by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Why should that be the case? There are lobbyists throwing money around Washington to promote just about every possible point of view, including yours.

  4. Next step by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Investigate any elected officials Comcast has paid to gather support and prosecute any who have accepted bribes.

    Hang on, we're talking about USA, home of the corrupt politician. Forgot I said anything.

    1. Re: Next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously?? The USA is heaven compared to places like China, Russia, or pretty much any third world country.

      I know it's cool to bash on America, bit how about at least think about what you say before saying something as absurd as this.

    2. Re: Next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your only defense is "its still better than China" you have serious problems.

  5. Money Talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit Walks

  6. Just like AT&T and DirecTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone acts like this is a done deal.

  7. Not new behavior, in any case by macraig · · Score: 1

    I don't know if this is supposed to be shocking because it's new behavior, but it's not (new behavior). I saw the very same selfish gimme-my-cut-of-the-bigger-pie behavior from nonprofit community groups in particular when the California Public Utilities Commission held public hearings to gather input about the proposed merger of AT&T and SBC (formerly Pacific Telesis Group, formerly Pacific Bell, formerly AT&T, ad nauseum).

    There were representatives from quite a few local community nonprofit groups from all over California in attendance. They were there almost universally for one reason: to promote the merger and thus guarantee their cut of what they deemed to be a bigger pie if the merger were approved. California state law requires that utilities set aside a percentage of their profits to return to the local communities they rape errrr support. This is done in part via the aforementioned nonprofits, who receive a significant share.

    They had all analyzed the effect of the merger and concluded that it would result in a more profitable company, which would thus set aside a larger pool of CPUC mandated funds, and thus they'd receive more money than before. They didn't give a damn whether the merger was actually beneficial for the people they supposedly served (it wasn't); they only cared about grabbing more money.

  8. Figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a Republican that supports that BS. You don't even need to put the (R) next to his name. It's a given.

    1. Re:Figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans are the party of big business. They always talk about the mom and pop shopkeepers on Main Street, but their PAC money comes from the Comcasts, Exxon Mobils, and JP Morgan Chases and they vote accordingly. Classic example is the interchange (swipe) fees, where they sided with the big banks over the merchants who have to pay the ridiculously high fees.

    2. Re:Figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it's Democrats that made it possible.
      Hell let em buy monopolies.

    3. Re:Figures by BoberFett · · Score: 2

      You idiot, both sides are taking their cut.

      https://www.opensecrets.org/or...

    4. Re:Figures by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, you believe the Democrats are "for the little guy"?

      You're as stupid as the guy you replied to.

      https://www.opensecrets.org/or...

  9. give me a couple million dollars.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and i'll support the merger, too.

  10. DirecTV needs ATT by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Just think about it good TV + Good internet (just think u-verse with out useing part of it's bandwidth for TV)

    Comcast cable TV sucks there internet is fast. But I have OLD ATT DSL (in a u-verse area) I don't want to give up Directv for u-verse lower bit rates and HD streams limit. I can get comcast but there have a very weak HD line up + big mess of a channel map.

    1. Re:DirecTV needs ATT by sconeu · · Score: 1

      You don't have to take the triple play. I have TWC for TV and UVerse for phone/Internet.

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      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  11. You are so right! by EzInKy · · Score: 2

    What the government should be doing is providing the infrastructure that enables competition. Ensuring fair and equal access to the commons is what governments are for. What we get here in the US monopoly enforcement.

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    Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
  12. Even The "State" of Alaska by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like Alaska Legislators desire Money.

    Senate: http://akleg.gov/senate.php
    House: http://akleg.gov/house.php

    Representative.Steve.Thompson@akleg.gov
    Representative.Mark.Neuman@akleg.gov

    Senator.Anna.MacKinnon@akleg.gov
    Senator.Pete.Kelly@akleg.gov

    Q1: Why do you and your children deserve to LIVE?

    Q2: What have you done to deserve to LIVE?

    Q3: Obviously the answers to Q1 and Q2 are NULL.

    Q4: Why must I suffer for YOUR SINS!

    Just remember boys and girls, human flesh can burn at air temperature of -60 C and lower: it is just a question of ... igniter. So, when you smell the kerosene being poured onto your house you only have a few minutes to get out. Ha ha, we nailed the windows and doors shut. HA HA! FUCK YOU!

    The Deaths of Winter in Alaska

  13. And this is a surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big business lobbying for support by giving "donations" and whatnot so they can do something that makes them more money (many times screwing over the consumers) has been around for a while I believe.

  14. Fraud? Hmm by s.petry · · Score: 1

    Bribery and coercion are better legal avenues, but of course the DoJ was bought and paid for decades ago so that won't happen. IANAL but I know there is legal precedent for strong arm tactics like this. Comcast is not the first company to think "Hey, if I use a middle man they will never know it was us!"

    Yeah, you say it perfectly in your third paragraph. The US Government has failed miserably - at just about everything except for protecting the extremely wealthy and ensuring that that class keeps getting more wealth. Outside of that, I can't think of a single success story. VA, IRS, GAO, FDA, CIA, FBI, ATF, DEA, DoJ, DoE, FCC, FDA, Department of the Navy, Secret Service, etc.. etc.. have all caught in corruption and scandals within the last 2 years. Some are just openly corrupt and don't give a fuck. Why should they care to hide it, the populace won't do anything because some celebrity news just hit the broadcast channels and *ooh look a shiny**.

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  15. I support the merger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now fucking pay me bitch. Yes there is nothing even remotely moral about the way the USAian actors are acting today. The USA is becoming Mexicanized. The companies and government fuck over the little guy. However in Mexico the little guy would get back by having the gangs kidnap the Comcast executives. I am all for this. The USAians need to b more like Mexicans. By implementing a program of executive kidnapping I feel we can show the world that USAians are no longer insulated by our own culture. If USAians adopt the Mexican traits of hard work, drug dealing, kidnapping, and chicken fucking, we can develop a more inclusive and nonjudgmental society. No longer will we feel pride just because we do not fuck chickens. As a matter of fact, it will be a requirement to get any kind of job. Chickens need love too.

    It is one world order. There are no borders, no laws, no values. It is just one world controlled by the mighty dollar. I say fuck it.

    Some of you faggots will say I am racists. Bullshit. I am trying to be more like Mexicans. As a matter of fact since starting to write this, I have fucked 4 chickens. How many chickens have you fucked. Who's the racist now.

    1. Re:I support the merger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "USAian" - Does not describe anyone. The US is the ONLY country with America in it's name, We have always been called Americans. Ask any other country on either continent North or South who the Americans are and they will point you to us, and they would all be insulted if you called them Americans. So use the fucking correct term.

  16. The interesting part by no-body · · Score: 1

    in all of this is that it is not actually a "Comcast" or other juristic entity but the people lining up behind a certain idea and then marching in lock-step.
    So - are they all hypnotized or is it some hard-wired crowd behavior?

    Nobody will get into a "power" position without conforming to some standard behavior present in a particular group.
    I guess, a lot of it is fear-driven, by being afraid loosing a familiar surrounding or whatever one identifies as being advantageous.

    The other thing is the spectators around simlpifying the issue, projecting their disgust and hatred on some neural association - Comcast/Time-Warner merger is "bad". On one side, but nobody would pursue something like that without seeing a benefit.
    Who is the driving part behing this? The individuals pushing this forward, who are they - what kind of persons? Sickos to do something like that or swimming on top of the cream, wanting to stay there with their companion-floaters sucking everyone below them and getting high on it?

    I think, identifying the individual pushers, publishing their names, bio and what else they do to make the crap transparent would help better.

    Somewhere in their hypnosis, there must be a part living where it knows all this is not so great..

     

  17. But... by klui · · Score: 1

    "but... but...

    2 Gbps for everyone."

  18. Comcast bribes people to write letters to the FCC? by DougPaulson · · Score: 0

    Anonymous Troll: "A business is trying to make money RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWR"

    Comcast bribes people to write letters to the FCC Comcast bribes people to write positive letters to the FCC .. BUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWR ...

  19. It goes without saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I had a gun with two bullets while being locked in a room with Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, and Comcast, I would shoot Comcast....twice. Then pistol-whip Comcast for good measure.

  20. Scummy company... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    doing scummy things. Film at 11.

  21. You say "bankrools"... by rnturn · · Score: 1

    ... I say "bribes". You have to admit that much of what is, today, considered "support" or a "donation" is really a thinly-disguised bribe.

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    CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
  22. Who should be ashamed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast is a corporation whose management is responsible to its share holders. It operates (hopefully) in their best interests which may or may not coincide with those of the public in general. I find their efforts to influence legislators and the FCC to take actions which will protect and improve their profit to be wholly legitimate.

    On the other hand I find "...with charities like the Urban League and more than 80 other community groups that supported the media company and that also accepted collectively millions of dollars in donations from the Comcast Foundation over the last five years" to be disturbing. This implies that the Urban League and a substantial number of charity and community organizations are for sale to the highest bidder.

    Now that is shamefull.

  23. #1 problem by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    The biggest problem is that some congressmen have Comcast at home. There's no escaping that lovely firsthand experience.
    (yes I know Comcast offered elite, custom US support plans and free internet to some congressmen)

  24. Re:Fraud? Hmm by Holi · · Score: 2

    "the populace won't do anything because some celebrity news just hit the broadcast channels and *ooh look a shiny**." That's close but not really accurate, it just sounds like you feel superior to everyone else. The real problem is in this age of 24 hour news channels I still get more news from my local 6pm News then I do from 24 hours of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, They all harp on the same story non stop never touching one the myriad of other stuff happening in the worlds. We have no journalists willing to hold peoples feet to the fire. It's like the Press, the Politicians and their Corporate masters are all sitting around in some weird mutual reach around. It's not that we don;t want the News, it's that we are never even offered it.

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    Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
  25. Re:Fraud? Hmm by s.petry · · Score: 1

    Finding interest in Politics/History/Philosophy does not make anyone "better" than someone else, nice accusation from ignorance. It does however indicate that I have a wealth of knowledge on those subjects, and perhaps that makes you feel inferior.

    No, "News" is not the problem. The problem is that bread and circuses have been known to prevent revolts, even when they are needed to correct entrenched corruption. History is pretty clear on this point, perhaps you can study up on Roman history if you feel inferior somehow. The majority of people don't have, nor do they want, interest in Politics. You can go back further in history to Athens for historical references.

    I also gave the reference for you to study the depth and breadth of corruption in the US Government.

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  26. Too big to merge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast and Time Warner are both already too big. They have both become a Monopoly in their areas, and now Comcast wants to gobble them up? Comcast is notorious for violating peoples rights and sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, and for asserting control over people.

    I would not be surprised to see a military response on the board members of Comcast.