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Organic Molecules Found Circling Nearby Star

sciencehabit writes Astronomers have detected chemical precursors of building blocks of life in the large disk of dust and gas whirling around a young nearby star. These complex organic molecules, two forms of cyanide and one chemically related compound, likely formed after the protoplanetary disk collapsed, the researchers say. The same chemicals are found in roughly similar proportions in comets circling our sun, which may have brought them to Earth billions of years ago. "We know that the solar system isn't unique in its number of planets or abundance of water," says Karin Öberg, an astrochemist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "Now we know that we're not unique in organic chemistry. From a life in the universe point of view, this is great news."

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  1. Life by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Many are increasingly of the opinion that we've all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some say that even the trees have been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.

  2. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    First a story about how plentiful water is, and now we discover that the molecules of life are plentiful too. There is absolutely no doubt that life has a foothold everywhere in this universe. We just need to get out there and find it. Then we can either fuck it, eat it, tax it, or worship it.

    1. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cyanide: "molecule of life." Indeed.

    2. Re:Wow. by sribe · · Score: 2

      Then we can either fuck it, eat it...

      You do realize, that never in our history, have those two choices been exclusive?

    3. Re:Wow. by justthinkit · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially if you're a female praying mantis.

  3. So life is a possibility... by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    It would suck for life if organic molecules didn't exist.

    1. Re:So life is a possibility... by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      the Horta in the cave out back wishes to have a word with you.

  4. Does it have to be great news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not saying it's bad news, but does it have to be great? Can't it just be news, of what we have now found in space

  5. If a policeman murders a black dude, its ignored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The organic molecules of Walter Scott are now job-less.

  6. Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope its more star trek than stargate

    1. Re:Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean humans in rubber foreheads as opposed to humans without rubber foreheads?

      Not too many bona fide aliens in Stargate.

  7. I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new cyanide molecule overlords. But where are they? Oh wait...

  8. Amazing by Aspiring+Astronomer · · Score: 1

    This kind of science completely fascinates me! I am currently a sophomore in high school and am completely in love with Astronomy! Any suggestions for colleges that have great Astronomy programs, where I can eventually earn a PhD?

    1. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am not an astronomer, but I am an academic in the hard sciences. My advice:

      If your goal is academics, you should know that it is fairly uncommon to get a bachelors, masters, and Ph.D. all at the same school. It's not impossible or anything, but it is rare for whatever reason. Some people even frown upon it. So... focus on your undergrad first. Get your solid fundamentals down. Find a school that has a long-running program for undergraduates in astronomy or astrophysics. This will probably overlap with an well-established graduate program, even if not a top tier one. Get to know your professors. Really. Volunteer to do grunt work for their research. You will a) get incredibly valuable experience and (presumably) good referral letters for when you go to graduate school, and b) you will get to see what research in the field is actually like (usually less than glamorous), and make an informed decision if it is the right career for you before you rush out to be a poorly paid grad student somewhere.

      You will also get an inside scoop on who is doing interesting research that you could potentially be a part of. That is, when it is time to apply for graduate school, you will know professors who can make recommendations about other schools/professors that will have the most interesting research and potential funding dollars. If the stars align just right (pun intended) and you really gel with a particular professor that has some extra funding, you might be able to stay on as a graduate student at the same institution.

      Keep in mind also that WHO you worked for when you get your Ph.D. matters at least as much as WHERE. There are some really very smart and well-known people that might not be at the #1 school out there. If you work for them as a graduate student, people in the field will see that and respect it more than an institution name. And you will have to work with this person for four+ years, so personality is also important. Try to meet face-to-face before you make any decisions, because a bad working environment can really make your life miserable, especially when someone you don't get along with very well has so much control over your professional future. Talk to other graduate students and try to find out as much as possible about what working for Prof. $NAME is like. It's a bit down the road in your case, but I hope you remember it if you do indeed go this route.

      Good luck!

    2. Re:Amazing by Aspiring+Astronomer · · Score: 1

      Thank you! This was very helpful!

  9. Organic Molecules found in the street! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found a pile of organic molecules right in the middle of the street. It smelled and looked like a skunk. All the molecules necessary to make a skunk were there. But there was no live skunk. Perhaps the molecules will reassemble themselves... Or not.

  10. Cyanide? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    These complex organic molecules, two forms of cyanide and one chemically related compound..

    Doesn't sound very hospitable. Was this found on planet Zyklon B or something?

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  11. Earn the right to vote by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    This is clearly a bug asteroid. It's your duty to sign up into the Mobile infantry immediately.

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  12. What was actually found by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    hydrogen cyanide (HCN): occurs everywhere (not the least of which is your cars tailpipe), all you need is the elements and hea
    methyl cyanide (CH3CN), once again occurs everywhere, all you need are the elements plus oxygen helps
    cyanoacetylene (HC3N) Not familiar with this but be willing to bet you can get it by just applying heat again.

  13. Re:If a policeman murders a black dude, its ignore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's not ignored I've seen it hundreds of times today... ok so it's not on a nerd news site. if it was ACs just like you would be asking how that's "News for Nerds"
    get your head out of your ass

  14. idiotic by samantha · · Score: 1

    An "organic molecule" is no different from any other molecule nature brews up. It just happens to be one of the types of molecules found in living things on earth. So what? The same processes are at work throughout the universe to create basic elements and the conditions for various types of molecules to form from them are not earth-special or this solar system special. This has been known for a very very long time. This is completely not news.

    1. Re:idiotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's different in that it's a precursor to RNA if one, say, had water and some sort of comet-crashing event. But what are the odds of having that with a bunch of the compounds floating around on comets, right?.

        Read the FA, guy

    2. Re:idiotic by Livius · · Score: 1

      Past a certain complexity, it would be interesting and noteworthy, but merely 'organic' is going to include almost everything if the concentration of carbon is high enough.

    3. Re:idiotic by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      The fact that we can detect organic molecules circling a star (not our Sun) is amazing. As our detection capabilities improve, I wonder how long until we detect complex organic molecules or life itself.

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    4. Re:idiotic by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      This has been known for a very very long time. This is completely not news.

      Bullshit.

      What the team has seen, however, are the chemical signs of three complex organic molecules in the cyanide family--an astronomical first, Oberg says. Although astronomers have spotted hydrogen cyanide in other star systems, the two more complicated chemical relatives detected in this study have never been seen in a protoplanetary disk.

      While this matches with previous observations and predictions, this is, in fact, some actual new science which confirms stuff,and which certainly is news.

      Know what is idiotic? Dismissing actual new results on the basis that you heard something similar a bunch of years ago.

      What was your scientific breakthrough today?

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  15. No Kidding.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Duh..Of course that stuff is out there. where do you think the life on Earth came from. Bacteria and even multicellular organisms are spread throughout the cosmos and thrive whenever they land on a world with amenable conditions and even in space without needing a planet. Eventually human science might cone to the realization that the cosmos teems with life to a degree which they would never have imagined, and that it's been around since not long after the first huge stars blew up and seeded the universe with the elements needed. Life itself probably formed in molecular clouds in space rather than on planets or moons. Also, the drake equation is garbage. It doesn't take into account the moons of planets, which is where most complex life is to be found. One gas giant, like the super-jupiters which exist in great abundance can have hundreds of moons, many larger than Earth, and if that gas giant is in the habitable zone all those moons are as well. So there are vastly more life supporting worlds than the Drake equation would be able to account for. Also, the habitable zone isn't as important as you'd think since many worlds, if not most, that support life, are oceans under a thick layer of ice, like many moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Those worlds don't depend on the sun and can continue long after the sun has died. The energy source is good old gravity..the most important force in the universe.

    1. Re:No Kidding.. by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      No, we thus far have not one shred of evidence for life on any world but Earth, nor have organic substances any more complicated than isopropyl cyanide been detected in interstellar space

  16. No sir. Not idiotic. by mmell · · Score: 2

    I'll grant you - it's not unlike "We've confirmed what most people might assume, that similar circumstances lead to similar results", but this lets us start discarding that word 'assume'. Also, please consider: if similar chemistries evolve due to similar conditions, it seems likely to me that we will find life as we know it. We won't have to waste time looking for Andromeda particles or talking to rocks looking for silicon-based life or even negotiating with the Tholiads or the friggin' LED's of Zetar, it'll be life that looks (more or less) familiar.

  17. How close to life is this? by kazekirifx · · Score: 2

    Astronomers have detected chemical precursors of building blocks of the components needed to construct the conditions required to make the environment necessary to gather the required elemental components of life.

  18. Re:Has Rand Paul Announced ( Score: +5, Traumatic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Change positions? Kind of like how Obama and Hillary changed their positions on gay marriage? Wasn't that long ago Obama and Hillary were going on about how the issue of gay marriage was a states rights issue. And it was, of course, Bill Clinton who signed the "Defense of Marriage Act".

    So please do STFU about politicians changing their position, unless you are going to be as hard on the left as you are the right. But you won't because you don't seek truth but just seek to score points like the partisan hack you are.