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Daredevil TV Show Debuts; Early Reviews Positive

An anonymous reader writes: Daredevil has been a staple of Marvel's superhero lineup since the 1960s. But Daredevil's most recent on-screen legacy was a terrible film in 2003 starring Ben Affleck. Since then, Marvel has gotten a lot better at adapting comics to the big and small screen. Yesterday saw the debut of a new Daredevil television series. It's a Netflix original, which means the whole first season went up at once. Early reviews of the show are quite complimentary. Slate praises the acting, and adds, "Daredevil is a bloody show that also bleeds: It has more interest in human bodies than much recent Marvel fare, and more interest in human beings as well. It's remarkably patient, resisting the urge to tell its viewers everything at once, a restraint largely enabled by the binge-y sprawl of the Netflix format." Ars Technica says the violence can be a bit over-the-top at times, but praises how the choreography and cinematography reflect the main character's blindness. The Verge simply says Daredevil raises the bar for superhero television, even though many new shows have found success recently.

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  1. A BIG thumbs-up so far! by dixonpete · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've seen 3 episodes so far and it's been enough to make me wonder why regular TV is such crap in comparison.

    1. Re:A BIG thumbs-up so far! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, regular TV is shit! What with their Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Sopranos, The Shield, Justified, The Americans, Black Sails, Vikings, Fargo, Game of Thrones, Its Always Sunny in Philidelphia, Halt and Catch Fire, The Leftovers, Walking Dead, and True Detective! Fuck TV and all its shitty shows that are shit!

    2. Re:A BIG thumbs-up so far! by blackraven14250 · · Score: 2

      That's higher than most non-network shows, like Breaking Bad

      I looked up info about this, and it was around $3m per episode in season 4 for BB. Mad Men was somewhere between $2m and $2.5m. $3.3m, as per the Netflix deal, seems on the high end, but not out of the ordinary, especially for a Marvel property rather than a random one-off show. Also to consider is that it's a Netflix show, which AFAIK usually have higher budgets than the Marvel deal (House of Cards is $4.5m, OITNB is just under $4m, Marco Polo was $9m). Netflix almost getting into HBO territory with their spending on shows.

  2. Re:Terrible Film? Why? by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the film is fine

    people feel entitled to dramatic opinions about mediocre topics

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  3. Re:WTF by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    the binge-y sprawl of the Netflix format

    The fucking what, man?

    [Aside: I'll have a pint of what he's been snorting]

    Netflix sometimes releases the entire season of a show all at once, allowing people to download the entire season and binge-watch. Hence "binge-y".

    IIRC, they first started with "House Of Cards" as an experiment, and found that a lot of people liked the ability to watch it all in a weekend, or 2-3 episodes per night for a week, or whatever.

    Having to wait a week to see the next episode allows peoples' interest to wane. Also, for complex plotlines (see: "Lost"), people tend to forget important events that happened weeks prior and have trouble keeping up with the plot. If the event 5 episodes ago was last night (or the night before), people have a better time keeping immersed in the plot.

  4. Re:Gore by slaker · · Score: 3, Informative

    The fight choreography is wonderfully deliberate and brutal. They ramped up the audible component of it as might befit a character with super-human hearing while eschewing the shaky-cam (e.g. Bourne Ultimatum) style and using the excuse of poor lighting. I got a sense that most of the people doing the fighting we actually reacting instead of responding in some programmatic fashion and I very much liked that evidence of injuries sustained remained, even several episodes later.

    I did take exception to the idea that Daredevil said that he did not kill. I saw a lot of things that would result in pretty serious head trauma or internal injuries and I'm thinking not everybody made it to the nearest E.R.

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  5. Re:Agreed, 110% - I liked both films you noted... by SJHillman · · Score: 2

    Most five year olds choose to watch cartoons over live-action movies as well.

  6. Re:Was I watching the same show? by dixonpete · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe you have to be a comic book fan. It's pretty rare that a character you've known for decades comes alive in, what is to me anyway, is a believable portrayal.

  7. Re:WTF by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    Also, for complex plotlines (see: "Lost"), people tend to forget important events that happened weeks prior

    In my day, we had to remember dialog from three years back to appreciate B5. Might be why it got cancelled a few times...

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  8. Piracy by Etherwalk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a pirate, I haven't involuntarily seen a commercial for over 5 years. Much love to the release groups who strip all that out for me. Those guys make TV worth watching.

    Stop it. There's no excuse for piracy of television these days--the free offerings over the internet have gotten too numerous, as have the relatively low-cost online streaming services. If you're paying for an internet connection you have access to lots of media for free. And netflix gives you a pretty big library if you pay for that too.

    1. Re:Piracy by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

      "the free offerings over the internet have gotten too numerous, as have the relatively low-cost online streaming services"

      That may be true for your country, not everyone is so lucky nor treated the same way.

      Yeah, I have no objection to your pirating video in North Korea.

    2. Re:Piracy by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      We have the capability to do better, *there is just no money in it*.

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    3. Re:Piracy by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The GP could be almost anywhere outside the US. Even in Europe and Australia we have crippled versions of Netflix. We get Daredevil because it is a Netflix show, but there is a vast amount of programming you can't get online outside the US. There is satellite/cable but they doube dip (charge you a subscription fee and still show adverts) and don't let you subscribe for just a month or two at a time, it's usually 12 months minimum.

      Say you live in the UK and want to watch Game of Thrones. You choice is to pay hundreds of pounds and see adverts with Sky or Virgin Media, wait for box sets and not be able to join in the conversations at work or on social media, or pirate. I'm not saying piracy is morally justified or anything, only that I can understand why people do it. The alternatives suck.

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    4. Re:Piracy by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

      I often wonder how someone can be so wrong, but still feel so authoritative on a subject as to leave a comment like yours.

      Then, you say there's plenty of free stuff - but then undermine your point by mentioning netflix, which isn't free. Is there so much free stuff we don't need to pirate, or do not need to pirate because Netflix is supposed to provide us everything? Because *that's* a huge joke. I get stuff via torrent that you just can't get other ways.

      Read the comment without having prejudged the answer.

      There is plenty of free stuff--hulu, ctv, the major networks, etc...

      But there are also low cost sources of large quantities of online entertainment, such as Netflix.

      The one point doesn't undermine the other--it provides an additional reason why piracy is not longer reasonable.

      There is stuff you can get via torrent you can't get other ways. That doesn't mean you need to get that stuff. As more stuff becomes available for free or at low-cost, the legitimate arguments for piracy begin to evaporate. It's actually okay to skip a season of Game of Thrones every now and then.

  9. Re:Terrible Film? Why? by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you can level such nitpicking at any movie ever

    pick your favorite movie in your mind

    i can level a dozen same whiny self-important "devastating" opinions at it

    the simple fact is that there are billion ok movies, and a few that are truly awful, mostly on technical terms. that's it. the movies you and i might call great is simply trendy subjectivity that will come and go over time

    your opinion simply is not as important nor authoritative as you imagine it is. that's just a blind ego talking

    but people like to come in as some sort of self-imagined heavy authority on the quality of movies or lack thereof because it fills them with a sense of importance missing from mediocre lives

    watch movies, enjoy them

    no one gives a fuck about your common shallow opinions, and they carry no weight

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