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Denver TSA Screeners Manipulated System In Order To Grope Men's Genitals

McGruber writes: The CBS affiliate in Denver reports: "Two Transportation Security Administration screeners at Denver International Airport have been fired after they were discovered manipulating passenger screening systems to allow a male TSA employee to fondle the genital areas of attractive male passengers." According to law enforcement reports obtained during the CBS4 investigation, a male TSA screener told a female colleague in 2014 that he "gropes" male passengers who come through the screening area at DIA. "He related that when a male he finds attractive comes to be screened by the scanning machine he will alert another TSA screener to indicate to the scanning computer that the party being screened is a female. When the screener does this, the scanning machine will indicate an anomaly in the genital area and this allows (the male TSA screener) to conduct a pat-down search of that area." Although the TSA learned of the accusation on Nov. 18, 2014 via an anonymous tip from one of the agency's own employees, reports show that it would be nearly three months before anything was done."

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  1. GOP Flash Cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we spin this as the TSA allowing for homosexual acts (especially on God-fearing straight folk!), could we use this to convince the GOP to support shutting it down? Toss in some terms like "limited government" if necessary.

    1. Re:GOP Flash Cards by Adriax · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, even if the gropers were french muslim abortion doctors with middle eastern ties and we spin it as a full infiltration, they wouldn't dare shut down their security theater. Just replace the actors from the middle down and parade it as a victory against terrorism.

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    2. Re:GOP Flash Cards by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If we spin this as the TSA allowing for homosexual acts (especially on God-fearing straight folk!), could we use this to convince the GOP to support shutting it down? Toss in some terms like "limited government" if necessary.

      Sadly, no.

      Cognitive dissonance is very powerful and this sounds like a textbook case of "no true scotsman".

      He wasn't a TSA agent, the brave defenders of 'Murica because no true TSA agent would do such a thing.

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    3. Re:GOP Flash Cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Issue all passengers knives. It just isn't very safe to fire a gun inside an airliner for any reason. Terrorists could just try to provoke a shooting match. But if every passenger had a knife, it would be very hard for a terrorist with a gun to do anything without getting mob stabbed.

  2. Comfort by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not at all comfortable with the current screening procedure madness, but I'm far more comfortable when the TSA agent groping me is just as uncomfortable with the situation as I am. When they're taking pleasure in it, it's a good indication that the system has let us down.

    1. Re:Comfort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pedophiles go into the priesthood for access to young boys. Gropers go into TSA for similar reasons. I can't really think of any quality reason anyone would choose TSA screening as a career.

    2. Re:Comfort by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paycheck?

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    3. Re:Comfort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      with how mcdonalds and its franchisees promote from within, he must have been a pretty shitty employee to not have worked up to a store manager, or at least assistant manager, in 9 years.. he should be thankful they let him keep flipping burgers that long.

  3. 3 months? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That strikes me as pretty fast for an organization that size.

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    1. Re:3 months? by ericlondaits · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But he was fired, not put in jail... shouldn't he be charged?

      If I grope an unwilling party's genitals I get charged... someone abusing the power given by the government to do it is worse.

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  4. Re:It is unclear... by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is unclear is why the TSA still exist.

    Because, in the unlikely event of another terrorist attack on a plane, any politicians voted to eliminate the TSA will be blamed. Modern politicians spend all this time and effort trying to get elected, then they're too scared to do anything where they can't pass the buck.

  5. I, for one, am shocked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Giving people legal authority to see and touch both men and women's private areas attracts creeps to the job? Never would have guessed.

  6. Re:Does it work in reverse? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not that, but my wife once had an undergarment trigger the TSA sensors as an "anomaly" and had to be subjected to the full pat down routine. By a female employee who, I hope, wasn't just doing this because she found my wife attractive. This likely wouldn't let a male TSA agent pat down a female in the line as I believe they have rules in place that only the same-sex individual must do the pat down. Then again, this IS the TSA we're talking about, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was abused as well. They have been caught sending attractive females through the "naked scanner" and ogling the resulting images.

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  7. Male sexual assualt is real by Murdoch5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is why we can't ignore male sexual violence, it's a real issue and we need to look at just as hard as female assaults.

  8. Re:Security checks in 199o's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many, MANY years ago, since you type "oh" for "zero". In both the subject, and (the different) body.

  9. Re:Does it work in reverse? by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You gotta love the cognitive dissonance. We are perfectly 'okay' (societally) with same gender patdowns because you know that can't be 'sexual' or exploitative, yet we no longer consider homosexuality to be deviant behavior to the point we largely support marriage equality.

    My take on its government should not be allowed to have it both ways. You either don't believe in homosexuality as a normal state, or you can't support TSA patdowns. Sexual assault is sexual assault no matter what gender or sex the other persona happens to be unless its invited. And the TSA procedure meets every definition for assault. Do you feel free to turn around and leave if you are selected for an enhanced search? I don't I'd be considerably afraid that if I they suggested they needed to do a patdown and I responded "no thanks I'll just head back to my car" that I would find myself detained shortly their after.

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  10. Because government by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like it is sexual assault.

    It is. Unambiguously.

    Why didn't the TSA refer this to law enforcement?

    Because TSA is law enforcement or at least thinks they are.

  11. no need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Every single GOP person I know were either anti-TSA from the beginning or turned anti-TSA when they were groping nuns and little children while waiving muslims in full Haaj regalia through (so as not to be accused of racism). It was only the big-government whacko GOPers in Washington who were big supporters of yet another centralized government agency. TSA should NEVER have been created; In a true free-market system, American Airlines and Boeing would have been sued into the dirt after 9-11 for allowing their planes to be used as weapons - The taxpayers were the injured party, NOT the irresponsible airlines who got a multi-billion dollar bail-out. By making TSA governmental, it was guaranteed to be political (and therefore politically-correct) by virtue of being controlled by gutless politicians. Had the airlines been forced to be accountable, they'd each be forced to come up with their own programs to produce ACTUAL safety.

    The TSA is NOT about security at all; it's "Security Theater". The agency exists to simultaneously fool the public into thinking they are safe, shift blame for any future failures off of the giant corporations who build and operate the planes (and bribe, errr contribut to the campaigns of, politicians) and bulk-up the number of unionized government employees who will vote Democrat in all elections. Note: When the Bush admin pushed to create the TSA they wanted it no be non-government, but the Democrats wanted it to be governmental - they compromised Bush agreed to make it government and Senate Leader Reid (D-NV) and House Speaker Pelosi (D-CA) agreed it could never unionize. As soon as Obama became President, Reid, Pelosi, and Obama Unionized the TSA. Yet another reason so many GOP-ers do not trust any deals with Democrats.

    1. Re:no need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All this TSA business was instituted primarily to make Michael Chertoff rich. And it worked marvelously.

      The enhanced pat downs were instituted largely as a punishment for people opting out. This was necessary, since too many opt-outs would result in fewer purchases of the body scanners (which is where Chertoff makes his money).

      There was a natural alliance between this and the enhanced intelligence gathering and tracking that the government wants to do on everyone anyway, so that just worked out as a side benefit.

      Incidentally, the people who benefit most from this don't have to put up with it themselves, so it will require a hell of a lot of public outrage to ever get it shut down.

  12. Re:I'll take it by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, if it was a chick doing this groping to me, fine.

    For the dude doing it...what's the penalty again for punching out a TSA idiot?

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  13. Re:It is unclear... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or because as long as people are OK with that bit of intrusiveness every time they travel, they'll be more accepting of other restrictions on their freedom as well.

  14. Re:Been through Denver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    that's too dumb to respond to.
    yeah... sexually molest innocent muslim women to end terrorism. you should run for president.

  15. Re:Been through Denver by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish - and I know this would never 'fly' - that we would make their lives as uncomfortable as ours - or even more so. they are really offended when their women are even looked at by westerners. what I would love to see is that we go OUT OF OUR WAY to fondle and embarass all the muslim women - ALL OF THEM - that enter or leave any western country. yes, its payback and its meant to inflict a return feeling for all that have 'done' for us.

    WHAAA???!? This is modded "insightful"?

    the fact that we let them ruin our way of life - and they got away with it - means that they are boldened to keep doing this crap to us.

    What the heck? Who is doing this to whom? We are doing it to ourselves. Who does the TSA work for? Our government.

    We did this to ourselves, and for nothing. Is there any evidence whatsoever that the TSA has prevented ANY terrorist attacks since it was instituted? NO.

    There are countries that have experienced REAL terrorism. Places where random buses get blown up periodically, or random bombs go off in the downtown area of a city -- from a coordinated effort of terrorists. (See, for example, situations in Israel/Palestine, or England when the IRA was particularly active.)

    We have NOTHING like that. If there were any significant number of Muslim terrorists out there just dying to "ruin our way of life," they could easily do so -- bomb some malls, bomb public transport, heck -- shoot up an area right outside the security zone at an airport. Remember after 9/11 when people were actually freaked out about such things? I remember people afraid to go to malls -- afraid that someone would put some chemicals or poison into the water supply, etc., etc.

    How much of that happened? Nothing really. We just forgot about it. We didn't really make "security" around any of these things any better. Hell, we can't even keep our weapons-grade uranium safe with any real security.

    We're doing nothing for any number of major terrorist targets, and the terrorists are doing nothing to attack them. Therefore, the only reasonable conclusion is there aren't a significant number of real terrorists. (Well, except for the retirees that the FBI entraps by hanging out with them at Waffle House for months and convincing them they should attempt a terrorist act...)

    So, given that it's clear we've done this whole TSA thing TO OURSELVES, why exactly is it that you want to lash out at Muslims everywhere, as if they were ALL represented by a handful of folks who plotted 9/11??

    if we do a tit-for-tat (as childish as that might initially seem) then maybe the escalations and wars would come to a stand-still.

    "Tit-for-tat" implies that there's some sort of actual targeting of people who did something. If a red-headed guy goes on a murder spree in a subway, and afterward the police start just randomly searching and beating the crap out of people on the subway to instill fear and dissuade anyone from attempting a similar act, your response is, "Let's go and starting beating the crap out of all redheads everywhere! That's tit-for-tat, and it will show them!"

    (Don't get me wrong here -- I know the analogy is not exact, and there are militant Muslim extremist groups, whereas I don't know if there are militant redhead groups... but hopefully my point is clear. The ones doing the bad stuff at the TSA are our own fault, and saying we should use them to harass others because we allow them to harass us is one of the stupidest things I've seen modded up on Slashdot, and that's saying something....)

  16. Re:Pretty safe bet this happens everywhere. by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps the fact that the victim can't be certain how the standard procedure differs from an unlawful sexual assault should tell us something...

  17. Re:Quick! Put the same gov't in charge of health c by mean+pun · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Err, health care insurance. In fact, they are already for a group of people through medicare, and that seems to work well.

  18. Re:I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >> For the dude doing it...what's the penalty again for punching out a TSA idiot?
    Gitmo?

    Seriously folks - you may have a lovely country, but this sh!t keeps my tourist dollar in my bank and unspent.

  19. Re:I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you should learn what "makes a pass"means. If a person comes up and tells you that you are "cute", that is a pass. If you feel decking someone for verbal communication, maybe you should get into yoga and calm the fork down.

    As for the physical groping, nobody should do that regardless, so I'm on board with your assessment.