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Denver TSA Screeners Manipulated System In Order To Grope Men's Genitals

McGruber writes: The CBS affiliate in Denver reports: "Two Transportation Security Administration screeners at Denver International Airport have been fired after they were discovered manipulating passenger screening systems to allow a male TSA employee to fondle the genital areas of attractive male passengers." According to law enforcement reports obtained during the CBS4 investigation, a male TSA screener told a female colleague in 2014 that he "gropes" male passengers who come through the screening area at DIA. "He related that when a male he finds attractive comes to be screened by the scanning machine he will alert another TSA screener to indicate to the scanning computer that the party being screened is a female. When the screener does this, the scanning machine will indicate an anomaly in the genital area and this allows (the male TSA screener) to conduct a pat-down search of that area." Although the TSA learned of the accusation on Nov. 18, 2014 via an anonymous tip from one of the agency's own employees, reports show that it would be nearly three months before anything was done."

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  1. I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Honestly, I wouldn't have any problem with the TSA if I knew for certain that I would have my penis vigorously groped every time I travel...

    It's the uncertainty that kills me.. Will I have to rub one out in the bathroom, or can I get a head start as I pass through security??

    1. Re:I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, if it was a chick doing this groping to me, fine.

      For the dude doing it...what's the penalty again for punching out a TSA idiot?

      Guantanamo.

    2. Re:I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >> For the dude doing it...what's the penalty again for punching out a TSA idiot?
      Gitmo?

      Seriously folks - you may have a lovely country, but this sh!t keeps my tourist dollar in my bank and unspent.

    3. Re:I'll take it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, if it was a chick doing this groping to me, fine.

      For the dude doing it...what's the penalty again for punching out a TSA idiot?

      Just close your eyes and think "My what large hands she has".

  2. GOP Flash Cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we spin this as the TSA allowing for homosexual acts (especially on God-fearing straight folk!), could we use this to convince the GOP to support shutting it down? Toss in some terms like "limited government" if necessary.

    1. Re:GOP Flash Cards by Adriax · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, even if the gropers were french muslim abortion doctors with middle eastern ties and we spin it as a full infiltration, they wouldn't dare shut down their security theater. Just replace the actors from the middle down and parade it as a victory against terrorism.

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    2. Re:GOP Flash Cards by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If we spin this as the TSA allowing for homosexual acts (especially on God-fearing straight folk!), could we use this to convince the GOP to support shutting it down? Toss in some terms like "limited government" if necessary.

      Sadly, no.

      Cognitive dissonance is very powerful and this sounds like a textbook case of "no true scotsman".

      He wasn't a TSA agent, the brave defenders of 'Murica because no true TSA agent would do such a thing.

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  3. Comfort by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not at all comfortable with the current screening procedure madness, but I'm far more comfortable when the TSA agent groping me is just as uncomfortable with the situation as I am. When they're taking pleasure in it, it's a good indication that the system has let us down.

    1. Re:Comfort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pedophiles go into the priesthood for access to young boys. Gropers go into TSA for similar reasons. I can't really think of any quality reason anyone would choose TSA screening as a career.

    2. Re:Comfort by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paycheck?

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    3. Re:Comfort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      with how mcdonalds and its franchisees promote from within, he must have been a pretty shitty employee to not have worked up to a store manager, or at least assistant manager, in 9 years.. he should be thankful they let him keep flipping burgers that long.

  4. 3 months? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That strikes me as pretty fast for an organization that size.

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    1. Re:3 months? by ericlondaits · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But he was fired, not put in jail... shouldn't he be charged?

      If I grope an unwilling party's genitals I get charged... someone abusing the power given by the government to do it is worse.

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  5. Been through Denver by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    And I've never been groped. Guess I'm not attractive enough. :-(

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    1. Re:Been through Denver by jason.sweet · · Score: 5, Funny

      Either that. Or the scan never picks up your "anomoly".
      Don't sweat it. Denver can be a cold place.

    2. Re:Been through Denver by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

      It was JUNE!

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    3. Re:Been through Denver by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wish - and I know this would never 'fly' - that we would make their lives as uncomfortable as ours - or even more so. they are really offended when their women are even looked at by westerners. what I would love to see is that we go OUT OF OUR WAY to fondle and embarass all the muslim women - ALL OF THEM - that enter or leave any western country. yes, its payback and its meant to inflict a return feeling for all that have 'done' for us.

      WHAAA???!? This is modded "insightful"?

      the fact that we let them ruin our way of life - and they got away with it - means that they are boldened to keep doing this crap to us.

      What the heck? Who is doing this to whom? We are doing it to ourselves. Who does the TSA work for? Our government.

      We did this to ourselves, and for nothing. Is there any evidence whatsoever that the TSA has prevented ANY terrorist attacks since it was instituted? NO.

      There are countries that have experienced REAL terrorism. Places where random buses get blown up periodically, or random bombs go off in the downtown area of a city -- from a coordinated effort of terrorists. (See, for example, situations in Israel/Palestine, or England when the IRA was particularly active.)

      We have NOTHING like that. If there were any significant number of Muslim terrorists out there just dying to "ruin our way of life," they could easily do so -- bomb some malls, bomb public transport, heck -- shoot up an area right outside the security zone at an airport. Remember after 9/11 when people were actually freaked out about such things? I remember people afraid to go to malls -- afraid that someone would put some chemicals or poison into the water supply, etc., etc.

      How much of that happened? Nothing really. We just forgot about it. We didn't really make "security" around any of these things any better. Hell, we can't even keep our weapons-grade uranium safe with any real security.

      We're doing nothing for any number of major terrorist targets, and the terrorists are doing nothing to attack them. Therefore, the only reasonable conclusion is there aren't a significant number of real terrorists. (Well, except for the retirees that the FBI entraps by hanging out with them at Waffle House for months and convincing them they should attempt a terrorist act...)

      So, given that it's clear we've done this whole TSA thing TO OURSELVES, why exactly is it that you want to lash out at Muslims everywhere, as if they were ALL represented by a handful of folks who plotted 9/11??

      if we do a tit-for-tat (as childish as that might initially seem) then maybe the escalations and wars would come to a stand-still.

      "Tit-for-tat" implies that there's some sort of actual targeting of people who did something. If a red-headed guy goes on a murder spree in a subway, and afterward the police start just randomly searching and beating the crap out of people on the subway to instill fear and dissuade anyone from attempting a similar act, your response is, "Let's go and starting beating the crap out of all redheads everywhere! That's tit-for-tat, and it will show them!"

      (Don't get me wrong here -- I know the analogy is not exact, and there are militant Muslim extremist groups, whereas I don't know if there are militant redhead groups... but hopefully my point is clear. The ones doing the bad stuff at the TSA are our own fault, and saying we should use them to harass others because we allow them to harass us is one of the stupidest things I've seen modded up on Slashdot, and that's saying something....)

  6. Re:It is unclear... by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is unclear is why the TSA still exist.

    Because, in the unlikely event of another terrorist attack on a plane, any politicians voted to eliminate the TSA will be blamed. Modern politicians spend all this time and effort trying to get elected, then they're too scared to do anything where they can't pass the buck.

  7. I, for one, am shocked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Giving people legal authority to see and touch both men and women's private areas attracts creeps to the job? Never would have guessed.

  8. Why no charges? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like it is sexual assault.

    If I am hired to set up a security checkpoint in front of a bar, I could do security pat downs without it being sexual. If, on the other hand, I intentionally manipulated the system to pat down attractive bar patrons for my own gratification, I'm pretty sure I would be arrested and end up on some sort of sex offender list.

    Why didn't the TSA refer this to law enforcement?

  9. Re:Does it work in reverse? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not that, but my wife once had an undergarment trigger the TSA sensors as an "anomaly" and had to be subjected to the full pat down routine. By a female employee who, I hope, wasn't just doing this because she found my wife attractive. This likely wouldn't let a male TSA agent pat down a female in the line as I believe they have rules in place that only the same-sex individual must do the pat down. Then again, this IS the TSA we're talking about, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was abused as well. They have been caught sending attractive females through the "naked scanner" and ogling the resulting images.

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  10. Pretty safe bet this happens everywhere. by Noishkel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We've seen a number of stories involving TSA agents being arrested for any number of crimes. Everything from assault, to child pornography, to murder. This shouldn't be a surprise at all. Which is not to say that all TSA agents ARE the scum that they tend to be made out to be. But it's a worrying program.

    In terms of this kind of activities detailed in this story... well hell. I know from talking with a former TSA employee that this sort of thing is VERY common. I've even meet a former TSA agent that not only admits doing this at an airport in California. But he did it aallll the time. And he wasn't the only one doing it.

    1. Re:Pretty safe bet this happens everywhere. by Imagix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well... are the number of murdering TSA agents greater than other professions? However, in this particular case, why aren't the two of them arrested and charged for the sexual assaults? For this, let the courts decide, not the DA. So what if the victim cannot be identified? Convenient that the person who was assaulted wasn't asked for their information. As for "nobody else has complained", the remaining people would have the understanding that this is _supposed_ to be happening. They were theoretically following the lawful commands of the TSA agent. Since it turns out that they were not lawful, then the agent should be arrested for the sexual assault as well as whatever statute covers the agent in exceeding their authority. "Held accountable". Hah. Merely firing them is insufficient.

    2. Re:Pretty safe bet this happens everywhere. by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps the fact that the victim can't be certain how the standard procedure differs from an unlawful sexual assault should tell us something...

  11. Re:Does it work in reverse? by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You gotta love the cognitive dissonance. We are perfectly 'okay' (societally) with same gender patdowns because you know that can't be 'sexual' or exploitative, yet we no longer consider homosexuality to be deviant behavior to the point we largely support marriage equality.

    My take on its government should not be allowed to have it both ways. You either don't believe in homosexuality as a normal state, or you can't support TSA patdowns. Sexual assault is sexual assault no matter what gender or sex the other persona happens to be unless its invited. And the TSA procedure meets every definition for assault. Do you feel free to turn around and leave if you are selected for an enhanced search? I don't I'd be considerably afraid that if I they suggested they needed to do a patdown and I responded "no thanks I'll just head back to my car" that I would find myself detained shortly their after.

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  12. Re:Keeping score by aaron4801 · · Score: 4, Interesting
  13. Because government by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like it is sexual assault.

    It is. Unambiguously.

    Why didn't the TSA refer this to law enforcement?

    Because TSA is law enforcement or at least thinks they are.

  14. Re:Does it work in reverse? by misexistentialist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obvious solution is to neuter all TSA agents.

  15. Re:It is unclear... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or because as long as people are OK with that bit of intrusiveness every time they travel, they'll be more accepting of other restrictions on their freedom as well.

  16. Re:no need by dcollins117 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think on this issue you'll find that high level GOP officials have an unusually wide stance and are willing to reach around the aisle, pointing fingers when necessary in order to come to a consensus. Many are even willing to bend over backwards to be more accommodating.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal/

  17. Re:Does it work in reverse? by mewsenews · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know this is a joke but I was recently reading the wikipedia article about Eunuchs and pretty much at every point in history we have had jobs that we've considered castration as a de facto requirement - harem manager, treble singer, etc.

  18. Oblig by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny
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  19. Re:no need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All this TSA business was instituted primarily to make Michael Chertoff rich. And it worked marvelously.

    The enhanced pat downs were instituted largely as a punishment for people opting out. This was necessary, since too many opt-outs would result in fewer purchases of the body scanners (which is where Chertoff makes his money).

    There was a natural alliance between this and the enhanced intelligence gathering and tracking that the government wants to do on everyone anyway, so that just worked out as a side benefit.

    Incidentally, the people who benefit most from this don't have to put up with it themselves, so it will require a hell of a lot of public outrage to ever get it shut down.