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AMD Withdraws From High-Density Server Business
An anonymous reader sends word that AMD has pulled out of the market for high-density servers. "AMD has pulled out of the market for high-density servers, reversing a strategy it embarked on three years ago with its acquisition of SeaMicro. AMD delivered the news Thursday as it announced financial results for the quarter. Its revenue slumped 26 percent from this time last year to $1.03 billion, and its net loss increased to $180 million, the company said. AMD paid $334 million to buy SeaMicro, which developed a new type of high-density server aimed at large-scale cloud and Internet service providers."
If you are like sadly many others going by the benchmarks please note that even Intel admits they rigged the benchmarks and when you use actual programs instead of the rigged benchmarks? You'll find that AMD chips are trading blows with chips that cost 3 times as much while the actual power they use is low enough it would take 18 years for you to come out ahead on power savings. Sorry for two of the links being from one site but Tek Syndicate is one of the few hardware sites that isn't getting the majority of their ad revenue from Intel.
If anybody still doubts that the US DoJ is nothing but a toothless joke? Intel should be all the proof you need. Here you have a company that admits flat out they are rigging the tests every major website uses to judge performance, was allowed to pay off its rival after several CEOs got on the stand and admitted Intel was bribing their companies, used their leverage in one market (CPUs) to wipe out a competitor in another market (chipsets) while memo were leaked talking about how they were gonna "cut their throats" and they STILL didn't get fucking busted? If the MSFT antitrust were to happen today I have no doubt Gates could walk right into the deposition room and take a big dump on the table as his response and the DoJ would be lining up to offer him TP!
So don't buy the bullshit, or "tests" done by sites where the majority of their advertising budget is filled by Intel, get an AMD and see for yourself. Here in the shop I've had just about every Intel and AMD chip come through the door and on everything but the over $600 chips? You are seeing MAYBE mid single digits difference, with everything under $400 a chip trading blows back and forth....except of course on price, where it will cost on average double to trade blows with the AMD chip. Sadly the rigging doesn't just extend to benches though, you go to sites like Tom's and Anand's and you'll see writer admit that most of the new games coming down the pipe require quad cores to even play....and then push an Intel Pentium dual core over even a hexacore in the same price bracket. Of course when you turn off adblock you'll see why, as the page is covered with ads for Intel boards and chips. Never in all my years in computing have I ever seen one company be so damned blatant in their market manipulation and not even get so much as a slap on the wrist for it, I only hope the EU investigation has more teeth and hits them with enough fines that Intel will finally have to play on a level field which they have not done since the day the P4 was released!
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...we need AMD. Because if AMD goes away, Intel has zero competitors in the x86/64 market. Most people here probably aren't old enough to remember that CPU's used to cost an arm-and-a-leg in margins, and then when a bunch of hot shots like the 6502 came out, prices dropped literally over night. How could they drop so much? Because it was nothing but margin to begin with.
If AMD goes the way of the dodo bird, so do our cheap processors. Moreover, we'll likely lose a great deal of software freedom as what Intel says becomes law across the whole board. UEFI and TPM? Disneyland to what Intel can demand under the guise of "security" from every future computer.
They were even outright leaders for a while, but failed to capitalise on that.
Wow, that is the understatement of the century. AMD at one point did decide not to be a "mini Intel" and become a technology leader. Do you realize that while AMD had a far superior product for several years, Intel threw money (and threats - as was proved) to every retailer/integrator/etc out there to not carry AMD (and did other "interesting" things such as rig their industry standard compilers etc). Intel was allowed to use strong-arm tactics that "scream" anti-trust and after many years an almost bankrupt AMD was allowed to accept a small payment and Intel went scot-free.
If you have a product that is far ahead of the competition, you should be allowed to capitalize on that. If you are illegally not allowed by thepowerful players, there should be some sort of protection for that, before it is too late. But I guess the DoJ was sleeping at the wheel...
You have to remember, the Athlon was getting a firm lead on the P3 and Intel got out the P4 as a "response". The P4, the processor now universally known as the biggest "dog" by virtually everyone (even in its final and much, much improved incarnations), eventually abandoned even by intel to go back to a saner P3-derived architecture, was actually welcomed with laurels, both by (most of) the press and the integrators. AMD put all this R&D effort and they got nothing out of it, instead the were bleeding money for years, while Intel was making money with the current situation being a very weak AMD next to a behemoth. It is too bad for us, because the sole reason Intel CPUs are affordable is AMD - I won't remind you how much Intel charged per-CPU before there was competition. The sole reason Intel CPUs are this fast (or even that their consumer products are 64bit) is AMD. I only hope in some miracle for AMD to survive and get some competition going, otherwise there will be no-one left to keep Intel in check and consumers will pay for it...
So, yeah, the greatest industrial robbery of all time has been largely forgotten. AMD just "failed to capitalize", they were "obsessed with being a mini Intel"...
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what are you guys using that even see the difference between this CPUs? I use several computers with different CPUs (cores, speed and brands) and i see almost no difference at all. Most systems are idle, waiting for user input or HD access. Of course i'm ignoring video editing and some small set of very cpu hungry single thread apps, but most people don't use then anyway. Most people will see get better performance by buying a SSD, not cpu
I think this is just a matter of "who size is bigger", not real performance differences.
What i like in AMD cpus is they have all the features, not bullshit capped cpus like intel cpus, where they remove features from lower cpus to force you to buy higher (and much expensive) ones
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Well, try the Phoronix benchmarks then.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...
In this one the FX8350 is basically comparable to the i7 3770, the contemporary intel processor. Sometimes a fair bit faster sometimes a fair bit slower, on average about the same.
Now pull up a benchmark from the other sites from a similar era. You'll find the AMD processot getting stomped all over. Given phoronix used open source software and GCC, I'm somewhat more inclined to trust it.
It also matches my experience that certain software is easily as fast on AMD as Intel, but then agan I run Linux too.
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