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DIA Polygraph Countermeasure Case Files Leaked
George Maschke writes AntiPolygraph.org (of which I am a co-founder) has published a set of leaked Defense Intelligence Agency polygraph countermeasure case files along with a case-by-case analysis. The case files, which include polygraph charts and the exact questions used, suggest that the only people being "caught" trying to beat the polygraph are those using crude, unsophisticated methods that anyone who actually understood polygraph procedure and effective countermeasures (like, say, a real spy, saboteur, or terrorist) would ever use. AntiPolygraph.org has previously published polygraph community training materials on countermeasures that indicate they lack the ability to detect countermeasures like those described in our free book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector (PDF) or in former police polygraph examiner Doug Williams' manual, How to Sting the Polygraph. Williams, who was indicted last year after teaching undercover federal agents how to pass a polygraph, is scheduled to stand trial on May 12 in Oklahoma City.
A clear violation of 1st Amendment rights. Ah, well... It's what people want
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The case files [...] suggest that the only people being "caught" trying to beat the polygraph are those using crude, unsophisticated methods that anyone who actually understood polygraph procedure and effective countermeasures [...] would ever use.
Did you mean "never use"?
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Hope they don't catch me cheating the magic crystal ball. They might send the leprechauns after me.
Then why is someone on trial for teaching how to beat them? Makes no sense, unless they are beatable, in which case they are only security by obscurity - aka useless against a real threat.
Is it seems like whenever someone gets polygraph results that support their assertions they are off and shouting how the polygraph is an inflatable and irrefutable source of proof. Change that scenario slightly to a polygraph result that is either inconclusive or counter to their assertions and the same people will decry the polygraph as fallible and incapable of either proving or disproving anything. So which is it?
The bottom line is some people couldn't pass a polygraph to save their lives while others couldn't fail one if they tried and if anyone can learn to beat the machine then it really isn't a great baseline for making any decision.
Describing my training as teaching "countermeasures" so liars can pass the polygraph "test" is the same thing as describing the polygraph as a "lie detector"! Both descriptions are PURE, UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT! The word "countermeasures" can only be used to describe polygraph chart manipulation by the subject of a polygraph "test" when two conditions are met: 1) The polygraph "test" must be proven to be 100% accurate and reliable as a "lie detector", and 2) the person is attempting to deliberately lie. There is never a case where BOTH of these conditions are met. In other words, you could only claim "countermeasures" are being used to thwart the polygraph operator's ability to detect deception IF the polygraph is able to detect deception accurately 100% of the time and that that deception would be detected were it not for the use of "countermeasures" by a person intent on being deceptive. But, since many people know that just telling the truth only works half the time - i.e. the US Supreme Court, and the NAS report, among others, saying it is no more accurate than the toss of a coin - then a prudent person would try to mitigate the very strong probability of being falsely branded as a liar by learning how to produce a "truthful" chart. That would not be using "countermeasures" - that would be using common sense!
Why do polygraph operators tell people not to research the polygraph before they take their test? It is very simple - the only way they can intimidate people with the polygraph is to keep them ignorant about how it works. When polygraph operators say I teach people "countermeasures" in order for them to "beat the test". I simply say, that's bullshit, because polygraph operators routinely call truthful people liars - and my technique is the only way for honest, truthful people to protect themselves from being falsely accused of lying. Go to the MEDIA page and watch the CBS 60 MINUTES investigative report I helped to produce and see the proof yourself - three out of three polygraph operators called three different truthful people liars on a crime that never even happened! You may also enjoy watching me prove THE LIE DETECTOR IS BULLSHIT on Showtime's PENN & TELLER: BULLSHIT!
So, let me emphasize this - I DON'T TEACH SO-CALLED "COUNTERMEASURES" - I simply teach people how to ALWAYS PASS by knowing how to show a perfect "truthful" polygraph chart! The word "countermeasures" is a word that has been misappropriated by polygraph examiners - it is used to describe what they say is a means to thwart their ability to detect deception. But polygraph operators have always maintained that they can tell when a person is using these so-called "countermeasures". If that is true, how can anyone use them "beat" the test? But, for the sake of argument, let me ask a few more pertinent questions: If people can indeed be taught to use "countermeasures" to "beat the test", wouldn't that prove the polygraph is not a "lie detector"? Does the validity and reliability of the polygraph test demand that the subjects of the test must be ignorant about how it works? If anyone could be taught how to produce and/or prevent a reaction on the polygraph at will, wouldn't that make the whole idea of a "lie detector" a fraud? And wouldn't polygraph operators have to admit their little machine is actually just a sick joke - and that the polygraph instrument is simply a prop used by an interrogator to frighten people into making admissions and confessions? And would it not be prudent for the government to quit wasting money on something that is nothing but a fraud and a con job? The fact is the answer to all these questions is a resounding YES!
Polygraph operators do not want to debate the validity of the polygraph as a "lie detector" because they will lose. And these con men certainly don't want to answer any of the questions I have posed! They know they cannot prove the polygraph is valid and reliable as a "lie detector", and they know they can't justify their actions - so they just say that people who
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Most developed countries do not recognise a polygraph in court, or in science.
And haven't.
For centuries.
I wonder why the US still does.
Just saying.
I was reading the documents and went to download the software to read the polygraph results when I got "your ip has been logged ... software for ..." and I had left my referrer field on! Guess im now a registered dissident. oopsies!
Did you know that if you download, read or otherwise know about where to obtain such materials, it makes you ineligible to apply for any security, law-enforcement or spy agency?
The first question asked on police exams here are "Do you know how to, read, or have in your possession any materials to use against the polygraph test?"
Simply knowing that it exists doesn't make you ineligible, though you might be grilled on it if you answer no, but hesitate because you know that the materials exist.
Lie detectors don't work, all they do is give the prosecution the pretext in calling you a liar, if you are foolish enough to take one. ref.
The polygraph operator is a trained interrogator with an electronic rubber hose. Those with few brains, and much to fear are easily led to believe the polygraph really can detect deception. The polygraph is a placebo device nothing more, the supreme countermeasure to it, is just not believe the BS artist running the device. You only react to things you fear, and the operator has a great stage show, honed to perfection to sell the device as valid, accurate and unbeatable. Beating this machine in truth means beating the operator. Most (polygraph operators) have no defense against those that have the core disbelief the machine works, no matter how much song and dance they do. Worst case is always inconclusive, and IMHO that's a win, as they got nothing of use, from a useless machine. And most post test interrogations are fun to be part of as you know its coming and watching the operator spin out, always puts a smile on my face, and they still come up with nothing. Besides you came into the place without the job, no loss leaving without the job. No job is worth this level of BS.