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Update: No Personhood for Chimps Yet

sciencehabit writes: In a decision that effectively recognizes chimpanzees as legal persons for the first time, a New York judge [Monday] granted a pair of Stony Brook University lab animals the right to have their day in court. The ruling marks the first time in U.S. history that an animal has been covered by a writ of habeus corpus, which typically allows human prisoners to challenge their detention. The judicial action could force the university, which is believed to be holding the chimps, to release the primates, and could sway additional judges to do the same with other research animals. Update: 04/21 21:39 GMT by S : Science has updated their article with news that the court has released an amended order (PDF) with the words "writ of habeas corpus" removed, no longer implying that chimps have legal personhood. The order still allows the litigation to go forward, but we'll have to wait for resolution.

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  1. Habeus Corpus by Drethon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The ruling marks the first time in U.S. history that an animal has been covered by a writ of habeus corpus, which typically allows human prisoners to challenge their detention." While I question some of the treatment of research animals, what exactly did the chimps ask of the court?

    1. Re:Habeus Corpus by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Funny

      While I question some of the treatment of research animals, what exactly did the chimps ask of the court?

      They want people to stop saying we are related to them.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  2. Summary is wrong by jbolden · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary is wrong or at the very least highly misleading. What the judge did was allow the argument for chimp personhood to go forward. In other words the court did not find that chimps were unquestionably merely property. That's much weaker than deciding they are actual persons or legal persons. So yes there was a step forward for Nonhuman Rights Project (NhRP) but nowhere near as big a step as the summary implies.

  3. IRS by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The IRS will now show up and demand that they file their taxes.

  4. Plants are people, too! by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Precisely why are we stopping at recognizing chimps as people, except some sort of gross, obvious anthropocentrism?

    Let's point out that there is an entire class of life forms on this planet that have ALSO gone through millions of years of evolution to reach where they are, and yet they are continually exploited, manipulated, and murdered on behalf of humans whims: that's right, I'm talking about plants.

    There is no question that they live, breed, and grow. There is ample evidence that they feel pain, and even communicate with each other in ways that we barely understand. In many ways, they are far more in touch with their environment than we are, yet we chop vegetables up for food, we decapitate grass by the billions every week because they had the audacity to try to flourish, heck, we RIP THEM UP BY THEIR ROOTS and chemically sterilize them simply for living in the wrong place, dismissing it by calling them "weeds". We annihilate them, and even have the gall to use their corpses for DECORATION.

    We are perpetuating a moral crime, yet nobody can be "bothered" because they don't have fur, a face, or make cute baby pictures.

    #stopthehate
    #lawnmowersaregenocide
    #christmastreeisahatecrime

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    -Styopa
  5. Re:Genius! by Kierthos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nonsense. We can always test new drugs on creatures that absolutely no one cares about.

    Lawyers.

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    Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
  6. What did the chimps ask? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Take your stinking paws off me you damned dirty ape!