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Maglev Train Exceeds 600km/h For World Record
nojayuk writes: An experimental Japanese magnetic levitation train has reached a speed of 603 km/h, breaking the world speed record the same train set last week of 590 km/h. "Central Japan Railway (JR Central), which owns the trains, wants to introduce the service between Tokyo and the central city of Nagoya by 2027.
The 280km journey would take only about 40 minutes, less than half the current time. However, passengers will not get to experience the maglev's record-breaking speeds because the company said its trains will operate at a maximum of 505km/h. In comparison, the fastest operating speed of a Japanese shinkansen, or "bullet train" is is 320km/h. ... Construction costs are estimated at nearly $100bn (£67bn) just for the stretch to Nagoya, with more than 80% of the route expected to go through costly tunnels, AFP news agency reports."
For 5% of the fuel cost? And no security theater? And no $100 taxi ride either way? I'll take it.
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Not if you count the time getting through security. For me, this is one of the biggest comforts of riding a train. I use it for short city to city trips. Show up 20 minutes before scheduled departure to make sure you aren't late, walk on, walk off. Most train stations are in the middle of the city while airports tend to be on the edge of the city, which, depending on where you are going, can often add even more travel time to travelling by air. Also, sometimes minimal travel time isn't the biggest concern.
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Obviously their real goal was to exceed 1 megafurlong per fornight (598.7 km/h).
So, less than one Iraq War then?
Sounds pretty good.
If you're putting 80% through tunnels, I'd wonder if it would almost make sense to make it 100% tunnels and have it in a vacuum. You could reach absurd speeds with such a design, though only if your stops are sufficiently distant (you would want a hub/spoke model).
that's $2 TRILLION for NYC to LA if you extrapolate the costs. and it would still be half the speed of your average airliner
Only if the entire distance is a mountain chain and 600km/h is 3/4 of the speed of a modern airliner (not average, any).
Definitely true. Not a problem to be ignored.
On the other hand, Japan has some of the best public infrastructure in the world. I wonder what the US infrastructure would look like if it could divert 50% of the military spending to infrastructure.
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Japan tends to be more sane about this sort of thing. Heck, they had someone nerve-gas their subway, but it's still the same as before. Here in the USA we'd have politicians demanding mandatory strip-searches on anyone trying to use mass transit faster than you can say TSA.
Trains don't have security theater yet because of the lower perceived potential impact - you can't crash a train into something, for example. This is, of course, an display of lack of imagination. Living near NYC, I am all too familiar with a multitude of bridge and tunnel crossings. Damaging a train - even a local subway train, not a commuter or long-distance route - in the middle of any one of those would cause serious headaches, if not major consequential damage. The real point is that an ultra-speed line operating the Boston-NYC-Washington corridor, or any other section of the major city routes, would become a much more attractive target because of (1) its very newness and shiny-ness, and (2) the higher possibility of doing consequential damage by damaging a train at higher speed. One must assume, then, that some degree of security theater will be imposed on the new rail system.
One must also assume that since the new tracks will have to be totally new, they will have an excuse not to follow existing tracks into the old center city stations along highly expensive rights-of-way, but will instead stop at new stations outside of cities . . . maybe at airports, to take advantage of at least *some* infrastructure. This would be OK if there were better local connections, except in the US many airports have no connections to their cities; the three New York City area airports, for example, despite being in one of the best mass transit centers in the country, were never fully connected to the existing local commuter train lines. And bus service is laughable.
Trains don't have security because it would be trivial to attack them without being on them. Short of acquiring a fighter jet or missile, this is not the case with aircraft. Why bother blowing yourself up on a train when you can do whatever you want to it from anywhere along it's permanent track? Dumbasses demonstrate this tactic all the time by stopping on grade crossings.
As for the NYC airports, only Laguardia is isolated from rail. JFK is linked to Jamaica, which is served by both subway and LIRR. Newark is served by Amtrak and NJ Transit along the NE Corridor line.
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on a trip to Italy, from Rome to Naples (same distance as DC to Philadelphia). It took 1:10 from city center to city center, at a top speed of 295km/h. Amtrak's best trip over the same distance takes 1:40 and costs literally 4-8 times as much. There was no security theater - you could arrive two minutes before departure and run onto the platform and make the train. The seats were comfortable and roomy, and there was free wifi and charging stations at every seat.
I really don't see how anyone could choose driving/flight over this for short-to-medium range intercity trips. Unfortunately it looks like the US will never get a real high speed rail system, because the Republicans think all trains are an evil communist plot, while the Democrats insist on sending every infrastructure project to 10 years of environmental review dependency hell. Meanwhile every other developed country continues to overtake us in quality of life.
Also, Japan is the world leader in high speed rail. They can sell the technology all around the world. The UK's current high-ish speed rail is going to use Japanese trains, for example.
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Live in NYC, and just got back from Tokyo.
The train system in the Northeast is a joke compared to anywhere in Europe and a hilarious joke compared to Japan.
The number of people traveling on all US flights in total is about 1.75 million daily. By contrast, the Tokyo subway system alone carries over 8 million passengers daily, while the greater Tokyo railway system carries 40 million passengers every day, using nearly 900 stations to embark and disembark. The simple fact is that there's no practical way to do any sort of security screening for mass transit on that scale anyhow, even had they wished to.
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Not just city to city, but city center to city center. I can't tell you how frustrated I get when I take a 1.5 hour flight that requires 1.5 hours to get to the departure airport and 1.5 hours to get from the arrival airport to downtown.
Plus, on a train I don't feel like I'm being jammed into a can with a bunch of smelly sardines. Headroom is such a pleasure on a 4 hour trip. And any trip up to 4-5 hours is just as fast or faster done on a train.
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