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Comcast Officially Gives Up On TWC Merger

An anonymous reader writes: Confirming speculation from yesterday, Comcast announced this morning that its attempt to merge with Time Warner Cable has been terminated. The announcement was very brief, but indicated that regulatory pressure was the reason they killed the deal. CEO Brian Roberts said, "Today, we move on. Of course, we would have liked to bring our great products to new cities, but we structured this deal so that if the government didn't agree, we could walk away." The Washington Post adds, "The move by regulators to throw up roadblocks shows that the government has grown concerned about massive media conglomerates bigfooting rivals that are finding success by streaming content over the Internet, analysts said. And after years of approving a wave of mergers in the industry — including that of Comcast and NBC Universal in 2011 — federal officials are taking a new tone, they said."

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  1. Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is truly sad that we will be deprived of Time Warner getting the Customer Service that Comcast is (in)famous for, while at the same time Comcast getting the forward looking understanding of technology that Time Warner, a copyright focused company would have brought to the relationship.

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    1. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Moridineas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I know you're making a joke, but I just thought I should add--I've lived in Comcast, Cox, and Timewarner cable areas. I'm commenting solely on Internet service, but Timewarner has far and away been the best. They're rolling out their ridiculously named "Maxx" service in my area in the next month or two. 25/5 will be upgraded 100/10 or 200/20 (I'm not entirely clear which it is). It's no Google fiber, but it will do until Google rolls out next year... I'm overjoyed the merger is not going through.

    2. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      CEO Brian Roberts said:

      but we structured this deal so that if the government didn't agree, we could walk away

      Translation: "We knew it was sketchy as hell, but hey, might as well give it a try! If they see through the BS, no harm done."

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    3. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would say it was a match made in hell, but even hell would never stoop THAT low.

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    4. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by TWX · · Score: 2

      That part kind of got me too, shouldn't all deals subject to regulatory approval be structured where they could walk away? Wouldn't anything else be outright flaunting in the face of regulation?

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    5. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by pcolaman · · Score: 2

      I don't know about that. I can't intelligently comment on Comcast (as I have the pleasure of saying I've never lived in an area plagued by Comcast) but between Cox and TWC I've always had better internet service through Cox. The speeds are better, the downtimes are extremely rare, and although they claim a data cap, I've gone over it numerous times and have never been penalized for it. I called them on it and they indicated that in reality it's a soft cap and all they do is send a warning email. I suppose if that ever changed I might change my mind, but for now I'd personally recommend Cox.

      Their customer service, on the other hand, leaves a lot to be desired (although I doubt it's as bad as what I've heard of Comcast)

    6. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Rastor · · Score: 5, Informative

      That part kind of got me too, shouldn't all deals subject to regulatory approval be structured where they could walk away? Wouldn't anything else be outright flaunting in the face of regulation?

      What they meant here was that unlike AT&T, they didn't screw up and allow a penalty clause in the agreement if the merger didn't go through.

      T-Mobile made out pretty well in that one.

    7. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by ooshna · · Score: 2

      Where I live Cox already offers 150/20 doesn't throttle and has almost perfect uptime.

    8. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by djrobxx · · Score: 3, Informative

      That part kind of got me too, shouldn't all deals subject to regulatory approval be structured where they could walk away? Wouldn't anything else be outright flaunting in the face of regulation?

      I think he meant walk away without significant impact. For example, the AT&T/T-Mobile deal failure had very serious repercussions for AT&T. From Wikipedia:

      "Deutsche Telekom will receive $3 billion in cash as well as access to $1 billion worth of AT&T-held wireless spectrum."

    9. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Schnapple · · Score: 2

      Time Warner, a copyright focused company would have brought to the relationship.

      It's worth pointing out that Time Warner Cable is, confusingly, not owned by Time Warner Inc. It used to be, of course, and for some reason it still has the name (likely some sort of obligation with an expiration date) but since 2009 it's been an independent company.

      It's resulted in some asinine incidents, like how TWC for a while could not use HBO Go even though Time Warner proper owns HBO.

    10. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Andrio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      CEO Brian Roberts said, "Today, we move on. Of course, we would have liked to bring our great products to new cities..."

      Hey Brian, guess what. You still can! Nobody is stopping you.

      Oh wait, what's that? You don't want to enter a market where there's any competition? I see.

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    11. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by slashmydots · · Score: 2

      I can't even get past the fact that the TWC - AOL merger was labeled the worst in the entire history of the US and then they went for a second indentical title with Comcast. Who the hell is running things at Time Warner?

    12. Re:Comcast and Time Warner, a match made in . . . by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2

      I can't even get past the fact that the TWC - AOL merger was labeled the worst in the entire history of the US and then they went for a second indentical title with Comcast. Who the hell is running things at Time Warner?

      Different people from the ones who are running things at Time Warner Cable, as Time Warner Cable was spun off from Time Warner in 2009. (And Time Warner has nothing to do with Time Magazine; that's now a product of Time Inc.)

  2. Re:Nice to know... by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can buy all of the government some of the time, and some of the government all of the time, but . . .

    it takes a lot of money to buy all of the government, all of the time. So that option is only available to oil companies and major defense contractors.

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  3. Good Business or Empire Building? by userw014 · · Score: 2

    This really suggests that the Comcast/TWC merger had more to do with empire building (or expanding an effective monopoly) than good business.

    Too often, mergers and acquisitions are driven by ego and result in an overall conglomerate that is less efficient.

    1. Re:Good Business or Empire Building? by swb · · Score: 2

      My sense is that it maybe wasn't good business.

      The sectors represented by Comcast (content, cable, internet) all face a ton of pressure from various competition. Amazon and Netflix are actively creating content and building alliances with production companies. Cable is being decimated by streaming and downloadable content (accelerated by excessive cable pricing and poor customer service). Even Internet is showing signs of competition from municipal broadband and other providers -- CenturyLink, who is just about as awful as Comcast from a customer service perspective, just ran fiber optic cable down the poles behind my residential address. The utility guy I quizzed said it was for residential high speed internet.

      The only way this deal made any sense was as a holding action -- give Comcast a bigger local monopoly slice and hope that they can milk the customer base and Netflix, et al, for enough cash that they can keep the wheel turning. Regulatory pressure, net neutrality, etc may even have limited that strategy, at least on the milk-the-content-providers department.

      Mergers are expensive, from the deal costs to the business integration side and I really question whether at the speed their markets are changing that they can maintain customers and margins long enough to profit from the merger.

      It also makes the business a lot bigger, which makes it slower to adapt and innovate, especially when it represents a sector that has traditionally relied on monopoly power and not innovation. Being a bigger dinosaur didn't help the dinosaurs.

    2. Re:Good Business or Empire Building? by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      This really suggests that the Comcast/TWC merger had more to do with empire building (or expanding an effective monopoly) than good business.

      Too often, mergers and acquisitions are driven by ego and result in an overall conglomerate that is less efficient.

      Mergers are always done as a way to create a bit of chaos and negotiation opportunities so that CEOs and top shareholders can pocket a bit of the wealth they control, but isn't theirs.

  4. Re:The Government Should Continue Investigating by BVis · · Score: 5, Funny

    You want a big company to actually do what it promised it will do? Why do you hate America?

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  5. Re:Officially Celebrating by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

    anyone else?

    Everyone else

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  6. the original release was far less appropriate by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ceo Roberts: take a message! "Today, we move on. The heralding of the 6th star of ocorium and the death of all that grows to chew the cud as the mighty beast arises has been circumvented. The runes of pestilence have not siphoned the blood of the babe, as was foretold in our prophetic lore of bundling. Today, we stand apart, our hellmouths never to entwine and form a new dead god. Comcast and Time warner will never be able to take our great products to new cities into which wrack and desolation shall grind the bones of the damned to dust, and succor a distant memory of a world once living. The government has seen fit to meddle in that which they can never understand, to oppose the will of Baal our dark lord and in so doing unlock the very amulet that is the dawn of their obliteration. We structured this amalgamation, or as you laughably know it as "the deal" in a pact of dark blood, an ichor stronger than christs own bleached bones, in that it may be transmutated and reformed should such blasphemous interference take place. Today, we walk this earth upon damned hooves of..."
    PR Executive: ....o...okay....so im just going to trim this up for tomorrows soundbyte o-on....on CNN, is that alri-
    CEO Roberts: Yes it must be hewn into a frame that fits the skull of a black ram to be delivered upon the masses as per the divination
    PR Executive: uh...im thinking...8x11
    CEO Roberts: Yes. use the eights of eleven to elucidate our will to the sheep. Dorris in accounting has a spare ream i believe.

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  7. Re:Nice to know... by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 2

    It's nice to know that money can't always buy government representatives all the time.

    Too many people hated Concast for this to work. Had it gone through, well.... I'm fairly certain there would have been a black hole knocked off course or something somewhere :-)

    Honestly they've simply pissed off way to many people. They have a serious PR issue which has lasted for years and they were arrogant enough to believe it wasn't going to prevent this from happening.

    Personally I'm pleased and hope for more (not less) competition in the Industry.

    Yeah I know. That's a tough wish. maybe I'll go find a Buddha belly and rub it for good luck :D

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  8. Re:Nice to know... by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's nice to know that money can't always buy government representatives all the time.

    Just give them a little more time.

    2017 headline: Time-Warner/Comcast merger approved by a last-minute, late night amendment to the Veterans Administration funding bill.

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  9. Re:The Government Should Continue Investigating by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unless Comcast acquired NBC/Universal's property, but not the company itself (like a bankruptcy asset purchase) then I don't see them getting out of the NBC obligations. When a company purchases another company outright it keeps those obligations. One of the big banks that absorbed one of the big mortgage lenders still had to deal with billions of dollars in fines from that mortgage lender if I'm remembering correctly, and if the bankers couldn't get out of it, a few media moguls sure as hell aren't going to.

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  10. That was an incomplete quote by Minwee · · Score: 2

    "Of course, we would have liked to bring our great products to new cities, but we structured this deal so that if the government didn't agree, we could walk away"

    "...and besides, fuck you."

  11. Re:Officially Celebrating by SebNukem · · Score: 2

    Celebrating here! With One More Time by Daft Punk from you tube no less! Once it's done buffering that is!

  12. Re:Oh boo hoo! by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

    And before someone comes along telling me how it's all the fault of local governments that we have these monopolies, that's simply not true. The reason these local monopolies exist, is that for decades the cable operators required these exclusivity agreements from the local governments as a condition of even serving their municipal area. It was not that the local governments decided to force these monopolies upon the cable companies against their will.

  13. Re:Officially Celebrating by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

    NBC Universal, Time Warner (not to be confused with TWC, a different company), ABC/Disney, CBS/Viacom, Fox...

    Don't kid yourself as to why the regulators were tough on this one...

    no NBC Universal is owned by Comcast

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  14. Comcast is being Investigated by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2

    Comcast are being investigated. One of the conditions of the NBC Universal / Comcast deal was that HULU would remain independent from Comcast oversight. The WSJ (IIRC) reported that Comcast was directly involved in a meeting between high-level execs when HULU was being considered for sale. Comcast convinced the execs in question not to sell.

  15. Alternatively... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2

    Today, we move on. Of course, we would have liked to bring our great products to new cities, but it turned out we don't actually have any. This took us by surprise but a quick poll among our executive staff came to the result that nobody actually knows how we make money or why we're still in business. Money comes in, certainly, and from what I could gather some of it is government money so we seem to be providing some kind of service, I guess. And some of it to the government, it seems. But the exact nature of this service remains a mystery.

    Look, I only wanted to merge with Time Warner Cable because the guys over there seem to know what kind of business they're in and I figured it could be a learning experience. Now that that plan has been kiboshed, could anyone tell me what it is that we actually do? I heard some speculation that we do something with the internet but from what I can tell we don't have anything resembling a broadband infrastructure so that can't be it. We do have call centers but when I called one they didn't know anything about the internet, either. Perhaps we're some kind of telemarketing outfit?

    Seriously, if anyone has an idea what our business plan is, please drop me a line at ceo@comca.st.

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  16. Re:Nice to know... by ShaunC · · Score: 2

    And Google, And Apple, And ...

    Neither Apple nor Google have made enough payments yet; the FBI director is still loudly accusing them of supporting terrorists and pedophiles.

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  17. Bring your products to new cities by nytes · · Score: 2

    Dear Comcast:

    I know this is hard to figure out, but I found a map of areas that you could bring your products to.

    Comcast and Time Warner in 1 Map

    You can start by wiring those areas that are blue, then proceed into the areas that are white.

    No need to thank me.

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