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Google Executive Dan Fredinburg Among Victims of Everest Avalanche

alphadogg writes: Dan Fredinburg, privacy director for the company's Google X team, and an engineer who worked on many of Google's most exciting projects during his 8 years with the company, died over the weekend in an avalanche on Mount Everest. The 33-year-old worked on projects such as Google Loon, the company's balloon-based Internet access effort and self-driving car. He also was involved in Google Street View Everest, leading expeditions to gather imagery of the Khumbu region around Mt. Everest. Fredinburg's career began in a much less glamorous fashion as a "dock rat" and as a farm hand in Arkansas.

164 comments

  1. That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    That's too bad. Why is this on slashdot?

    1. Re:That's too bad by EmeraldBot · · Score: 1

      That's too bad. Why is this on slashdot?

      Does every story have to be a political trollfest? Can't we have some actual tech related news, for once?

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    2. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Go away, no one likes you.

    3. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's too bad. Why is this on slashdot?

      Google is a company that does a few things with internet technology. Here's their website if you're interested in checking them out: http://www.google.com

    4. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does every story have to be a political trollfest? Can't we have some actual tech related news, for once?

      Yes, when politicians stop regulating tech and tech companies stop bribing politicians.

      Unfortunately most stories that are posted have political implications.

    5. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, because some asshole that did nothing of praise but was latched to a big "tech" biz "living the life" "doing what he loved!" is worthy of front page news unlike the common native peasant carrying his luggage on donkeys up the camp, because "those "weren't living the life" and "doing what they love", but who cares, they are poor because they chose to.

    6. Re:That's too bad by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Why is this on slashdot?

      For one, because there may well be some slashdotters who worked with him and can expand on what affect this might have on one or another Google project. Something you wouldn't find on a mainstream site.

    7. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's too bad. Why is this on slashdot?

      Google is a company that does a few things with internet technology. Here's their website if you're interested in checking them out: http://www.google.com

      Not trying to be a web design critic here, but somebody should be fucking fired for that homepage. Like a single search box is supposed to tell me something about a company named Google?

      (Pretend you had never heard of Google. Now you might understand just how fucking stupid it is to direct someone to google.com to learn about Google)

    8. Re:That's too bad by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Like a single search box is supposed to tell me something about a company named Google?

      Yes. Just type "google" into the search box, and they click "I'm feeling lucky".

    9. Re:That's too bad by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's too bad. Why is this on slashdot?

      A better question is: Why are you on Slashdot?

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    10. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do, and he has valid points.

    11. Re:That's too bad by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, because some asshole that did nothing of praise but was latched to a big "tech" biz "living the life" "doing what he loved!" is worthy of front page news unlike the common native peasant carrying his luggage on donkeys

      False. We discussed the death of peasants yesterday. Today, a whole day later, we're discussing the death of a googler. You're either disingenuous, a dipshit, or both. But then, you didn't log in, so we knew that.

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    12. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't Hacker News, for crying out loud. We don't use the word "disingenuous" here. We aren't hipsters.

    13. Re:That's too bad by msobkow · · Score: 1

      Some people see everything in life as being politics, and Slashdot has enough of a population that there will always be a few such people showing up to post on every article/topic, so, yes, every story has to be a political trollfest.

      Myself, I find it sad that this one person is being singled out for discussion while 1799 equally worthy human beings are being ignored and forgotten because they weren't "in tech."

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    14. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried that - now my internet's making a soundlike "flush".

    15. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does every story have to be a political trollfest?

      Little basement dweller SJWs run the place. So yes, we must have lots and lots of super duper important controversy all the time.

    16. Re:That's too bad by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This isn't Hacker News, for crying out loud. We don't use the word "disingenuous" here. We aren't hipsters.

      I was using the word 'disingenuous' on Slashdot before Hacker News existed.

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    17. Re: That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess you are a hipster, then.

    18. Re: That's too bad by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Guess you are a hipster, then.

      You sound like the insecure dumb kids back in junior high school. If my crime is sounding smarter than you're comfortable with, mission accomplished.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    19. Re:That's too bad by quantaman · · Score: 1

      No, because some asshole that did nothing of praise but was latched to a big "tech" biz "living the life" "doing what he loved!" is worthy of front page news unlike the common native peasant carrying his luggage on donkeys up the camp, because "those "weren't living the life" and "doing what they love", but who cares, they are poor because they chose to.

      Yes! Lets show off our empathy and great social conscience by calling a dead person an asshole!

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    20. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel like this comment is proof that our culture is changing in meaningful ways.

    21. Re:That's too bad by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 2

      (Pretend you had never heard of Google. Now you might understand just how fucking stupid it is to direct someone to google.com to learn about Google)

      Pretend you're an arseclown and can't use the links on an entry page for a company, to find out about a company. Oh wait - you don't have to pretend.

      In todays tech news someone from a tech company died. In arseclown news yet another arseclown couldn't find arseclown.org so trolled as anonymous coward on slashdot instead. When interviewed the arseclown said "I hate tech, it's full of smart people who make me feel stupid, when I'm not busy pissing on people's furniture I like to troll on /. and talk about my genitals, the shrink says it makes me feel less (rightfully) socially marginalized"

    22. Re:That's too bad by Prune · · Score: 1

      Wow, I never thought the day would come, but I actually agree with drinkypoo on something!

      --
      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    23. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe reading can help? There is an "About" link right there on the front page.

    24. Re:That's too bad by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Why are you trying to break the internet?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    25. Re: That's too bad by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I doubt it. Much as I hate to say it, he both spelled and used it correctly.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    26. Re: That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it. Much as I hate to say it, he both spelled and used it correctly.

      Let me get this straight? People die so you two obnoxious clowns are arguing over which one of you is smarter and better than the other? Way to go on respecting the dead! Mission accomplished indeed.

    27. Re:That's too bad by Holi · · Score: 1

      Just type Google in the search bar, Duh.

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    28. Re: That's too bad by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Pretty much. It's not like any of us knew them personally, is it?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    29. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that we can laugh. Karma is a bitch and this guy just got served for harvesting and selling out millions of users' personal data.

      "Privacy" director indeed. Good riddance to a slimeball.

    30. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you can't even take care of yourself, as is evident by you being an obese piece of shit. You have no position to talk shit to anyone, fatboy.

    31. Re:That's too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a phrase for that in my country: "No hay finao malo". You're dead, automagically you are all good and cool. For me at least, its just a dead dude, not any better or worse than the anonymous peasant killed by some rock slide while taking his goods to the market. I'm sorry for his family in the same extent that i'm sorry for the peasant's.

  2. vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Granted the other 1000+ who have died are mostly poor, but on the other hand, they have not done the social harm that Mr Fredinburg has in working for the biggest destroyer of privacy on the planet.

    And the 10's of thousands of others who didn't die but were displaced and had their homes destroyed cannot easily afford to replace them. Possibly because they did not enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else's privacy.

    1. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Granted the other 1000+ who have died are mostly poor, but on the other hand, they have not done the social harm that Mr Fredinburg has in working for the biggest destroyer of privacy on the planet.

      And the 10's of thousands of others who didn't die but were displaced and had their homes destroyed cannot easily afford to replace them. Possibly because they did not enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else's privacy.

      +5 Insightful /thread

    2. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The death count is currently at 17 with approximately 30 injured.

      The earthquake's death toll is currently over 2500.
      Source: CNN, BBC, and Red cross.

      Those people matter just as much as some rich guy climbing Everest who the earthquake killed via avalanche.

    3. Re:vs the other thousands... by Grishnakh · · Score: 0

      What about the people in the middle east getting killed in the conflicts there? Don't they matter too? Why aren't we talking about them?

      This article isn't about the earthquake, this is about an avalanche.

    4. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The avalanche was caused by the earthquake. It's the same event, and the deaths are from the same root cause as all the thousands who died buried under buildings that tumbled down on them: the ground shook and they were buried under things shaken loose, snow or bricks.

      But you knew that, didn't you? You just wanted to pretend otherwise, because then it wouldn't be so obvious that some people dead in the quake are being singled out for special treatment in the news media because they are rich.

    5. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If Google didn't exist, then Yahoo or Microsoft would be the biggest destroyers of privacy on the planet, and they would be doing exactly what Google is doing (in fact, they already are).

      If none of them existed, then some other tech company would do it. In any parallel universe, the existence of the Internet will motivate the creation of tech giants with search engines, which will in turn motivate the mass collection of personal data.

      Google is just the company that got out in front. The loss of privacy is (and always was) inevitable.

      Human nature is to follow incentives. That's all there is to the story, really.

    6. Re: vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The headline (and presumably the article) are discussing those killed by the avalanche(s) on Everest caused by the earthquake, not the totals killed by the earthquake overall. Nobody said that their lives were more valuable than the rest, just about different things

    7. Re:vs the other thousands... by ckatko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The biggest destroyer of privacy on the Internet is the fucking US government, not a single corporation. You can always choose not to use a company's products (minus Comcast, eh?), but the government literally sifts everything regardless of your choices.

    8. Re:vs the other thousands... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      working for the biggest destroyer of privacy on the planet.

      Indeed, he was a true monster and deserves to be vilified. We should start a kickstarter to buy pitchforks for all. I'll organise a press release.

      This post is authorised by the NSA, TSA, FBI, CIA, US Government, NATO, EU, UN, Allied governments of the USA, and enemy governments of the USA.

    9. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably. All right, let's go with "second biggest" then. Still...

    10. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If we don't do it to you, someone else will do it worse" ... is the ultimate cop-out weasel excuse of capitalism.

      Now, tell us more about your bullsh*t historic inevitabilities.

    11. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People have been getting killed for so long in the ME it has faded from the headlines. And since nobody has the will to stop the violence it will continue. A concerted and coordinated effort by the US, Russia, Israel, and China could stop the violence. It would take a full court no holds bar fight using air and land based attacks. Civilians will die, cities will be destroyed, and soldiers will die but that is already an everyday reality in the ME. And yes it would be an actual war but it is going to take a war to stop the ongoing violence. There is no one to negotiate with in the various terrorist groups operating in the region. The various countries in the region have proved since their inception that they can not be trusted to abide by any agreements or promises to cleanse their countries of all the terrorist groups in their country. The US could withdraw every single piece of military hardware and troops from the region and the violence will continue and escalate to a level not seen since the carnage of WW2. Maybe one day the ME will produce a leader who can leave religious dogma and hateful rhetoric out of their speeches and actually worry about things like their economy and their citizens welfare. So far their best leaders have did nothing but use extreme violence against any citizen who would voice an opinion critical of their government. They have practiced this type of governing so long that the masses understand the consequences of doing anything that might irritate the state. It is not enough to blame the US or any other foreign power for their actions in the region. What does accusing someone else for the problems in the ME get you? Does it contribute anything to stop the violence? The violence will never be stopped until the international community starts blaming those who are planning attacks, pulling the triggers, launching the rockets, and conducting suicide bombing attacks. But the worst thing is I don't really give a shit what they are doing in the ME and I am certain there are many others who feel the same way. The worlds leadership and citizens have lost all vestiges of courage, honor, and willingness to take responsibility and replaced those attributes with endless political and intellectual posturing resulting in nothing but cluster fucks that have not solved a problem for so long they have forgotten how to even begin solving even the small problems facing the world.

    12. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a observation of reality, not a prescription of policy. Your understanding of reality will be very limited if you dismiss this observation just because you don't like this outcome. Instead of dismissing reality as it is now, maybe it's more beneficial to humanity if you accept reality as it is then consider strategy to promote an outcome you'd like to see.

    13. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Granted the other 1000+ who have died are mostly poor, but on the other hand, they have not done the social harm that Mr Fredinburg has in working for the biggest destroyer of privacy on the planet.

      You deserve to die you low life piece of shit.

    14. Re: vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you wasting your time trying to reason with self centred ignorant people

    15. Re: vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Profanity? Really? We can't have an educated conversation using proper English

    16. Re:vs the other thousands... by neilo_1701D · · Score: 1

      Those people matter just as much as some rich guy climbing Everest who the earthquake killed via avalanche.

      Every single life matters as much as the next person's.

      With a disaster like this, it's very easy to dissociate from those affected because there's no personal connection. By mentioning Dan Fredinburg, no matter what you think of him, he is a name that you at least know and draw some connection to.

      2,500 dead, and I've heard of at least one of them. That connects me more to that event, and makes me reach for the card to donate to Red Cross much more than, say, all the killings in Yemen. An Australian was killed, and again that connects me more to that event than what Boko Harem has been up to in Nigeria.

    17. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they matter to you then what are their names?

    18. Re: vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the scared AC.

    19. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr Fredinburg has in working for the biggest destroyer of privacy on the planet.

      Yep and he was in charge of raping out privacy.

      One could say.
      Karma is a mother fucker.

      Glad the bastard died I do feel sorry of the Sherpa's and their families.

    20. Re: vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That seriously fucked up to say you are glad that some random guy died.

    21. Re:vs the other thousands... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reality of the situation if this Google executive had died unexpectedly from something else (e.g. a car accident) it probably would have been news even if most people had never heard of him.

      If some regular Nepalese citizen that nobody outside of Nepal has ever heard of dies it's NOT going to be news. Now if 4,000* Nepalese die it will be international news - and it is.

      From the coverage I've seen this Google executive is NOT the story. Outside of this thread I think I've only seen it mentioned once.

      People die in the mountains all over the world every year. It usually makes the local news (I live in the Rockies) but if it's just your average person it's not going to get much coverage beyond that (unless there's "viral" video of them playing with their cat and then it will be the lead story).

      Maybe you should go watch Anderson Cooper. He loves tragedies like this and I'm sure he'll be interviewing every poor Nepalese family member who lost someone that he can because there's nothing like interviewing grieving family members. Newsflash: They're going to be very sad, grieving and mourning their loss. They might even be angry if they think more should have been done to protect them or if they still don't know the fate of their loved ones and they feel not enough is being done.

      Of course if Anderson Cooper can't get a grieving Sherpa's widow or a newly orphaned child in Kathmandu he'll settle for the 2nd cousin's brother-in-law's grandmother of the Google executive to tell us how great a guy he was and how everyone misses him sooooo much and they just "can't believe this happened."

      * - the death toll keeps rising and I'm expecting it to be at least 4,000.

  3. At least he died doing what he loved. by Grog6 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Base Camp on Mount Everest; not a bad place to kick off, all thing considered...

    Hopefully there was a pitcher of Mai-Tais and some native girls. :)

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    1. Re:At least he died doing what he loved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The native girls died, too, but nobody cares because they weren't rich white tourists. At least they died doing what they loved, being exploited by someone with more money than them, so that they could eat.

      Were there any more corporate executives that died in the earthquake, so that we can give a shit about them?

    2. Re:At least he died doing what he loved. by Rei · · Score: 1

      Thanks to Google's project Calico, I would like to be the first to wish Dan a speedy recovery.

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  4. Re:Starlight Glimmer 2016 by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    I'm voting for Fluttershy, you insensitive clod!

    I mean, if it's okay with you...

  5. Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With all due respects to Mr. Fredinburg, climbing Mr. Everest is now the "in" thing to do for the elites, to the point that the area is strewn with garbage and human excrement that would take years to be cleansed by natural means even if all climbing were to cease today.

    1. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you are active in the GET BEARS OUT OF THE WOODS party are you? If a man has to shit a man has to shit. For all you know this Google person - who was to have been a Twitter person next year - was shitting when the end came. Is THAT any way to die?

    2. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm just waiting for someone with money to bring the situation to its obvious parodic conclusion and be carried up to the top on a gilded litter dressed like Xerces.

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    3. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > With all due respects to Mr. Fredinburg, climbing Mr. Everest is now the "in" thing to do for the elites,

      Sounds like you are saying he's not due much respect.
      I tend to agree, I just think that turn of phrase is disingenuous.

    4. Re:Mt. Everest fad by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      For all you know this Google person - who was to have been a Twitter person next year - was shitting when the end came. Is THAT any way to die?

      It was good enough for Elvis.

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    5. Re:Mt. Everest fad by rHBa · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Elvis Lives! He faked his own death on the toilet.

    6. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Astute.

    7. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

      It just smelled like he died in the bathroom. My wife says the same thing about me.

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    8. Re:Mt. Everest fad by t_ban · · Score: 2

      climbing Mr. Everest

      My wife does every this every night, yeah!!

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    9. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diet not working, then?

    10. Re:Mt. Everest fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's odd, last night she called it K2.

    11. Re:Mt. Everest fad by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      My urologist is a Sherpa.

  6. Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    2,500 people died and a poor country is devastated and all that makes the news is one dead American. Disgusting.

    1. Re:Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just an American... an employee of Google!

    2. Re:Americentred worldview by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 2

      My, you're dense.

    3. Re:Americentred worldview by rubycodez · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking you are, linking to a story claiming social *could* help in such disasters, with a closing sentence that one family marked themselves safe on Facebook! HAHAHAHA, yeah tweets and facebook likes will stop falling rocks and bring food/shelter/medical aide to the victims. Let's all paste a white and grey ribbon on our social media pages because "we care" and "to raise awareness" while we're at it.

    4. Re:Americentred worldview by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      2,500 people died and a poor country is devastated and all that makes the news is one dead American. Disgusting.

      Moron.

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    5. Re:Americentred worldview by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The dipshit that modded my post down should have clicked the link. Since braincells are at a premium here I'll spell it out:

      AC at +4 said:
      2,500 people died and a poor country is devastated and all that makes the news is one dead American. Disgusting.

      And what do you see when you click my link?

      7.8 Earthquake Rocks Nepal, Hundreds Dead

      Same site, only a day earlier.

      'Moron' not only describes the AC, but the people who modded his post up and mine down.

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    6. Re:Americentred worldview by physicsphairy · · Score: 2

      If Slashdot's editorial duty is to emphasize news items based on their humanitarian importance, it fails with every article that isn't about death, poverty, slavery, etc. Of course, then it wouldn't be a tech website and we probably wouldn't visit it, so that all is fairly moot. This is about Dan Fredinburg because he was relevant to tech and known in our community (and he's certainly worth remembering as a person as well, regardless of what else is in the news). It's not here because it was the most important thing to happen in the past week.

      I think it's on us to give the events in Nepal their due emphasis. Personally, I have donated to Doctors Without Borders, which is sending medical aid. I invite anyone else to do the same, and maybe to bring up the topic with family, friends, and coworkers.

      But I am very glad and thank you for remembering the other Nepali. Maybe if we let the editors know that we would like them to setup a donation button or organize something in that vein so we can help out as a community, they would oblige.

    7. Re:Americentred worldview by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      Ah, so you think that the second story is silly -- never mind the first, straight-news story, which the doltish AC apparently missed.

      So, overlooking the irony that you're here on a Web forum mocking people instead of Bringing Aid To The Victims yourself... no, I find that I can't actually overlook that irony. HAHAHAHA, as you say. But, for the sake of argument, what would you have people do on Facebook? Or here? Perhaps you'd prefer that people in the affected area refrain from tweeting, and restrict themselves to decorous registered post?

    8. Re:Americentred worldview by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      A. Finding out your loved one is safe is valuable.

      B. Your comment is outside of the context.

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    9. Re:Americentred worldview by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Well, why don't you submit an article to the moderators about the 2,500 people who died and see if they choose to post it. Then we will kick back and see how many people read it.

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    10. Re:Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh noes, my precious internet points!

    11. Re:Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amusingly you had to rely on your backup plan of posting anonymously.

    12. Re:Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So did you.

    13. Re: Americentred worldview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally someone with some common sense!!!!!

    14. Re:Americentred worldview by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      I actually donate money to organizations that help victims of big disasters

      fuck that social media and awareness bullshit

  7. An honorable way to die by stox · · Score: 1

    It dies with its teeth in the enemy's throat,

    It dies with its name on the enemy's tongue.

    For just as mere life is not victory,

    Mere death is not defeat;

    And in the next world I shall kill the foe a thousand times,

    Laughing,

    Undefeated.

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    "To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
    1. Re:An honorable way to die by kwoff · · Score: 1

      Nice jihad, asshole

    2. Re:An honorable way to die by Venotar · · Score: 1

      Nice jihad, asshole

      Don't you mean: "Nice veS quv", asshole?

  8. How did he even get that job? by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Climbing Everest is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, pointless task for people with severe mental problems like constantly needing approval from others or pathological levels of arrogance or constantly feeling inadequate. So I have to wonder how he even got that job at Google with the personality of an Everest climber.

    1. Re:How did he even get that job? by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

      Climbing Everest is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, pointless task

      To be fair, slashmydots thinks the same thing of leaving the basement.

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    2. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm confused, how would those traits /not/ get him a job at Google? Given Google's level of arrogance in it's products and the way it runs its search, I'd expect no less.

      It's unfortunat, slashmydots is such an nincompoop to write this about someone's death (stupid or not).

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    3. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how would he have kept the job? Climbing Everest takes at least 2 months. He was a VP at Google. Which is a high-pressure, 100-hour per week type of job. The type of job that you can't take off from for more than a week without losing it.

    4. Re: How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odds are he sucked someone off.

    5. Re:How did he even get that job? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      FTFS:

      He also was involved in Google Street View Everest [...]

      So it was work-related.

    6. Re:How did he even get that job? by quantaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Climbing Everest is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, pointless task for people with severe mental problems like constantly needing approval from others or pathological levels of arrogance or constantly feeling inadequate. So I have to wonder how he even got that job at Google with the personality of an Everest climber.

      Do you play computer games?

      If so do you play on beginner mode or hard mode? Personally I go for the harder modes because accomplishment is a lot more satisfying when there's a legitimate challenge involved.

      Climbing Everest isn't anything different. If you really like to climb it's the most accessible major challenge out there, it's true that not everybody who climbs Everest is a dedicated climber who's "earned" the right to take on that challenge, but I see no evidence that Dan Fredinburg was one of those people.

      The fact that climbing Everest doesn't personally appeal to you doesn't give you grounds to make up some BS rationalization for insulting those who do.

      Personally I have no desire to take on an even moderately dangerous hobby, but I think nothing less of those who do.

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    7. Re:How did he even get that job? by batistuta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wish I had points to mod parent up. I couldn't have summarized this better. Kudos for doing it in such a respectful way.

    8. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not such a good comparison. For one thing, a video game gives you continues, and, other than a factory worker in korea, doesn't exploit poorer cultures in dangerous ways. A video game isn't the matrix either. If your xbox360 gets RRoD, you throw it away.

      There's a more subtle problem with your line of thinking that slashmydots pointed out, that the pursuit of everest is selfish. You do not "conquer" this challenge yourself, as you might by biking up the col de ventoux, or by free-climbing el-capitan. There is great expense involved, and you would need support from what is practically an aboriginal people. (You also cannot actually survive the summit, so you need all of industrialized society behind you to supply you with air/gear). This is just bad ethics. See how many chin ups you can do, or what your fastest run of X distance is, or the fastest bike or swim at some interesting location. Climbing everest proves only that you had about 65 thousand dollars to set on fire, and are sadly lacking in imagination.

    9. Re:How did he even get that job? by quantaman · · Score: 1

      This is not such a good comparison. For one thing, a video game gives you continues

      Fine, mountain biking, martial arts, skydiving. There's risk in all of those, I assume you disapprove?

      and, other than a factory worker in korea, doesn't exploit poorer cultures in dangerous ways.

      Working as a Sherpa can pay an order of magnitude more than other occupations in that economy. That doesn't mean there isn't an ethical dilemma involved but your argument is almost like saying we can't pay them Western salaries so we shouldn't hire them at all.

      There's a more subtle problem with your line of thinking that slashmydots pointed out, that the pursuit of everest is selfish. You do not "conquer" this challenge yourself

      Neither do the Stanley Cup Champions.

      as you might by biking up the col de ventoux

      Or riders in the Tour De France.

      There is great expense involved, and you would need support from what is practically an aboriginal people.

      Climbing without support would be a greater accomplishment, and as I said there's some very dubious expeditions, but they're still accomplishing an extremely difficult task.

      (You also cannot actually survive the summit, so you need all of industrialized society behind you to supply you with air/gear).

      So? Is scuba diving also immoral?

      This is just bad ethics.

      You know what is actually bad ethics? Accusing other people of being unethical for relatively arbitrary reasons because you disapprove of their subculture.

      See how many chin ups you can do, or what your fastest run of X distance is, or the fastest bike or swim at some interesting location. Climbing everest proves only that you had about 65 thousand dollars to set on fire, and are sadly lacking in imagination.

      Oddly enough I find the list of typical everyday activities to be lacking in imagination.

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    10. Re:How did he even get that job? by quantaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's no chance of dying from a video game and I start on normal because I play to have fun, not to prove anything to anyone.

      How arrogant are you to presume you know what motivated him?

      If I play on hard, it's just to see if I can do it and because I got better at the game. But I'm glad you think he "earned" the right (aka he's a stuck up rich asshole who can afford the travel costs and expensive gear) to climb Everest. I think he earned the right to have an avalanche fall on his head.

      There are poor people living in awful neighborhoods who wish they could afford a security system or a gun or to move and they're in danger every day. Then there's this rich asshole who's just so bored with his career and life, he has to travel around the world and climb a mountain. He got what he deserved and frankly every poor person he offended agrees with me.

      Are you posting this from a poor village in Africa where you're volunteering to give subsistence farmers a better life or are you posting from a nice home in the West working a typical Western job?

      You probably spend a similar portion of your wealth on recreational activities as he did. The only difference is he had a lot more money so could spend more. You're a rich asshole who's just so bored with his career and life, he has to surf the Internet on his fancy computer posting on forums. I think you earned the right to have a router fall on your head.

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    11. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the ole "Get back in line, you ungrateful middle-class recipient of all the rich-persons' gifts" spiel.

      That got old way back in the 90s, and was past its expiration by 2007.

    12. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Climbing Everest isn't anything different. If you really like to climb it's the most accessible major challenge out there,

      In which case he should have been on K2 which is the more challenging by all accounts. But with Everest you just have to drop the money and it can get you to the top with the least amount of effort.

      Regardless, I wish that this did not befall him. R.I.P.

    13. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?! Did you just write the job advert for the ideal job candidate for google? How can you be surprised that he actually worked there?

    14. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > task for people with severe mental problems constantly needing approval from others or pathological levels of arrogance or constantly feeling inadequate
      > So I have to wonder how he even got that job at Google
      And you wonder how he got the job. Really?

    15. Re:How did he even get that job? by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      You do not "conquer" this challenge yourself, as you might by biking up the col de ventoux, or by free-climbing el-capitan. There is great expense involved, and you would need support from what is practically an aboriginal people. (You also cannot actually survive the summit, so you need all of industrialized society behind you to supply you with air/gear).

      He did

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    16. Re: How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Climbing mount Everest and leaving your basement is hardly the same thing That doesn't even make sense. If one intentionally puts himself in a dangerous situation it's hardly comparable to getting out of your home everyday ...even if it's s basement. Rude

    17. Re: How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computer games suck up valuable time Time that can be spent on family and friends. Time that can be used to communicate and build on social skills with real people Life threatening hobbies are selfish and lack tremendous respect for life That being said many people don't think of the risks they take Maybe the love the rush or don't think about who they leave behind Bottom line is this many innocent people trying to survive day to day. Died. People looking after their families. Mostly poor. Nameless How can one "conversation" go on for so long about one man wanting to make a name for himself and sll the rest weren't eorrhy to be named rather are in the numbered death toll? Shame!!!!!

    18. Re:How did he even get that job? by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      The big question is which are you?

      __ Stooge for the wealthy (I'm sorry you are so easily mislead) __ Sycophant for the wealthy (I'm sorry you are so greedy) __ Wealthy (I'm sorry you are a sociopath) __ suffering from a brain injury (I'm sorry your parents dropped you) __ suffering from heavy metal poisoning (I'm sorry paint chips are so delicious) __ Dumb (I'm sorry for your mental limitations)

    19. Re:How did he even get that job? by benjymouse · · Score: 1

      Climbing Everest is stupid, irresponsible, dangerous, pointless task for people with severe mental problems like constantly needing approval from others or pathological levels of arrogance or constantly feeling inadequate. So I have to wonder how he even got that job at Google with the personality of an Everest climber.

      He was privacy director at Google. Hello? Being away climbing mountains 11 months a year was a core qualification.

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    20. Re:How did he even get that job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "expensive gear" includes a lot of fees and licenses which contribute a great deal to Nepal's economy.

      Without people climbing Everest the poor people in Nepal would be even poorer.

      Maybe you would have people just spend that money anyway without being allowed to climb it. Are you sending money to Nepal? Especially now that their country has been devastated? It's okay if you can't afford enough to actually have traveled there and climbed Everest, just send what you can.

  9. Meh, not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When these amateurs start climbing it again WITHOUT a slew of sherpas, and oxygen tanks and using ACTUAL expert mountaineers to hold their hands, then I'll be impressed.

    Comparing the conditions under which people like Sir Edmund Hilary climbed to today's rich, trendy yuppies like this guy -- well, clearly times are different.

    1. Re:Meh, not impressed. by russotto · · Score: 1

      Even Hilary went with Sherpas. Also oxygen. First climb without oxygen was 1978. (unless the Sherpas had been doing it since forever, who knows?)

    2. Re:Meh, not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some have argued that Sir Edmund Hillary was an early form of the modern hipster.

    3. Re:Meh, not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Hilary had ONE sherpa when he first successfully climb it, ONE, not a whole goddamn team of them. He also carried his own oxygen, again not having a team of 'serfs' doing it for him -- AND given the kind of gear he had to work with compared to today's -- it IS a lot more impressive than some rich google hipster trying with a entourage of people to hold his hand and baby him along the way.

  10. More than 2,200 have died by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was very tragic for the Nepalese people as well.

    I feel sorry for the people grieving today for lost loved ones. But I'm getting a bit tired of the tiny number of climbers and tourists that died completely dominating the news. Thousands of Nepalese died. Their loved ones may have trouble even surviving, going forward. Let's not forget about them.

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    1. Re:More than 2,200 have died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are "Nepalese"? Anyways, did you hear a good rich guy died on the mountain? Worked at Google! Also, there's this hot doctor chick that's been featured a lot too! Good-looking people dead...damn you Everest!

    2. Re:More than 2,200 have died by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I feel sorry for your inability to keep your knee from jerking.

      We already discussed the incident in larger scope. If you missed it, nobody cares.

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    3. Re:More than 2,200 have died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those facts were reported too. The people who care are not forgetting them.

      If you don't like which facts are emphasized by your news outlets, maybe you need to switch news outlets.

    4. Re:More than 2,200 have died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree; it is a tragedy. As for the news coverage probably it is matter of accessibility; it is hard to get camera team in the stricken area, my guess is that given time we will see more of the local coverage.

  11. Answer by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 2

    So that annoying pedants like me have an excuse to point out that Everest is not the tallest mountain in the world (merely the highest) and that the thousands of people who insist on climbing it are overpaid, pretentious dicks who would rather brag about nearly dying of cerebral edema or hypothermia than do something like climb Kilimanjaro (the tallest above-sea mountain in the world), which is a longer and much more scenic climb.

    1. Re:Answer by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      So that annoying pedants like me have an excuse to point out that Everest is not the tallest mountain in the world (merely the highest)

      Actually, it is neither. The tallest, measured from its base to its summit, is Mauna Kea. The highest, when measured from the center of the earth, is Chimborazo in Ecuador. Everest is just the highest above sea level.

      Previous earthquakes in the region have changed the height of Everest, usually by pushing it up even higher. I have not heard about any effect on its height from this quake. Does anyone know?

    2. Re:Answer by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      It will probably take a while for a satellite flyover to check. IIRC there is a hyperaccurate GPS on, or near, the summit so that might give us some info. Remember the Himalayas are pretty active with some areas getting as much as 1 cm / yr in vertical displacement.

      Obviously, this is not the high priority right now.

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    3. Re:Answer by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 1

      Yes yes, lovely fancy pedantic answers, but I still think Kilimanjaro deserves mentioning as the mountain that involves the longest vertical distance traveled for a mountain climber (assuming we discount all of these pesky underwater mountain climbers and center of the earth mountain climbers.)

      Clearly, this is intuitively what people imagine when they hear of a "tallest" or "highest" mountain. Go up to the peaks of these mountains, look down at the ground level where you started--the one that is the farthest from that ground level, the one that involves traversing a longer vertical distance, the one that gives you the farthest clear view to the horizon--that is the tallest mountain. And the name of that mountain is, from my understanding, Kilimanjaro.

  12. Re: google is Satan Itself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad someone else agrees. fuck Google and fuck this spoiled rich cunt who died

  13. Kind of ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Part of why he was there was to "save the ice".

    In the end the ice didn't care.

    There's a joke to be had there, but even though I disagreed with his mission, it's a real loss to us all when anyone dies. I'm sure there are many that miss him, condolences to all.

  14. Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apparently we don't care about a terrible natural disaster unless some famous white guy, livin' the dream for his Googlionaire foundation, dies in an avalanche.

    The world has looked the other way for a long time at the exploitation of the Sherpa and the other problems caused by rich Westerners, many not well-qualified, who feel they just have to make the Everest attempt. It's mostly the Sherpa who pay the toll.

    1. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by sexconker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Apparently we don't care about a terrible natural disaster unless some famous white guy, livin' the dream for his Googlionaire foundation, dies in an avalanche.

      The world has looked the other way for a long time at the exploitation of the Sherpa and the other problems caused by rich Westerners, many not well-qualified, who feel they just have to make the Everest attempt. It's mostly the Sherpa who pay the toll.

      I've never understood the sherpa thing.
      If you're going to climb Everest, shouldn't you at least do the work yourself? Claiming you climbed Mt. Everest and not acknowledging the people who hauled your ass up there is like claiming you trekked the Grand Canyon and not mentioning that it was a bus tour and all you did was get out for a few photos.

    2. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Refusing to use the sherpas on Mount Everst is like refusing to use rope. They know the terrain, the weather, they massively increase your ability to carry critical gear, and they're already acclimated to high altitude climbing. They're a critical part of the climb.

    3. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by t_ban · · Score: 1

      Also consider how we mostly hear about Edmund Hillary, and not so much about Tenzing Norgay the Sherpa who was Hillary's partner, and was arguably the first to reach the summit.

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    4. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by DeathElk · · Score: 1

      Just stay away from the Sherpa stew...

    5. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Apparently we don't care about a terrible natural disaster unless some famous white guy, livin' the dream for his Googlionaire foundation, dies in an avalanche.

      The world has looked the other way for a long time at the exploitation of the Sherpa and the other problems caused by rich Westerners, many not well-qualified, who feel they just have to make the Everest attempt. It's mostly the Sherpa who pay the toll.

      I've never understood the sherpa thing. If you're going to climb Everest, shouldn't you at least do the work yourself? Claiming you climbed Mt. Everest and not acknowledging the people who hauled your ass up there is like claiming you trekked the Grand Canyon and not mentioning that it was a bus tour and all you did was get out for a few photos.

      I've never understood the whole Everest thing and I have heard a number of people who climbed Everest say the same. They either almost got their ass killed climbing up there or they walked past people who didn't make it and either lay there dead beside the path or were in the process of dying. Apparently it's an unwritten rule that you leave people to die if they can't make it and there are some pretty chilling stories by people who summited Everest of dying people laying there next to the path pleading for help. So why climb Everest? It's been done, what's there to prove? Those last two sentences aren't my words they are the words of an American who got the idea in his head to climb Everest and lost his nose and most of his fingers and toes in the process. Most of the people who 'summit' Everest are literally carried up there by Sherpas. If I ever get the notion to 'summit' Everest I'll take a helicopter, jump out, take a few snaps and fly back down again and even that would be (1) a stupid risk and (2) something that has been done before: Didier Delsalle, Eurocopter AS350 (It kind of surprised me that it was done by a little flea like the AS350, you'd expect the first chopper to summit Everest to be some big burly monster like a Black Hawk brimming with horsepowers.)

    6. Re:Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      I always hear about Tenzing Norgay when Edmund Hillary is mentioned. I guess it depends on your sources.

    7. Re: Sherpa? Is that an ice cream flavor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too, actually Edmund has given back a lot to Nepal, he's built schools, hospitals etc. Edmund never took credit for it alone. He knew he would not have made it without him. He had high respect for the Sherpa people.

  15. Slashdot! Your source for breaking news! by taxtropel · · Score: 1

    ...days later...

  16. Re: lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About time. Google sucks at life.

  17. Re: Was he an SJW, pro-feminist, anti-pedo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are not a troll. You are a spammer. Please go away.

  18. He was 33 by plopez · · Score: 1

    It was time for a reduction in head count.

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  19. GOOG expiry by m3ntos · · Score: 2

    His GOOG palm crystal changed color.

  20. Mod parent down by Prune · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I climb mountains as a hobby, and know many climbers, a large proportion of whom are geeks who are disinterested in team sports. It's a hobby like any other physical hobby. It brings risk, but also enormous enjoyment from the combination of experiencing the raw beauty of nature where there are very few others with the challenge and thrill of reaching a summit. We climb a peak not to show off; we climb it because it is there. A tiny fraction of mountaineers are interested in bragging rights (except, perhaps, amongst themselves in a good-spirited manner), so your slight against us is rude and ignorant. Fuck you!

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    1. Re:Mod parent down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well said. Besides, nobody goes climbing to die... They go there to *live*. Shit does occasionally happen, but that has nothing to do with the reason why folks go outdoors.

    2. Re:Mod parent down by dargaud · · Score: 1

      I'm a climber too but the GP has a point: there are a few summits, namely Everest, Mt Blanc and Denali, which attract inexperienced idiots. On those 3 you find people who have never put on crampons before, or even gone camping ! I've seen it firsthand. Climb on !

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  21. Re:Retard Von-Clusterfuck 2016 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm voting for a mentally retarded republican in 2016 because I'm an abject retard myself.

    Can't you Hillary supporters stay silent even for a moment out of respect?

  22. How was he an engineer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Fredinburg , he was a product manager who worked on Google X projects. What real engineering work did he do?

    1. Re:How was he an engineer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  23. Re: lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, I googled "sucks at life", and all I got was some Urban Dictionary crap... your point is?

  24. Privacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Figures the "Privacy Director" at Google would be out climbing Mt. Everest.

    1. Re: Privacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is starting to sound like that Archer episode. Did the NSA and CIA have a joint venture to cause this "accident" because a certain "privacy director" no longer played ball and rolled over like a good puppies?

  25. So you're saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're saying Google is looking to fill a high-paying executive position?

    Too soon?

  26. Victims? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't realize these people were being held on the mountain against their will. You knew the risks when you signed up to climb this mountain. This immediately takes away all "tragedy" and victim-hood from anyone who was killed or injured in this event. Sorry. It isn't a tragedy when you're playing Russian Roulette and your chamber has the bullet in it.

  27. "Climbing" Everest became an abomination... by Grey+Geezer · · Score: 2

    long ago. The oxygen bottles, sherpas, packaged guide services, gourmet food, bridged/extension laddered/roped route "improvements", and instant cell phone/radio communication have made it a circus. I understand why it still appeals to arrogant assholes though... but, it's similar to state of the art "sport" fishing and hunting, which, (in a similar way) "enhanced" by sonar fish locators, high speed fishing boats, carbon fiber rods, laser sighting, tree stands, scent masking, baiting, and "canned" hunts, has become spiritually bankrupt. I wish we could all stop admiring these narcissistic activities.

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