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Google Officially Discontinues Nexus 7 Tablet

An anonymous reader writes: Google's 7-inch tablet has disappeared from the Google Store, where a note in red type simply states that the device is no longer available for purchase. "The Nexus 7 was first released back in 2013, so it's fair to say it had a good run. The Android-based tablet received great reviews, but what really made it a long-term success was the fact that it was affordable and continually received updates from Google. Manufactured by Asus, the Nexus 7 was even treated to Android Lollipop, the latest version of the operating system, although not with bug-free results. The discontinuation shouldn't come as a big surprise, however, as Google pulled a similar move back in March with the Nexus 5 smartphone, not to mention the Nexus 9 tablet's release last fall."

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  1. "although not with bug-free results" by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Google can't even make Lollipop work on its own hardware, how much of an endorsement is that for other manufacturers to put their efforts into Android? Clearly it's not because Google is underfunded.

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    1. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've never seen a lollipop device that didn't have bad memory management (app restart) issues. They really dropped the ball with lollipop.

      Not to mention the new broken notifications system.

      Like a vapid valley girl, all Lollipop has going for it is its looks.

    2. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article was pretty poor.

      There were two Nexus 7 devices:
      1) The 2012 Nexus 7 (often referred to by its internal codename, grouper), using an NVidia Tegra3 chipset. This did get Lollipop, although it was kind of "meh", mostly with performance issues, showing that the hardware was getting a little on the old side. Google may have been trying to make up for the Galaxy Nexus getting dropped prematurely due to TI by keeping a different Nexus device supported for as long as absolutely possible. This device was discontinued in Summer 2013 when its successor was announced.
      2) The 2013 Nexus 7 (often referred to by its internal codename, flo), using a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro (APQ8064), pretty much the same as the Snapdragon 600 at a slightly lower clock speed. This runs Lollipop well due to newer hardware. This is the device that was just discontinued.

      grouper was always a bit "meh" - I don't know if it was the fault of Asus or NVidia, but Tegra3 tablets from Asus were always notorious for poor storage performance. I think other Tegra3 tablets had similar issues, but honestly - Asus was the largest Tegra3 customer by far thanks to grouper and the Transformer series of tablets, so it's hard to tell who was at fault.

      The fact that flo didn't have grouper's storage performance issues (same device manufacturer, different chip inside) indicates it was probably the Tegra3.

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    3. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by ThaumaTechnician · · Score: 5, Informative

      Came here to say the same thing. It's slow/unusable on the original Nexus 7, but on the 2013 version, it's fine.

    4. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2) The 2013 Nexus 7 (often referred to by its internal codename, flo), using a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro (APQ8064), pretty much the same as the Snapdragon 600 at a slightly lower clock speed. This runs Lollipop well due to newer hardware. This is the device that was just discontinued.

      Well, it runs 5.1 well. Many users, including myself, had problems with 5.0 on the Nexus 7 2nd. I had it murder the battery for no reason, and it was generally chunky and unresponsive. 5.1 seems to have solved that, though.

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    5. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      The Kindle app, for example, now likes to hang up so I have to kill it.

      Amazon is probably doing something bad and stupid as usual. I had to remove their store app from my devices because it made them unusable. All of them. Locks, hangs, FCs, even in other apps. Amazon can't code their way out of a nutsack. You can see this in their site, too. They break it every few months.

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    6. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by NeoNormal · · Score: 2

      It's working just fine on mine, though YMMV as they say.

      In other words...motherfucking Google! Must you kill everything I love!

      Agreed. I love my Nexus 7... I don't have a smart phone, my tablet is my portal. Google has ADD.

    7. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 2

      Here's a trick to getting it somewhat useable. Disable auto-rotation. Then go to the Google keyboard settings. Change the theme and in gesture typing, disable dynamic floating preview.

    8. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      It does work just fine, you have to do a full wipe on it. Many users whined and refused to. they suffer bugs.

      Wipe it, then go along re installing apps. DO NOT restore it, just let things come back from the holy google cloud.

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    9. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      Even KitKat 4.4 can be atrocious on my original Nexus7. Though I've found thing that helps tremendously, at least for a while, is an app called "Lag Fix", which defrags the memory apparently.

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    10. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by samwichse · · Score: 2

      I thought LagFix just executed an SSD TRIM.

    11. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      If some anonymous person claims a rare, unlikely hardware fault, my thinking is, that is possible but not a real concern since others don't report the same problem.

      When that coward claims to have had a rare problem twice, I'm assuming either they used some sort of third party battery over-charger, or else they're just full of shit.

      And really, if all we know is that it "stopped charging," you probably torqued the plug until it was loose, and could just bend the housing back and get it working again.

      I did have to re-solder a headphone jack, but that was only after yanking on the cord a bunch of times like a brute. Unlike many devices, the repair was accessible. If I didn't know how to fix it, the whole audio module was easily removed for replacement. A+ design there.

    12. Re:"although not with bug-free results" by Pow · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, but Nexus 7 slow charging is anything but a rare problem. Run a search maybe? Google doesn't care. It's not charger problem and it's not a cable problem. The problem is either software or charger circuit. I just don't have time to hack this POS hardware, software to get it working.

      I also have the charging problem on my original Nexus 7 as well as other headaches -- no TRIM support with encrypted partitions, super slow. Not really using that Google garbage anymore. Bought iPad Mini with retina and never looked back. I guess I'm too old for this hacking shit to get it working.

      It's not just Nexus 7. Google seems to fuck up everytime they do a software update. I also have Nexus 4 and after 5.1 OTA upgrade device displayed error and was bricked. Not an issue for me as I can just go and install factory image wia fastboot but I did a search and a lot of users are hitting this issue and they don't know anything about fastboot or installng android sdk just to fix Googles failure to QA crap they are releasing.

      Wi-Fi stopped reconnecting in sleep mode since 5.0 on my Nexus 4. It just seems that Google keeps breaking functionality with every update.
      I actually opened an issue in their tracker for this as it kinda is important for me https://code.google.com/p/andr...
      I'd go back to 4.4.4 but of course they had to make encrypted data partition backwards incompatible.

      I'm not buying an Android device ever again.

  2. No mention of iPad in the summary? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    As I remember it, the Nexus 7 was part of a strategic campaign by Google to ensure that "tablet" didn't mean "iPad" by introducing a high-quality Android device supported by Google itself to the masses. Now that that mission's largely been accomplished (e.g., if you're just looking for a tablet to browse the Internet and run a couple of simple apps, would you really shell out the extra money buy an iPod?) and there are many high-quality Android tablet alternatives in every form factor imaginable, the Nexus 7 isn't needed so much.

    1. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      there are many high-quality Android tablet alternatives in every form factor imaginable, the Nexus 7 isn't needed so much

      I'll tell you why that's patently untrue.

      A Nexus 7 was essentially guaranteed to get the Google branded Android, with no customizations and other crap by the manufacturer.

      I don't care what Samsung or any other vendor has created in terms of their own stuff, their own store, and crap which is going to be unsupported or prevent me from getting updates.

      With Google dropping a Nexus 7, everything is now likely to be a version of Android in which someone has decided to add their own crap -- primarily with the intent of collecting ad revenue or their own store.

      I want none of this crap. I want a vanilla Android. Not the shit Samsung or any other vendor has foisted on it.

      A Nexus device means you will have proper support from Google. Not be stuck with whatever shit the marketing department somewhere else came up with.

      So now the question becomes when I want to replace my Nexus 7 if I buy a Nexus 9, or I buy a low end iPad.

      Because I have no interest whatsoever in a non-standard Android.

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    2. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      In some cases it's almost needed though. There is still no native support for displaying 2 apps at the same time on Android devices. That may not be such a big issue for phones and 7 inch tablets, but once you get into 10 inch tablets, the ability to continue watching your movie while you look something up on the web is a very nice feature to have. iPad suffers from the same problem. I have a Surface 2, and I love the fact that I can do 2 things at the same time makes it so much more useful. And there are now Windows tablets with full Windows OS from $100 to $2000 depending on what you want to spend and what your uses are. At this point, I fail to see any point in going with Android or iOS. For the price of the iPad, you can get the new Surface 3. Which will do everything the iPad can do, and a whole lot more. And it comes with a whole bunch more storage, and the ability to add more with a MicroSD card or even a USB 3 hard drive if you prefer. Just the simple ability to hook up a network drive and have it work in every app is a huge advantage.

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    3. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

      .and are apparently unaware of third-party Android distributions for common devices

      I'm not unaware of them. I'm completely fucking uninterested. There is a huge difference.

      I don't want some device I have to build in a kit every couple of months. I'm beyond the point where I want to endlessly fiddle with technology. It's a waste of my time, and not something I do for fun.

      I want something supported out of the box by the manufacturer, with as long of a shelf life as possible, and I don't want to enrich some corporation who feels they should give me a separate store or otherwise annoy me with non-standard stuff.

      I have no interest in tracking my own CyanogemMod version, building it from a kit, hand bombing my install.

      I like vanilla Android out of the box. I've seen the junk Samsung and others put on, and I have no interest in it.

      But what I don't want is a device which is going to make more work for me.

      Maybe the nerdy kids or the people with no lives feel some fulfillment out of endlessly fucking with their devices. But I sure as hell don't.

      But I'll go back to Apple if the price points become similar. Only I'll go with a lower end device and treat it like it will only have a short lifespan. Especially if it means I know I'll have a device which isn't a pain in the ass to use.

      For me technology is tools, not something to derive endless pleasure from tweaking it.

      So, as usual, the open source solution of "yarg, just download this stuff, build this stuff, twiddle with this stuff" is advice that nobody else is interested in. I just want something which "just works" .. my original iPad did up to a point, and my Nexus 7 has so far.

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    4. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, all you did is miss my point about how I'm uninterested in building my device from a kit.

      I don't want to buy it, root it download a new OS for it .... because I simply don't have any interest in it.

      Will this magical thing perform its own updates and provide a mechanism to keep it up to date?

      Sorry, the only "ignorance" I see here is you consistently suggesting I do exactly what I've already said I'm not interested in doing.

      Fucking open source people always think people are willing to jump through hoops to install this shit.

      What part of I don't want to fucking install a different OS on a device I've bought is beyond your comprehension here?

      By the time we're talking about rooting it, putting on a boot loader, and installing another OS ... we're well and truly into the "I don't want to play this stupid fucking game". And yet you keep saying it.

      I want a piece of consumer electronics, not some fucking make work hobby project.

      So why don't you get it through your head that my idea of fun is not having to manually be involved in maintaining my tablet at this level? Because it's a waste of my damned time.

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    5. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by peragrin · · Score: 2

      If you have to go to a third party community that may or may not have updates then your mode is broken. Xda is nice if you are modding it, etc. however if you want it to work without spending an hour doing so then it isn't the right place. And yes the last time I tried and failed to install an xda android rom my device was trashed. It was my fault I missed one of the 50 perquisite steps required.

      Hell there are days when I think it would be faster to compile android from source on the device than use those roms.

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    6. Re:No mention of iPad in the summary? by raftpeople · · Score: 2

      Look, I know a guy who's brother has a pretty close friend that really knows the ins and outs of this stuff, I swear he could get you setup in just a matter of hours...all you need to do is probably mail your device to him (I would include insurance just in case), mention my name (well probably my brother's name, he doesn't really know who I am), then boom! he'll get your device setup.

      I would probably allow for a couple weeks because this guy is so good he's getting lots of requests like this (I may have mentioned something on facebook), but once you drop my brother's name, your device should pop to the top of his list. Also, you'll want to include a prepaid return label, you know, so he doesn't have to foot the bill the get you setup.

  3. RIP by barlevg · · Score: 2

    I own a first gen Nexus 7. IMO, it's the ideal size for a personal video-watching device--not large enough to be cumbersome but with a big enough screen to make TV show watching thoroughly enjoyable. It's also ideal for reading articles and great at viewing "full web" (non-mobile) pages. The price (under $200) was the main selling point to me, and I really did feel like it was amazing bang for the buck (especially compared to my wife's similarly-priced Kindle Fire).

    Lollipop rendered my N7 basically unusable (would randomly shut itself off--mine, luckily, wasn't one of those whose device got caught in the infinite reboot cycle), but Thank God there's Cyanogenmod, where my N7 is a big sluggish but still perfectly functional. The sluggishness would probably have been enough to make me consider buying a replacement, and I'm sad that there isn't one (I will never buy another Samsung mobile device, and I hate the Kindle Fire series).

    Ah, well. I'm used to being part of an unpopular and unprofitable niche market--I'm still waiting for someone (anyone) to release a new full QWERTY keyboard phone.

    1. Re:RIP by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      I don't think the 7" Android tablet was unprofitable or niche - I think both the first-gen and next-gen Nexus 7s did very well.

      Unfortunately the first-gen one was crippled by Tegra3.

      I'm really hoping a replacement comes along this summer, because a 9" 4:3 tablet is something I have zero interest in.

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  4. Older than you might think by johnw · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Nexus 7 was first released back in 2013

    Which is why the first ones are known as Nexus 7 (2012)

  5. Short-sighted post by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How did this make the front page? I think the OP neglected to realize that Google I/O is just around the corner. Devices are discontinued every year right before I/O (after months of steep discounts to clear stock) to make way for the new device(s) that are about to be announced.

  6. Luck of the draw by barlevg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My 2012 N7 is still going strong (if a bit sluggish under Cyanogenmod 11). And I've heard from a few iPad owners who've had their devices die within months. Consumer electronics is a crapshoot--sometimes your device is essentially immortal (got a 2005 Dell Inspiron that's still doing great), sometimes it dies well before its time. I'd love to see aggregated statistics for median longevity for various tablets from various manufacturers. Would guess that the N7 wouldn't top the list, but would also guess it wouldn't be on the bottom either.

  7. Re:What 4 to 5 inch Android tablet? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Or should people just buy an entry-level Android phone and use it without a SIM?

    Obviously. It has the additional feature of being able to make 911 calls. That ought to be handy for joggers, since they seem to be the ones who find all the bodies.

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  8. They had to discontinue it by erice · · Score: 4, Funny

    to free up the name name for the inevitable 7" smart phone.

  9. Re:Good bye ( and not good buy) by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I realized that my 2009 ipad2 was still being used daily (albeit with lack of updates not as secure and running slowly) I realized that you can't beat apple hardware longevity.

    Your "2009" iPad 2 was released in March 2011, so it's not quite as old as you think. ;)

  10. Nexus 5 by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 2

    I didn't realize that they discontinued the Nexus 5. I would buy another in a heartbeat. I don't see any other phone on the market that I would rather have. Nexus? Check. Hi-res screen? Check. Not a phablet? Check. The Nexus 6 is just a bit too big for me. Hopefully they are just making room for the new versions. The Nexus 5 & Nexus 10 rank as two of my best tech purchases this decade.

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  11. And who's fault is that? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    The person who took the decision to terminate the Nexus 7 series is called Rick Deckard.

    1. Re:And who's fault is that? by koan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like a replicant...

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    2. Re:And who's fault is that? by skaralic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too bad he won't live... but then again, who does?

  12. Nexus 7 (2013) Best All Around Tablet Ever(so far) by nevermore94 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that many will disagree with me, but I still think that the Nexus 7 (2013) was the best all around tablet ever made. I have owned 5 tablets (3 different 7", 2 different 10") and my Nexus 7 (2013) is the only one that I still use on a daily basis and I would recommend it to anyone to buy (if they still can). I just bought my mom one last month. It has been the perfect size for me, just small enough that I can easily throw it in a jacket pocket or palm it while walking down the hall to a meeting, and big enough that I can show a coworker some information on the screen during the meeting or a watch a movie on a plane. The price/performance ratio has been unmatched by any other tablet that I have ever encountered. Nice wide full HD high resolution screen and stereo speakers for movies, 2GB of RAM, plenty fast processor, and no unnecessary bloated custom software. My only complaint ever has been the lack of a MicroSD slot that 3 of my other tablets had. Due to the 4:3 resolution the Nexus 9 never interested me.
    I really hope that Google will be announcing a suitable successor at I/O this year.

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  13. Re:What 4 to 5 inch Android tablet? by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2

    Android tablets typically don't run smaller than 7 inches without being designed (and priced) for use with a cellular network. Or should people just buy an entry-level Android phone and use it without a SIM?

    ...Haven't we covered this already? Is there some downside to using a phone? You talk about it like it's a bad idea. As for the iPod Touch, it's been about 5 years since one was released that could be used without iTunes. If I didn't have a smartphone, I'd use my $20 MP3 player. Smaller+lighter than even a small touchscreen device, cheaper to replace, takes microSD for memory expansion (and thus has more space than my 1st gen iPod Touch, anyhow), and it's too small to break if dropped.

    Unless you've bought into the Apple app ecosystem, there are better options than an iPod from any angle. Music player, mini-tablet/personal media device, etc.

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