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Space Radiation May Alter Astronauts' Neurons

sciencehabit writes: NASA hopes to send the first round-trip, manned spaceflight to Mars by the 2030s. If the mission succeeds, astronauts could spend several years potentially being bombarded with cosmic rays—high-energy particles launched across space by supernovae and other galactic explosions. Now, a study in mice suggests these particles could alter the shape of neurons, impairing astronauts' memories and other cognitive abilities. In the prefrontal cortex, a brain region associated with executive function, a range of high-level cognitive tasks such as reasoning, short-term memory, and problem-solving, neurons had 30% to 40% fewer branches, called dendrites, which receive electrical input from other cells.

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  1. Some of us are safe by Jodka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Problem: Space Radiation May Alter Astronauts' Neurons.

    Solution: Tin foil hats.

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    1. Re:Some of us are safe by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Tin foil is beneath government budget levels. We must now gold plate the interior of our space ships.

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    2. Re:Some of us are safe by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      "Really short mission" technology, while it simplifies many problems quite considerably, is pretty limiting...

    3. Re:Some of us are safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Problem: Space Radiation May Alter Astronauts' Neurons.

      Solution: Tin foil hats.

      It's all part of the government conspiracy to get us to wear tin foil hats. That's why for years I have been wearing my... oh wait.

    4. Re:Some of us are safe by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 1

      I thought the space capsules were essentially wearing those already?

      Revised news headline: Astronauts leave earth the best, fittest and brightest of us; come back as space jocks.

    5. Re:Some of us are safe by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Hypothesis: Super Powers would be awesome.

      Conclusion: Hell yeah!

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    6. Re:Some of us are safe by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      They have some but not total radiation shielding. Such shielding is very heavy and thus very expensive to put into orbit.

    7. Re:Some of us are safe by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

      [I]Problem: Space Radiation May Alter Astronauts' Neurons.

      Solution: Tin foil hats.[/I]

      True for the short term, but given enough time subjected to a new environment over generations we will evolve defenses. Lead is a solution too, it doesn't have to be gold and it can be applied as an additive in paint on an interior layer of a craft that is out of contact of humans.

    8. Re:Some of us are safe by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 1

      errr...

      Hang on a sec.

      So you are saying that they have less shielding than a tin foil hat??

      If not, then you have missed my point entirely...

    9. Re:Some of us are safe by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Poor A/C, the rest of us understand; and we understand your, special needs.

    10. Re:Some of us are safe by citizenr · · Score: 1

      Russians excel at this, have you seen Putins plane?

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    11. Re:Some of us are safe by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      If anyone knew what the fuck a "whooozing sound" was, then maybe...genius.

      Stick with being an AC. Don't bother getting a id.

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  2. space stupid by magarity · · Score: 1

    reasoning, short-term memory, and problem-solving

    This is why it is FAR more realistic that engineering problems need to be explained in "stupid captain talk" instead of lengthy dissertations in techno-babble.

  3. Ren was right? by Chas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay! Say it with my (like an asthmatic chihuahua).

    SPACE!!! MADNESS!!!

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    1. Re:Ren was right? by DroolTwist · · Score: 1

      Okay! Say it with my (like an asthmatic chihuahua).

      SPACE!!! MADNESS!!!

      I read that in Gilbert Gottfried's voice. lol

    2. Re:Ren was right? by Chas · · Score: 1

      Well, either that or Steve Buscemi humping a nuke.

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  4. dig a cave by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

    in a small asteroid, live in that. Asteroid dirt should be good shielding material.

    Too farfetched? I think so too, but people were talking about capturing an asteroid and bringing into lunar (or earth) orbit and mining it...

    1. Re:dig a cave by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

      You are thinking too small... I think that is what the moon is for. Hollowed out, with equatorial particle accelerators for propulsion - it is a perfect intergalactic space ship.

    2. Re:dig a cave by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      We were supposed to have that back in 1999.

    3. Re:dig a cave by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      The big problem really is that asteroid dirt or any other shielding adds a huge amount of mass, making propulsion that much harder. Trying to move an asteroid to mars with an ion drive isn't going to get there before the astronauts die of old age, and if you're going to bring huge amounts of extra rocket fuel from earth you might as well just build a huge ship with a lot of water around the central crew area for shielding.

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    4. Re:dig a cave by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Wrong, if we do not experience these problems, or at a less obvious level since it affects everyone at the approximate same pace, it is largely due to the Earth's magnetic field which deviates a lot of cosmic rays. Beside that, you should know that cosmic rays that make their way to us can penetrate deep into concrete and Earth's crust. That's why the neutrino observatories are installed in very deep old mines. I doubt any asteroid without a magnetic field can offer a sufficient protection of any kind.

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    5. Re:dig a cave by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Granted, radiation shielding isn't particularly effective for vehicles, but it makes perfect sense for habitats. The ISS for example is basically just sitting there, we could instead maneuver a suitably large asteroid into position via the low-energy interplanetary transport network and start hollowing it out. It has a large up front cost in time and/or energy, and we'd probably want to put it in a higher orbit since its increased bulk would add air resistance(and it's unlikely to burn up on reentry if abandoned like the current tin cans), but other than that, job done.

      It can also potentially make sense as cyclic transportation - for example there's the old concept of an Earth-Mars cycler: put an asteroid in a elliptical orbit that almost touches the orbits of both Earth and Mars and build a "cruise ship" inside it. Then you never accelerate it again, aside from station-keeping: instead you use normal spacecraft to transfer your payload between the cycler and Earth when they are in conjunction, and with Mars a year or whatever later when those two come into conjunction. Of course that's a seriously long-term investment for a relatively slow transportation system, but if there's a LOT of radiation-sensitive people/cargo making the trip and not in a hurry, then perhaps it makes sense.

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  5. Duh? by allquixotic · · Score: 1

    Exposure to radiation from space is probabilistic, and there have been many more living human-hours down here on Earth than up in space. Isn't it reasonable to assume that at least a handful of people have been unlucky enough to just *happen* to get bombarded with an unusually high amount of gamma radiation, having the same thing happen to them?

    And then there are all these new-fangled manmade sources of gamma rays that we've been blowing up and/or using for electricity since the 40s...

    1. Re:Duh? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      On the other side, it seems like this should fund more research into methods to deflect the path of gamma radiation or transform its state. We know the Earth's atmosphere can do it, so why not develop our own deflection field? After all, we know where most of the gamma rays are coming from, and the rest of them would be just as random as they are here on earth. No need to "block" gamma radiation with something earth-sized; just deflect it enough that it is much less likely to hit a human, and provide a mechanism that will also render some of it non-ionizing by adjusting its moment or frequency. We know that energy can phase shift into matter and back, so why not use this knowledge to our advantage? Shift, bend, and let it shift back, pointing in a safer direction.

    2. Re: Duh? by raind2 · · Score: 1

      I think people would expect some isdies, being blasted into space and all

    3. Re:Duh? by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      You joke about gamma rays but there isn't much of difference between X rays and gamma rays from a biological perspective.

      I'd be interested in what happens to those that have received several head CT scans. One head CT scan is about 20 years of background radiation.

    4. Re:Duh? by itzly · · Score: 1

      Gamma rays aren't the most dangerous, even if they have high energy, because they don't interact easily with matter. Just as they pass through the atmosphere, they will often also pass through our bodies without causing damage.

      Dangerous space radiation is in the form of high energy protons. They interact easily with matter, so they cause more biological damage, but are also effectively shielded by our thick atmosphere. They aren't shielded very well by a thin metal hull, because a collision with thin metal would produce a narrow cone of secondary particles.

  6. We'll Know by eyenot · · Score: 1, Informative

    We'll Know, now. See, there are two astronauts who happen to be twins. And they have sent one astronaut into outer space and the other astronaut will stay here on Earth. As time passes on board the International Space Station, we will see whether NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly develops strange new neurochemistry the likes of which humanity has never before seen, or if he stays normal like his brother Mark. Time will tell whether this theory about the brains of people in space twisting and contorting in untold seemingly impossible ways holds water or not.

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    1. Re:We'll Know by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Funny

      The dissection is going to be... awkward.

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    2. Re:We'll Know by ralphsiegler · · Score: 2

      one problem, the ISS is well within the protection of the Earth's magnetosphere from cosmic ray bombardment, so alas that is not a model for interplanetary travel at all

    3. Re:We'll Know by BigFootApe · · Score: 1

      The magnetosphere deflects solar wind. It is not powerful enough to deflect cosmic radiation. Cosmic radiation in LEO is 1/2 of interplanetary radiation because of occlusion of the galactic disc by the planet itself.

  7. Don't stand in the rain by confused+one · · Score: 1

    So perhaps the astronauts shouldn't spend all their time standing naked out on the airless surface of Mars, letting the universe blast their noggins with relativistic oxygen and titanium ions (yes, I read the article). If you don't want to get wet, you have to come in out of the rain.

  8. Fantastic! by Mantrid42 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like we can expect Fantastic results!

  9. Easy solution by itzly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The solution is easy. Don't send people to Mars, send unmanned rovers. Solves a bunch of other problems too, and saves a lot of money that can be used on other cool stuff.

    1. Re:Easy solution by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Rovers are cool, but they can't compete with the excitement of a crewed mission. Apollo captivated a generation, and there's not even very much to see on the moon.

    2. Re:Easy solution by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Don't send people to Mars, send unmanned rovers. Solves a bunch of other problems too, and saves a lot of money that can be used on other cool stuff.

      But, as always, you get what you pay for.

    3. Re:Easy solution by quenda · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apollo captivated a generation,

      Not for long. TV ratings dropped fast after the first landing. Even blowing up Apollo 13's service module was not enough to save the program from early cancellation.

  10. That explains Doom 3... by MenThal · · Score: 1

    Brain goes back to basics, semi zombies go nuts.

    Also, Quake 4. Implants to offset the damage hooked up to central computer creates collective hive mind.

    Suggest they put up a live feed for the inevitable madness to recoup some of the cost of the planned manned flights to Mars.

  11. Say whaat by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Radiation affects the brain? who would have thunk it!

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  12. Sheilds up by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    I thought that if we were going anywhere in the Solar system (which I really hope I can see in my lifetime but I doubt it) that it would be wrapped in a lot of mass. For example I thought ice first because it's water and we would be using it. So if we carry a-lot of water that is what we would be using as shielding. Either that or rocks we can gather up *in* space (maybe a lunar space elevator [a moonstalk iirc?]).

    However for our first small ship and given that cosmic radiation may be a lot more energetic than I think and, given that it adds mass to the space craft then why not just go *inside* a big water tank, which would also be your water supply? At first using separate launches with water tanks, however later, maybe a small ice asteroid we capture with a robot and melt - or even carve into, could be a water supply.

    Speaking about capturing asteroids maybe we can build a fast, nuclear powered robot ship to explore the asteroid belt remotely and leave robotic mission payloads on large asteroids whilst identifying resources. Maybe when it has built up enough speed we can send it out to the Oort cloud for a look around. I know it sounds science fiction but it is not too far outside our technological capabilities, and, if the world pooled resources to achieve it, something that might bring nations together for a common goal. I know, probably just a fantasy, but I am a geek.

    Besides, all children have to start moving out of home sometime.

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  13. Metamaterial needed by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    I wonder if anyone is addressing this problem by researching how to deflect the space radiation by designing meta-materials, with a negative refraction index, that would function at the specific energies and wavelengths that would cause damage to neurons. This might take decades, but seems like one possible solution. If you can't block the radiation, move it around you.

  14. Citation Needed by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

    A dollar spent on an unmanned mission goes much further than a dollar spent on manned missions.

    [[Citation needed]]