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Microsoft Releases PowerShell DSC For Linux
jones_supa writes: Microsoft is announcing that PowerShell Desired State Configuration (DSC) for Linux is available for download in form of RPM and DEB packages. DSC is a new management platform that provides a set of PowerShell extensions that you can use to declaratively specify how you want your software environment to be configured. You can now use the DSC platform to manage the configuration of both Windows and Linux workloads with the PowerShell interface. Microsoft says that bringing DSC to Linux is another step in the company's "broader commitment to common management of heterogeneous assets in your datacenter or the public cloud." Adds reader benjymouse: DSC is in the same space as Chef and Puppet (and others); but unlike those, Microsofts attempts to build a platform/infrastructure based on industry standards like OMI to allow DSC to configure and control both Windows, Linux and other OSes as well as network equipment like switches, etc.
PowerShell is a modern shell.
Benefits: .NET Framework
- Object oriented, so no awkward parsing of strings. Every item is automatically delivered in its own capsule.
- Integration with other Windows subsystems and the
- Comes with a mini IDE called PowerShell ISE for developing scripts
- Excellent documentation with lots of examples (the Get-Help command)
- Intuitive, easy to remember command names
Im of the opinion that it takes all of about 8 hours to learn to do the majority of things you would want to do in powershell (partly because thats about how long it took me). You just have to take some time to sit down and learn it, and then make an effort to use it instead of GUI administration tools. It is far, far superior to old windows command prompt and vbs,
I think the same can be said about any *nix shell. Having used powershell a few times, it really just feels like a kludged attempt to bring CMD.exe to something closer to bash.... 20 years later. Now the question becomes just because you can use it, does it mean you should? Last I checked, Windows still has a lot of protections from even the simplest modifications. I much prefer being able to see /etc/fstab than working with some nebulous class with functions that barely make sense.
The nix shells I have used are very powerful, but also very, very painful to learn. Learning sed / awk syntax could easily fill 4 of those 8 hours I mentioned; and thats not even getting into how each and every tool has its own unique idea of how to do syntax. What does a -z switch specify? I dont know, probably fire up that man page and dig through it. What about -h? Is that help, or human readable?
it really just feels like a kludged attempt to bring CMD.exe to something closer to bash.
Theyre not even remotely close. They both operate on the idea that data should be passable between consecutive commands via a pipeline, but bash makes no attempt to deal with different types of data nor any good way to determine what data is incoming. Powershell solves this by being object oriented, and letting you easily determine the type of data coming in, export it to XML, and reimport it at a later session if desired.
As an example-- if you have an error in bash, whats the stack trace look like? Do you have a good way of capturing it? In powershell you can reference the $error[0] variable, and pull up any piece of info you might need to troubleshoot, or even just export the whole thing by "$error | export-cliXML -file C:\somefile.xml" if you're running a nightly job; any issues can later be imported into a new session to diagnose.
Now the question becomes just because you can use it, does it mean you should?
Yes. If you deal with IT infrastructure at all, you would be absolutely crazy not to learn it; its explicitly supported (with native commands) by:
* ALL of the major virtual infrastructure providers (VMWare, HyperV, Xen
* All versions of windows
* A great many storage providers (EMC, NetApp, probably others)
* A number of network infrastructure providers
* IIS, and Exchange -- like it or not these are huge players
* And anything else you want to add support for yourself-- I note that Hadoop for example has community support for powershell
By support, I dont mean in the sense that you could use bash to launch SSH to manage these things. I mean in the sense that VMWare allows you to run the following native powershell commands:
Connect-VIServer myVMCluster
Get-VM | Where-object {$_.powerState -eq "PoweredOn"} | foreach { stop-VM $_}
And all of your VMs will be shut off. Trying to do something like that in bash is doable, it just requires screwing around with scripted SSH access to the VMhosts which is painful, for anyone who has done it.
I much prefer being able to see /etc/fstab than working with some nebulous class with functions that barely make sense.
This is a criticism of object-oriented languages, not powershell. You might as well rail against .Net, or Java, or C++.
I've used Powershell several times to write more complex scripts that I would normally have installed Perl on a Win64 system to handle but didn't want to in those particular cases. It worked pretty well once I got all the permission issues worked out, and got kind of familiar with the syntax.
It was still extremely painful to use. The bloody verbosity of the platform (it really is a platform - not a language) was the worst part. It seems to have been engineered straight out of the com-sci-professor-that's-never-had-to-build-anything's handbook. There is no compromise for anything, few shortcuts. The functions were not sensible in my opinion, as some other posters have mentioned, they would use terms that simply had more syllables than obvious synonyms that are normally used for such things. An IDE was necessary so you could scroll through the list of available functions to find the one you were looking for as they were generally not that obvious. Once you get used to them, sure, it's not as bad, but it's still like having an ankle hobbled compared to both knees.
I would say it's fantastic compared to your standard batch script. If that's all you've ever known, I seriously pity you.
I would also say it needs to compromise a great deal to be reasonably useful to people building system scripts, especially coming from unix environments where we've had such tools for $AGES, and have always been asking why our Windows brethren would put up with such silly useless systems.
I would say that the above you say would be a nightmare in bash - it would be much more trivial in perl, which is what I commonly use for such things. A quick for loop to rename files? Definitely bash. Holy cow is that a pain in Powershell.
Lastly, I would say: man pages. Sure, MSDN, but not when you don't have network access, or were you cool with installing 1.7gb more files (seriously??) to support it? Space is cheap until you are running out, at which point it's immediately more expensive. It's just a no-brainer.
Overall, I think Microsoft is incredibly late to this game, over-engineered something as is the norm, and is using marketing tactics to heighten its adoption rather than working on its usefulness. If they could drop in better in-line documentation especially at the command-line (GUIs are great when you have plenty of monitor space and are actually using a UI instead of the console, when you really need to be confident in what that switch is about to do to your last snapshot), make a lot of aliases for the functions (not just the objects) they've developed for the various classes available, and make many of the more commonly used functions statically available directly in the shell instead of buried deep down in some class infrastructure, I for one would be tossing all of my Windows Perl installs (sorry ActiveState, but they're really just band-aids!).
The bloody verbosity of the platform (it really is a platform - not a language) was the worst part
A few things-- the language has a large number of shortcuts, like "fl" instead of "format-list" or "?" instead of "where-object" or "%" instead of "foreach". But the verbosity of it is not really a bad thing, as it makes the resulting code at least somewhat self-documenting; its crystal clear what each command will do most of the time.
An IDE was necessary so you could scroll through the list of available functions to find the one you were looking for as they were generally not that obvious
This is what tab-completion or get-member or even "get-help [command] -examples" is for.
A quick for loop to rename files? Definitely bash. Holy cow is that a pain in Powershell.
$date = get-date -format yyyyMMdd
get-childitem -filter *.txt | foreach {rename-item $_.fullname "$date_$($_.name)"}
Really not that painful.
You mention usefulness- the usefulness as you said is that its a platform supported by an incredible number of vendors. Just about every piece of infrastructure I've come across has vendor-provided powershell integration; the ability to take output from a get-VM command and pass it into a storage provisioning command makes a number of tasks incredibly easy.
Lastly, I would say: man pages.
get-help is your friend, and is far superior to man with the -detailed or -examples switches. Not sure where you're getting the "1.7GB", but this page indicates that the size is more like 9KB.